The reasons we fail and will continue to fail if we don't change our thinking!
I am going to write a short version of many reasons why we fail and will continue to fail if we don't change it.
I am going to use the words of Ron Paul to try and justify my comments on what I believe is holding us back and if I offend anyone; well, sorry but not that sorry.
Many here are very new to politics and have very little background or understanding of how things actually work in any political party including so called 3rd parties. I do not like the name 3rd party sorry. The key to success in aything is to accomplish the goal together as a team.
If we do not diagnose the problem and understand how we got here in the first place we will never solve the problems we have :
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#1 : Many if not most people even on this forum would rather fight with each other about nonsense that means and will accomplish nothing rather than use compasion and reasoning to debate their point so the issue at hand is actually understood by the parties involved.
#2 : How can we defend or protect something if we do not have the absolute understanding of what we are defending or protecting?
Many if not most lack understanding of the constitution and what rights we are fighting to protect and the rights that are actually granted rather than rights we naturally have: Example : The 2nd amendment DOES NOT grant us the right to keep and bear arms. That is right It does not grant us any right at all. I would explain it but I would rather people start educating themselves on facts rather than waiting for someone else to do it for them. There is nothing wrong with asking for help if you need it but don't always take the easy way out. Here is the 2nd amendment please think about what I just said. :
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
I encourage all of you to read the bill of rights and tell me what amendments grant you rights. If you are to protect it you must first understand what is in it.
#3 : Most people are lazy and would rather have someone else do the job for them rather than getting involved and helping get the job done. If you lose your job do you wait for someone else to find you a new job or do you get off you ass and go find a job to support yourself and/or your family? If you lose your wallet do you wait and hope for someone else to find it or do you go and look for it yourself? The list goes on and on.
#4 : Some call themselves patriots in this revolution and present themselves as such although most of thier so called patriotism is based on bashing and attacking other patriots and/or making sure when someone makes a mistake that the whole world knows about rather than educating the fellow patriot that was mistaken and help them understand where their mistake was as to not make the same mistake again! Ironic isn't it? John Adams would have been proud NOT! Don't get me wrong; some people in this revolution do not learn and actually deserve this type of treatment but on after the above has been attempted first.
#5 : Some so called patriots were actually happy at the fact that there were short comings in the delegate process and rattled the roof tops by saying SEE I TOLD YOU SO! Rather than actually getting involved and growing our numbers to have an impact in the GOP. Happy that we failed, yes that is a true patriot folks!
#6 : Some judge people by the length of time they have been in this revolution rather than by what they have to contribute to it, which by the way is measured by the length of time they have been a member of daily paul or ron paul forums. That is in fact a great scientific way to judge ones dedication to our cause isn't it?
#7 : Many are quick to judge when ever a new person comes along and says something we know is just not true. Instead of using compasion and reason to educate these people on the facts and as to why these are bad things or just not true they would rather use the TROLL card without finding out if this person is using TROLL activity or is just uneducated. This type of action is not helping us.
My point is this; You may not like the people you are or have to work with and they may not like you and that is ok but wouldn't it be much more constructive if we worked together instead of arguing with each other actually got the job done and then worried about the rest later? Do we not understand that unless we start working together and start getting important things actually done we will go nowhere and fall deeper into this blackhole of an almost fallen country we live in?
If you make the wrong diagnosis you change the treatment or eventually you kill the patient. : Ron Paul
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We are failing
Because we are fighting for the very system that keeps us enslaved.
Force Mulitpliers
All your points are valid however that is not why we're are failing. We're failing because we haven't got our message in the main venue were most people get there information and cultural bias from which is the MSM.
The enemies of freedom are using technology to influence the masses on a scale that dwarfs us and we think knocking on a few more doors will get us over the top....
It's like pouring 180 proof whiskey into the the ocean and hoping to flavor the whole ocean. The whiskey while very potent in its own bottle is insignificant when diluted by the massive ocean.
We are much better at doing the ground work then the Republican party has ever been. They rarely do anything like what we did during the campaign yet they are still in firm control. They don't need to do the ground work because the media is a huge force multiplier for them. It takes a small effort and multiplies it exponentially. How else can an oligarchy control the masses without military force?
If we want to compete with them with any chance of success in any reasonable amount of time we have to get on the same level as them by getting in that venue. The High tide folks and others showed us how to do it in the last half of the primaries and now we are ignoring our most potent weapon.
Does anyone know who to get in touch with the folks who made the High tide videos?
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one of the best comments ever!
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Very well said!
A lot of people in this movement seem to think that informing the public is trivia, secondary to diving headlong into the political process.
Yet the public decides who wins and who loses. If the public doesn't know what you stand for, what your candidate stands for, or even who he is, you aren't going to win. Period.
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So what are we waiting for?
So what are we waiting for? If we got some great videos in the wings and start a pitch in to buy time on local TV stations to start educating the public. And perhaps recapture some of the excitement we had in the campaign. We reach tens of thousands in the comfort of thier own homes where they don't feel threatened and are relaxed and more open to what ever comes on the tube while they are watching... It's sales 101!
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I'll pitch in, but
it is cost prohibitive. Free advertising on the "one eyed monster" is best, but the powers that be will never allow that. Just think of how much it would cost to saturate the airwaves for one week or just one day with paid advertisements. It would cost a lot. I can only speak for myself, I can't afford too much these days. There are things that we can do that don't cost anything.
How about this. make a youtube video of something people can do locally to help our cause globally. It's free and if your video is good enough or has a good enough idea, people will follow.
Everything we say or do influences others either negatively or positively.
We need to be a positive influence on others. I believe that the only thing limiting us is good ideas, thinking outside the box.
And yes the original poster made some good comments, we should never attack each other, we must work together. Everyone here wants to restore this country to what the founding fathers intended, we may have small differences in ideology, but basically, we are all true blue American patriots.
If anyone cares to respond to this comment, I'll tell you what I will do.
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Excellent
and wise post, thank you.
The post DESERVES a better title
Even though it got me to read it...this post is way too good to have that as it's title!
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I don't think we are failing.
Six months ago, I felt we were failing, but today, I believe we are on a massive upward trend.
The simple truth is that this movement was, and is, ahead of its time. The world is constantly changing. Society still has a long way to go before it understands our message. We need to be patient and keep fighting--which means keep educating.
I think we still need to learn how to translate our ideas into victory at the ballot box, but there's no quick or easy path. Things may change.
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Don't get me wrong Kevin.
Don't get me wrong Kevin. Yes we have made a lot of progress but we are failing in several areas because of exactly what I posted. We have to change our ways or we will no longer move forward and will only run in circles.
We must stay focused, be smarter and stay one step ahead every time and if we do we will make more and more progress every time.
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Agreed, DP ahead of its time . . . yet I am ecstatic . . . .
and amazed at the fast exchange of ideas. And funny like the family squabbles. Without any hesitation, I would be placed on a desert island with all who contribute to the Daily Paul. and I would never run out of friends.
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A little nitpicky but important...
"I encourage all of you to read the bill of rights and tell me what amendments grant you rights."
None. None of the constitution grants you any rights. The purpose of the constitution is to protect the rights you already have.
That may seem nitpicky but it is absolutely critical to understanding the proper role of government.
We must understand that government does NOT grant us rights. Because if government granted them to us, it can take them away. The rights are ours first, and government should never be allowed to take them away.
That was the point of asking
That was the point of asking people to read it.
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"We must understand that government does NOT grant us rights"
I think that was the point. ;)
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Yes it was the
Yes it was the point
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So Steve,
you know you are very guilty in the past of many of the things you are preaching about here, such as bashing others, etc. Have you changed your ways and now promise to practice what you preach?
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how about you bashing others here
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my 1st comment in a long while.
I commend you for an excellent post, Patriot!
Bill of Rights
With regard to your #2, you are absolutely correct. This is not up for debate. What you said is a fact. Everybody on this forum should know this. In fact, the entire Bill of Rights does not grant anything at all. Google - preamble to bill of rights.
That was my point that
That was my point that everyone should know this but they do not and I see that as a severe problem if we are to defend and protect our rights.
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Good post my friend....
Good post my friend....
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Thank you. I just want us to
Thank you. I just want us to get on track and make a difference.
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you make some good and valid points
just don't agree with your title....
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I agree I changed
I agree I changed it!
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