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9/11- WTC1 Acceleration/Resistance Analysis

The roofline of WTC1 (The North Tower) begins dropping with sudden onset and accelerates uniformly downward at about 64% of the acceleration of gravity (g) until it disappears into the dust. This means it is meeting resistance equal to about 36% of its weight. The implication of this, however, is that the force it is exerting on the lower section of the building is also only 36% of the weight of the falling section. This is much less than the force it would exert if it were at rest. The acceleration data thus prove that the falling top section of the building cannot be responsible for the destruction of the lower section of the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG2y50Wyys4&eurl=http://911bl...

http://zkt.blackfish.org.uk/119/Simple_CD_Models_WTC1.pdf




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sept112001 hurricane erin

google the title of this reply and read the report of dr judy wood...
then you will begin to understand the monster that was unleashed on that day... the squibbs and explosions were a smokescreen of the 'unwarranted power' now in use by the nwo [scum]

affirmation: President Paul 2008

connect some dots

What's your story ?

Link correction: www.youtube.com/watch ?v=9SSS0DDqfm0

"there's a 13 second video clip (not network video) of the
the first tower that shows the intialization of the top section falling
at an angle, it's inexplicable halt, then its descent straight down
through the path of most resistance. We see levitation effects of
steel and aluminum, especially on the right side next to the other
tower where heavy material is being cavitated skywards; we see
the formation of organized plasma structures within magnetized fields;
we see a plasma torus form over the tipped section of the tower and
instantly a charged sheath toroidal vortex forms below the torus
ring and like a mighty tornado turns the steel behmoth to dust in just
a few rotations; meanwhile the main force of the electrostatic discharge
coupled with longitudinal RF transverse oscillatory waves from the
AT&T building quickly dissociate the molecular bonds of the center
section of the tower; all the while on the right side we see building
material caught in a magnetohydrodynamic instability just floating
around while other pieces of material ascend upward in the rotating
magnetic field; To cap it all off, one of the biggest smokin guns of
the day appears right before your eyes! A short 20 ft section of
aluminum cladding gets snapped flung toward the rotating magnetic
vortex (currently shredding the tipped section) and when it makes
contact with the electromagnetic field it instantly starts dissociating
leaving a nice telltale cloud of white smoke to mark its journey
across part of the magnetic force field before it bounces off."

Here's the link to the video being referenced:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSS0DDqfm0

Why don't you make fun of

Why don't you make fun of her daughter's massacre... Where is your dignity?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3438968102444045267

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

Wow, now I finally get it.

Magnetic Vortex, yes! I'm much more inclined to believe this than that garbage the official story tellers state.

Your science is already better than the gubments.

Aku Soku Zan

Aku Soku Zan

This is pointless...

it isn't funny, nor is it constructive.

To All you 9/11 pro and con!!!

This is the 9/11 truth that you both fail to address and shame on you for your endless divisive bickering!!! The "truth " will come about... but it may take years..in the meantime..please agree on this atrocity in the name of 9/11 retribution...raise the bar of discussion!!!

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Since Americans' narcissism is so all-encompassing, and because the superior value of American lives and goals as compared to those of all other peoples is regarded as an axiom never to be questioned, let's put these horrors in terms that Americans might understand. Let's make it about you.

For ease of computation, we'll use approximate figures. Assume the U.S.'s war crimes have resulted in one million deaths. That is roughly 1/26 of the total Iraqi population. An equivalent number of American deaths would be 11.5 million people. 3,000 Americans were murdered on 9/11. In terms of casualties, 11.5 million deaths represent 3,800 9/11s -- or a 9/11 every day for ten and a half years.

Let me repeat that: a 9/11 every day for ten and a half years.

Perhaps you think these casualty figures are highly inflated. Fine. Cut them in half. That's a 9/11 every day for a little over five years.

Every day.
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2007/09/lets-make-it-ab...

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/81710#comment-887793

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Feel better, you sweet talker? 8)

For the record. I have discussed MANY other aspects of the events of 9/11.
I have also often said that the "debate", many times, takes place with tunnel vision.
If one can understand the Hegelian dialectic (problem, reaction, solution ) then they can see the agenda that has unfolded because of 9/11.
There is no "ego" here. I would LOVE to be wrong. I would LOVE to be wrong about all of this. I would love to wake up and this just be a bad dream.
I'm not sure why all the anger for no response to your post. I have read it a couple of times , and it has merit.
I'm not sure what the point of attacking EVERYONE is. Anyway, I hope you got it off of your chest. If not, let's have some dialogue, if that's what you want.

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The 2nd amendment.
The ORIGINAL Homeland Security

Jefferson, when Liberty Belle's first comment was posted,

none of the regulars to these 9/11 discussions were logged in. That is why there was no response.

I have replied and I agree that this was one of the reasons for

Create a unified foreign threat and the people will rally around the state and willingly give up their liberty.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

Yeah...just as I thought...none of you

want to take it to a higher level and discuss what CAN be proven ...the Results!!!

Oh ,nevermind...continue the circle jerk of neverending divisive theories...don't look at the RESULTS of 9/11 ..which is something both of you need to face and come to a higher level of discourse and agreement.....until such time...years from now that 9/1I will be digestable and provable to main stream America...please focus on what surely any sane thinking critically thinking human can see and that is the results... .

"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Liberty Belle, you are right to bring up the results of 9/11.

While some take it more seriously than others, the results of 9/11 is EXACTLY why some of the people who engage in these discussions fight so hard regarding the 9/11 topic.

While I am not as active in these topics as the some of the "regulars", I understand that what has taken place as a result of 9/11 has been... loss of lives and liberties.

Liberties- They were threatened by such things as the Patriot Act and airport security tactics...they continue to be threatened by people like Rahm Emanuel who wish for people's right to bear arms to be attached to phoney-baloney terrorist watch lists, or no fly lists.

Loss of life- Obviously there were lives lost on 9/11. Then wars ensued.

Loss of life continues... be it in the form of massive casualties as a result of falling bombs in Iraq, or be it in the form of suicides of soldiers, in the battle... or even being called back to battle, who just can't take it anymore.

There are people in this thread who have suffered loss of people special to them because of 9/11, whether on that day in the attack, or later as everything takes its toll.

I can think of three people in this thread right off the top of my head who have suffered these losses. They are not all even on the same side of the fence as to whether it was an inside job or not.

I'm sure they have different reasons for taking the stance they do. But both sides apparently seem to agree that it is something that needs to be discussed and explored, even if it does get a little out of hand at times.

Some feel that it is precisely because of the results of 9/11 that the cause be determined... and exposed if found to be sinister, as it will only happen again if it is not exposed...

When I say "it" will only happen again, by "it", not only do I mean an attack, a false flag operation, but I mean the resulting things, also.

More loss of life...more loss of liberty.

Healthy debate and discussion is good and even necessary to insure we do not stay on this destructive path and that we keep our eyes open.

Sometimes debate and discussion turns into bickering and personal attacks as tempers flare and we lose sight of the purpose.

Thank you Liberty Belle for making us take pause to at least remember WHY the fight regarding 9/11 is important.

To the people in this thread who have lost someone special because of 9/11, whether on that day or later, and even recently, please know that my heart goes out to you.

May God have mercy and bring the suffering and misery to an end soon.

Like I have said numerous times

9/11 led to two wars and associated mass death.

Of course it is a topic that needs to be flushed out rationally and totally.

That has not happened yet.
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www.ponderthis.net

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Kemp..for you dear

continue to raise the bar...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp1fLW-DS8Q

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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

I have only one thing to say about Popular Mechanics

Chertoff's cousin wrote the Popular Mechanics debunk article.

Chertoff? You gonna quote satan on this website?

Do you know who Chertoff is?

You absolutely HAVE to be kidding me.

You are going to tell me that you hang at the Daily Paul AND you are going to quote Chertoff?

Go get a job at Fox News and make a living scaring the sh%$ out of decent people will ya? We're all set here.

Unify

This is all you need to see -- Part 2 is where it happens

Davin Coburn from Popular Mechanics Answers 9/11 Questions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLx5GATh_z0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb49MfDrwOo&feature=related

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

That's hilarious...

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

Aha...the demonization of truthers continues!

My plan is falling into place! Mwoo ha ha!

Those building all fell down from waste basket fires in the middle floors!

Those box cutter guys were unbelievable weren't they?

An all those howibel liddle twuthers are rambling about nuttin!

The government always tells the truth!

Ruppert Murdoch is AOK. I mean look at the guy! What a champ!

I love Rudy! He is cute in women's clothing!

The Busch administration is focused on our best interests!

WTC 7's 47 core columns failed in unison from office supply fires.

Dick Cheney is just trying to make America a better country!

6000 gallons of kerosene can turn 80,000 tons of concrete into powder and blow it to New Jersey because George Bush says so.

Unify

Wrong

Yet another lie perpetuated by truthers. Chertoff never even met this guy and no relation was ever proven.

Register as Republican and Vote for Ron Paul

On an unrelated topic

Please prove the "official" story.

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My liberty-minded home base of thought:

www.ponderthis.net

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Freedom - Peace - Prosperity

The official story of Chertoff?

Are you asking me to prove the official story of Chertoff? Gee I didn't know everything was so official. Anyway, read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Chertoff#Disputed_fami...

Register as Republican and Vote for Ron Paul

Wik?

Wik is a propaganda organ what else you got?

Unify

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what is You Tube?

CHA-CHING!

Is that some kind of joke?

Wikipedia is the ultimate libertarian expression of knowledge. Jimmy Wales, the guy who invented it, is an Objectivist. You'll notice everything there is referenced to an original source - are you starting to get it now?

Register as Republican and Vote for Ron Paul

Take an unbiased look and

Take an unbiased look and you will see that contents of the fire is a critical piece of evidence. There aren't enough contents nor the right type of materials to sustain the temperatures needed to cause the steel to weaken much less melt.

Think about it for second... These contents are spread around and at a high temperature contents burn quickly and then the fires would move to consume other other fuel in different areas. When that occurs the consumed area would cool.

The 1975
World Trade Center Fire
"So, this was a very serious fire which spread over some 65 per cent of the eleventh floor (the core plus half the office area) in the very same building that supposedly "collapsed" on 9/11 due to a similar, or lesser, fire. This fire also spread to a number of other floors. And although it lasted over 3 hours, it caused no serious structural damage and trusses survived the fires without replacement and supported the building for many, many more years after the fires were put out.

It should be emphasized that the North Tower suffered no serious structural damage from this fire. In particular, no trusses needed to be replaced. "
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc_1975_fire.html

Dr. Shyam Sunder, Lead Investigator: "The jet fuel probably burned out in less than 10 minutes. And what did burn over the next hour, or hour and a half, was much of the contents of the buildings."

So if the contents were insufficient and the kerosene burnt off in about 10 minutes what did cause structural damage to the buildings?

This is one of those facts that is glaring about the official theory being false... one of many.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

"what did cause structural damage to the buildings?"

I'm going to take a wild stab at it...

Jetliner impact?

CHA-CHING!

Sorry but even the lead investigators said that the planes and

kerosene would not have caused a collapse.

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

Well when you put it that way it all makes sense!

I will now take your word and use it as proof of conspiracy.

CHA-CHING!

Give your sarcasm to her too

Give your sarcasm to her too OK!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3438968102444045267

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."