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Kucinich: We Should Be Going From Golden Parachutes To Golden Handcuffs!



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Kucinich is off base about Citifield

His opposition to Citibank sponsoring Citifield and putting their name up there is so off base I don't know where to begin. This is the danger of the government manipulating the free markets - suddenly we have idiots like Kucinich telling Citibank not to advertise! Advertising is good. Advertising is also guaranteed under free speech. It seems like people like Kucinich are just diverting the spotlight away from the real problem (Congress and the Senate i.e. government) and onto private corporations.

Register as Republican and Vote for Ron Paul

Why would you punish the

Why would you punish the people that should have NEVER received the money in the first place?

The people that should be in Golden handcuffs are the Congressman & Senators that voted for that POS.

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I always have my waders on when watching any msm.

Though I appreciate any time given on msm to those who are Ron Paul type thinkers. However, most and a half of those who interview knew very little about what is happpening now verses six months or a year previous if not for Ron Paul and a few others talking of the calamity that is now upon us.
Ron Paul and those very few likeminded Ron Pauler types were laughed at , mocked, blacked out, etc.etc by the msm and now like the mouth in this video, they try and make you think they know what exactly is going on. And most of the time they remain clueless.

Fox Business never "mocked" or "blacked out" Ron Paul.

Fox Business has been great to Dr. Paul, including this interviewer David Asman. He's been bringing Dr. Paul on as far back as October of 2007 for really good interviews: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GLdMHUcpW-g

They brought Alan Greenspan the very first day Fox Business went on the air, and Asman pushed him on the idea of eliminating the Fed. http://youtube.com/watch?v=caIgP3Mnb6g

This interviewer David Asman is anti-Fed, pro-free market, and had been before he met Dr. Paul.

These attacks on the "MSM" in regard to Dr. Paul are getting really ridiculous. They don't hold up to scrutiny if you go back and examine the evidence. There have been isolated cases where some reporter might have said something negative about Ron Paul, but you can't reasonably make a blanket statement about the "MSM" because the exceptions to the "mock" and "black out" claims are so numerous. I guarantee there are more good interviews with Dr. Paul than bad ones, going all the way back to Paul's announcement to run for president.

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

These interviews

that are positive are in the minority. Before he was a threat, he received minimal air time. The air time he did receive was primarily to make him look like a buffoon. If that were not the case, if he received the positive air time that Obama or McCain got, he would be our president. Now that Ron Paul is not a threat, he is being respected and listened to.
Where have you been the last year, under some rock? Why don't you stop already? Do you work for Fox or what? You keep putting in your plugs for them but, excuse me, most of us were there and we saw it and lived it. He would be our president if he got the respect he well deserved. We would not be discussing this.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

Your mistake is assuming the media saw him as a threat.

That's nothing but conspiracy theory. What's your evidence for that? Why would anyone polling in single digits be considered a threat to anyone? And how does advocating liberty threaten someone like Fox?

And if Paul received the same air time as Obama or Mccain, he would definitely not be president. Dr. Paul's views are too radical for the public as a whole to elect him. The chances of America electing a president that is for abolishing the minimum wage, abolition of antitrust laws, abolishing the SEC, abolishing the FDA, legalizing drugs, elimination of all preemptive regulations on business, eliminating the Federal Reserve, phasing out Social Security, abolishing the CIA and the FBI, advocating that the government abandon all energy policy, advocating the government exercise zero control over the economy, opposing the Civil Rights Act and supporting legalizing of racial discrimination in the private sector, and so on, are extremely small. Dr. Paul is a libertarian. The great bulk of Americans do not agree with that philosophy, unfotunately. At least half, and probably most Americans prefer big government.

I've seen pretty much every interview with Dr. Paul, and most interviews with him are just fine and have been from the start.

And no I don't work for Fox. And why shouldnt I defend Fox? They've given the public more exposure to him and his ideas than any other network, whether you want to admit it or not.

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

Conspiracy Theory?

I don't think so. If anyone gave him the opportunity to explain his plans and reasoning, they would understand him. They would know what he wanted to do and what he could do and would do would be different. His goals for a perfect world could not be realized as just being the president and could not be realized in the mess we are in. Every time he tried to explain himself he was interrupted and cut off.

I don't really have to argue my point. You WERE NOT THERE so what do you know? You know absolutely nothing except that you are not a true Ron Paul supporter or you would believe he could have been president. Nuf said.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

I certainly was there.

And even attended one of the debates in person. I campaigned for him from the start, and have been watching all the interviews.

Dr. Paul never thought he had much of a chance at becoming president, because of his views. Why do you think he said it was "about the message"? The campaign wasn't about winning "in the conventional sense," as in becoming president, but in the philosophical sense by winning the war over ideas.

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

"That's nothing but

"That's nothing but conspiracy theory. What's your evidence for that? Why would anyone polling in single digits be considered a threat to anyone? And how does advocating liberty threaten someone like Fox?"

Why did Fox not include him in the NH primary debate after he got almost 10% in Iowa?

Because the criterion

was that the candidate had to be polling at 5% nationally. Dr. Paul was not the only one excluded you know? There was Keyes, Tommy Thompson (both pro-war, so any argument that Paul was excluded because of his anti-war views doesn't hold water).

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

There was a great deal more

There was a great deal more real-world interest in Ron Paul than pretty much all the other candidates combined back when he was excluded from the debate. Check http://trends.google.com , search the candidate names and separate them with commas in order to compare. You might be a bit shocked to see how great the interest was behind Ron Paul despite the lack of major media coverage compared to the other candidates.

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That's not indicative of Dr. Paul's

public support. Think about it. Firstly, interest in Ron Paul doesn't equate with support for him. Secondly, Paul's supporters were more enthusiastic about him than the supporters of other candidates, and were constantly searching the internet for new news stories, videos, etc. The other candidates' fans just didn't care as much. The number of votes Paul received proved that Google Trends is not a scientifically valid way of determining support. He was still leading in Google Trends during primaries but still was not winning the primaries.

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

Okay, but we all know polls

Okay, but we all know polls can be skewed by the questions posed... What about using numbers which could not be skewed, like money raised? RP raised more in one day, and more from the military than any other Republican. Seems a little arbitrary to cite national polls over that criteria considering Fox's "support our troops" mantra they pumped in previous years.

Pollsters have an interest in being accurate.

There are multiple pollsters. They're competing with each other to have the most accurate poll that will foretell the election results. I believe it was proved that the scientific polls were pretty close to the election results, for Dr. Paul in each of the primaries.

If you don't want to go by polls, what do you suggest they go by to determine who their going to give the most time to? Television time is not unlimited, you know, so things have to fit in allotted time slots.

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

What about Fox's own

What about Fox's own post-debate polls, which RP won regularly, and was proven to only allow 1 vote per IP/cell phone #? I don't know anyone who was called in any of the phone polls.

Not a scientific poll.

If you take Statistics you learn that polls where a person has to call in are not accurate, because all you're getting response from is people who want to go out of their way to find a poll to answer. Of course, that's going to be the candidate who has the most ardent and fervent supporters. There's no question that that would be Dr. Paul - nobody cared about getting their candidate's name out more than Paul's supporters. This is why for a poll to be scientific, the poll has to comes to YOU.

In New Hampshire, I think most yard signs were Ron Paul. But again, this is not evidence that he's the most popular candidate, for similar reasons. Fans of Giuliani were just not so excited about him enough to put up signs everywhere, like Paul fans were. Likewise, Giuliani supporters didn't feel the need to send in a text message, both because they weren't as enthusiastic about him and they knew he was already famous so there was no need to try to get his name out.

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

Unless the process is

Unless the process is transparent the magic word "scientific" doesn't resonate with me. The idea that their sole objective is accuracy appears to be a safe assumption, but still an assumption. If Fox really cared about paring down the list of candidates while still remaining fair and balanced, they would have included the man with arguably the most conservative voting record in congress.....not candidates in which you couldn't fit a cigarette paper between their differences. As a wise man once said: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

great interview

great interview

Kucinich is a "Too Big To Fail" Pro-Bailout guy

Here he is on the floor arguing FOR the bailouts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUwk0oGci2g.

A silver-tounged devil, like all the rest. I do not trust any politician, save Ron Paul.

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

Not only that, but at the

Not only that, but at the end of the video he was saying home-owners should get bailout money. WTF is wrong with the idiots? What about renters? Why do we not deserve to get bailed out as well????? Or even better, DON'T BAIL OUT ANYONE.

He seems just as stupid as the rest of them, IMO.

That video

and the sound was so messed up you could not even tell what was going on.

Not the best quality but

It can still be clearly understood.

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

First democrat I agree with in a long time

Dennis could not have said it better about the TARP and bailouts.

We should support him via e-mail and encouragement. He may not be 100% on many of our views here but we should support in areas where we all agree with him.

Anyone know the best way to get e-mails over to him?

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I feel the same way

I'm trying hard to continue liking the guy but he makes it very difficult. He gave a pretty good speech at the DNC and then crapped all over it with his "Up with Obama" cheer.

Kucinich is a "Too Big to Fail" Pro-Bailout guy

Here is a video of him on the floor arguing for the bailouts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUwk0oGci2g.

"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

The World Wouldn't Work

if we all agreed on everything, and valued everything the same way. It's basic economics. No one would have any incentive to trade.

The world needs differences of opinion to just simply work. Truth is, we need some people who are statists in this world. We need more of them to agree with us, and DK has started to move along that path.

Doesn't make them any less WRONG about their vile statist beliefs, but there you go...

When it was announced that 11 Democrats voted against the stimulus, I was certain his name would head the list. I too was sadly disappointed.

~jaq

~jaq

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He's a politician

We need to make friends with others who agree with issues that we agree on and expand our base and our tent. Once we can engage with others, we can educate them on other areas.

The enemy of our enemies is our friend. Kucinich is definitely an enemy of the Federal Reserve.

He's the man.

Michael

You are 100% correct with that line of thinking. Points that we can agree on will start the dialogue which hopefully will lead to education that will bring us together. I know personally, that is how I was brought into the RP fold.

E Pluribus Unum

E Pluribus Unum

well said

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