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UPDATE: Campaign for Liberty needs 153,636 precinct leaders to meet its goal

The average number of registered voters per precinct is 1,100 nationwide. (All of these numbers, including the numbers below are from 2008). As we get more on the local level, I used my area as an example so you can get an idea of the numbers.
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NATIONALLY: 169,000,000 registered voters total in U.S.
means approximately 153,636 precinct leaders needed in U.S. total.

We currently have .9% of all precinct leaders needed nationally. (1521 precinct leaders total at C4L)
But if we add up all the members, accounts and precinct leaders (126,314 total) we COULD be at 82% of our goal!
Ron Paul got 1.2 million votes nationally.
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WASHINGTON STATE: 3,515,393 registered voters (approx. 512 registered voters per precinct)
6,862 precincts total in Washington state, 6,862 precinct leaders needed in Washington state.

We currently have 1% of all precinct leaders needed in Washington state. (96 precinct leaders)
But if we add up all the members, accounts and precinct leaders (4043 total) we could have 58% of our goal.
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CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 1:
359 precincts, unknown number of registered voters.

We currently have 3% of all needed precinct leaders (12 total). We could have 21% (77 members and precinct leaders).
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SNOHOMISH COUNTY: 372,636 registered voters
There are 714 precincts in Snohomish county. (521 registered voters per precinct)

We currently have 1% of all precinct leaders needed in Snohomish county (8 precinct leaders). But if we add up all the members and precinct leaders (accounts aren't listed) we could reach 14% of our goal (103 total).
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In conclusion, it might be better for us to concentrate on contacting the members and accounts that are already signed up on Campaign for Liberty and encourage THEM to become precinct leaders first. I think it would more quickly and efficiently win over our precincts for liberty.

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I agree with you

The problem in our county is the state coordinator won't write a phone script, send an email or even try to contact any of the thousands of people who contributed to Ron Paul's campaign. We've been after him for weeks, but he won't do anything with the huge list of people he has. It's really disheartening to know that the people in charge on a state level could give a flying fig about moving ahead and asking people for help.

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They are trying to get the

They are trying to get the list of donors in my county too. I know that they are going to release the donor lists to all precinct leaders on C4L as soon as they finish making the step for it. But like you, I'm not one to wait so I just got the list of registered voters in my precinct from the elections office and will be going around my precinct speaking to each one of them. I'm likely to get more doors slammed in my face but at least it's something. I asked why it is taking so long for them to put out the steps and they said that they decided to have one person programming all of it so that there wouldn't be as many screw ups. Also, every time I come up with an idea for them they always tell me that that is already on their to do list.
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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

C4L Failures

I love Ron Paul, but the Campaign for Liberty is being run by the same inept people who couldn't devise a winning campaign strategy with 20 million dollars of our hard earned money. Here in Florida, our state C4L director recently endorsed neoconservative Jim Greer for chairman of the Republican Party of Florida. Greer is the same man who was directing GOP (Giant Old Prostates) efforts against Ron Paul supporters.

Rather than admonish our state director for his unethical sellout, C4L executives told those of us who were unhappy with the endorsement to 'do something productive'.

Again, I love Ron Paul, but I'm done with the C4L.

Godwhacker

Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. Grow and change it from within as opposed to watch and complain from the outside. Does a few bad apples ruin the entire campaign? I think not. Remember we are all Brothers and Sisters in Arms for Liberty and the common good for the Republic that is breaking down. We must stick together and grow into a stronger national organization.

E Pluribus Unum

E Pluribus Unum

stop waiting for somebody to

stop waiting for somebody to tell you what to do ... and do something on your own ... alot of the people who didnt work are no longer in the campaign ... they arent there to do things for us ... they are there to direct us ... but they won't push .. it's ultimately your choice

All paper money eventually returns to its real intrinsic value, zero. - Voltaire

that's a lot of money...

153,636 X 35.00 is $5,377,260.00 I do agree with the other poster about paying to serve. You might have more success if you leave it to optional contribution!
I want to be a precinct leader and will probably pay to do so, but I don't deny having sat around here waiting for someone else in my area to take the lead because of the fee!

!!!Truth is treason in the EMPIRE OF LIES!!!

" Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of they day; but a series of oppresssions...pursued unalterably, through every change of ministers, too plainly proove delibrate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery..."
Tho

I think that's a lot of cash

I think that's a lot of cash too but I don't know how much their operating costs are. I heard somewhere that they are taking the membership dues to buy the state voter lists but I have only heard that as a rumor.
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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

Campaign for Liberty

is now the hub of the movement. Solid, factual information and direction regarding the movement without the fluff and with pure professionalism. It (IMHO) is the face of the movement from a tactical grassroots level and an excellent platform to compete for inclusion into the mainstram political landscape.

Everyone I had dealth with in that organization have their hearts in the right place and are aligned with the goals of liberty and the movement that we have all decided to commit to.

They are organizing a frontal PR attack at C-PAC and it appears they are doing it first rate for such a new organization.

Shannon, is it mandatory to accomplish ALL the requirements for the precinct leader position?

E Pluribus Unum
I can also be contacted through C4L website via epluribusunum user name

E Pluribus Unum

Thank you!

It is refreshing to get your perspective! As far as the precinct leader requirements, I was really hesitant when I first saw them. Nobody is keeping track of if you actually complete each one. For example, you don't report to anyone and log in your 5 hours a month. I think it is more of a guideline for yourself. I didn't think I was going to be able to put in 5 hours and recruit anyone to be a precinct leader but most of the time I put in much more than 5 hours and I am sure I have recruited more than 1 precinct leader by now. I don't keep track of it but lots of people, after getting more information about the position from me have said they were going to sign up. I wouldn't sweat the requirements.
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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

What about the other Congressional districts in Washington?

It must be more than 2 districts I'm sure.

You gotta know when to hold 'em...

Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

Oh yes, there are 9 but I

Oh yes, there are 9 but I was just using my area as an example. I could break it down by every congressional district and every county but I don't know if anybody would find it to be of any use or not. I will show this to my county meetup and see the response. If people find it useful I think I might include the other areas and give them to the meetups and C4L people.
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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

I'm in the 5th Congressional district and was curious about my

precinct. Perhaps we should discuss this in email?

You gotta know when to hold 'em...

Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

ShannonOBrien, With all

ShannonOBrien,

With all due respect, the c4l is now a club for those with money. It is ran by folks who clearly don't have faith in the grass roots that gave it life in the first place. I was a precinct leader. It took up my time and money, so much so, that my family suffered for it. I (and many others) would do so agian if there were not a fee involved. I will not pay to serve. (just how much $ is going into the pockets of the leadership in the form of saleries?)
They should have kept the leaders they had, at least untill a 'paying' one could be found. They should have kept the faith in their fellowship and not made money an requirement. Can anyone say "4 million in a day"?

Nothing is going to change untill we have 100% transparency in elections. I think it is very possible R.P. won as I have yet to meet anyone who voted for Obie. I, and many others, suggested doing a petition drive the day of the election by placing one or more people at each voting location. We were told it was a "great" idea, but, it was not done and to the best of my knowledge is not being planned for.

c4l is a "good idea gone bad"

You have no evidence except rumor to back that up

I am a precinct leader currently. I have not experienced any of the problems you state. How exactly is it that you spent tons of money on C4L and yet you left because you couldn't afford $35? The question of how much the people at the top are making has already been answered on ronpaulforums several times. They are not making nearly any money. I suggest that you take any rumors you hear with a grain of salt. If they can't be backed up by anyone credible, they should be regarded as such. If you are genuinely concerned about this, you should contact the actual source? You can get their contact information at the C4L website. They will take a while to respond because they get lots of emails every day but you will get a response back. People like to complain that it is either too "top down" or too grassroots and disorganized. You say that it's too top down and then when you say you have a grassroots idea, you expected them to command everyone. Well which is it? What evidence do you have that makes you so sure? I have only seen evidence against it. The truth is that C4L is the best tool we have. Show me another website that has this many RP supporters all in one spot, a social networking site and tools for you to use to win over your precinct? None. So instead of complaining that it's not perfectly to your liking, why don't you find me something better?
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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

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"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

Really?

It's a one time $35 fee. The knowledge you've already received from the people behind the campaign are worth it. The knowledge you receive after in regards to running a campaign make it a complete bargain.

"The knowledge you receive

"The knowledge you receive after in regards to running a campaign..."

I respect your opinion.

Where can I find a copy of their finnancial records? Including salaries?
Following the money always tells the real story.