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Harry Reid Doublespeak: Taxes are Voluntary

This is inexcusable.


Thanks to John for passing along the video.

The time has come to really start to get mad. How much more of this kind of insulting talk can we take?

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Another opportunity for me to post this link. I have not started practicing following the law regarding taxes myself but I have bought the books and believe it to be true. It seems the law says most people are not exercising federal privilege that requires them to pay taxes on actual income.
Really interesting reading, you can get deep into links at this site....


Reid is an

ass-munch. Nevadans DO NOT want him re-elected. Someone called into the news this a.m. & said if Reid thinks he's going to win a re-election, he's living in a fairlyland. :)

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

I crack up every time I stumble across this!

But then when it's over, how can you not feel rage!

These are the "leaders" in our government.

Ron Paul's Convention Speech

Senator Harry Reid sounds as

Senator Harry Reid sounds as though he is living in some sort of la la land. Maybe these people at the highest levels of politics in the U.S. actually believe this baloney? If so, it would at least explain all the politicians who are continually being caught cheating on their taxes.... er, rather "voluntarily" deciding not to pay.


I'm still waiting to hear the 'voluntary' part....

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

At about one minute in the

At 1:05 in the video, he says "We have a voluntary system." He also says the opposite throughout the video.

We are slaves to the Federal

We are slaves to the Federal government and have been since Lincoln successfully overthrew the US Constitution in the 1860s. The coup reversed the power relationship between the central government and the states.

As for the bailout plan, it is a cynical attempt to extort wealth from the average citizen by the heavy hand of the IRS and give it to the wealthy.

I am forced to pay income taxes to the federal government. By paying the taxes I am putting myself in jeopardy of losing my home because I may not be able to pay the mortgage. The tax money will go to the banks, however I will not qualify for a loan from the banks to pay my mortgage

As Ron Paul has said on many occasions, the financial problems we face in this country today could be solved quite simply by eliminating the federal income tax and our world empire. By eliminating the income taxes, the money saved would be in the hands of those who need it and would be spent immediately, and by eliminating the world empire we would save over one trillion dollars per year.

Anybody listening?

I think we need truth serum used on our political leaders

so they can be honest for once with the American people.

This guy is just a dodger. Voluntary my ass. I am sure to Harry it's voluntary, just like Daschle, Geithner, etc.

There isn't many times I want to curse at my computer, but this is definitely one of those. Just think: these are the dimwitted people teaching our children in the public school system.

I've taught my six year old well about socialism, Obama, McCain, Ron Paul, democrats and republicans. She is surely going to piss off her teacher one day; who by the way is a huge Obama fan.

My daughter said Obama's a socialist. He takes money from people who work and gives it to people who do nothing. Gotta love it. It even makes sense to a six year old but not the dimwits teaching our kids brainwashing them with collectivist ideas.

“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds” - Sam Adams

Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.


And lookie what I found in the "related Video's" section

Ron Paul on CNBC, with an ex-IRS agent.
The unconstitutional Income tax.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.

Dr. Paul is SO Handsome

in this vid - Thanks for posting. Genius.

Found this website the ex IRS agent has:


Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

This is perfect

Thank you for this. I am seeding a few discussions, in other places with this video. Let's retire Harry in 2010.

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.


Thanks Thundercloud for stating this, As long as we stay at our own site's we will Only be Preaching to the Choir. I have Debated many Democrats who Voted for Obama because of Bush & Many Republicans who Voted for McCain because they don't like Socialism. they are easily swayed into our way of thinking, mostly because it's their way of thinking. also they just don't Know what Dr Paul & the CFL stands for. If my Dumb a$$ can plant Seeds in their heads, I can just imagine what the Intellect on these boards could do. Travel outside of our sites, put up with the Idiotic comments, then when someone asks a question or makes an Incorrect statement, Bam! Plant a seed

Harry Reid is a worm

Always has been always will be a f*cking worm excuse my language fellow Daily paulers but I like many of you are up to my ears in this corrupt government f*cking the American people in the a$$ and most of these Obama sheeple will gladly bend over and take the mighty thrust lubeless.
Tonight we will hear this piece of crap this Israel boot licking scum tell us why its a great idea to give our money to throw in the pockets of poor business men that haven't got any experience in running a business will get to continue it thanks to our money. We will watch this back stabbing black bush cronie tell us that its a great idea that we help out with all the foreclosures for the people that were suckered into a house they clearly couldn't afford banking on the equity handling the A.R.M when its payments rise. Meanwhile back in middle class America where we rent and work and sweat and bleed everyday doing real productive jobs are told our money can help these poor people keep their homes they cant afford, Stop me I am ranting again but this blows the blood out of the top of my head, Im going to pay some other bastard to help him pay for a house he cant while I don't even have one? I'm so ready, I was ready yesterday. When is the real revolution start? Phone calls , contacting your representatives, peaceful protest, gathering in large masses to support good honest men like Ron Paul, Money Bombs, marches, Our own convention!!! look what it got us.....
Again when does the real revolution start? when it's too late? How many times can you be dry humped before you start to think death would be better if I fought for my kids future, for it to be what it was for me 30 years ago. Give me Liberty or give me death. Live free or die trying. I'm as mad as hell and I am waiting on the rest of my good men to realize real change in the past always came with the split blood of patriots and tyrants.
Ok back to the show my rant is over Harry the pond sucking scum worm needs a spanking I vote to us Nancy Pelosi's d*ck for the paddling.

hehehe get em' Tiger

sounds like a rant I heard on the Obama sites about the Republicans, Which gives Me an idea. Lets wind the Democrats up to go after the Republicans, then when the Democrats are wiped out & the "Powers that be" are softened up, We start our Revolution
I'm only half kidding of coarse

Is This a Good Analogy?

A man who is about to be crucified is told by his executioners, "your crucifixion is voluntary -- you can voluntarily build your own crucifix, or we will build one for you."

Good one!

~Your perception becomes your reality~

~Your perception becomes your reality~


I hope the day comes when all these men are put on trial for treason, although I wouldn't mind seeing them just taken to the guillotine.

I would like to start a new business...

Thinking about building medieval to early 19th century instruments of decapitation. To help my new business venture (and create jobs of course) I would like to see a one time tax credit in the current "Stimulus Bill" for all first time guillotine buyers.


good idea Rob

Nothing would frighten our political leaders like some 17th century justice French Revolution style. Gotta love it.

How about a hydraulic powered guillotine! Doubles as a wood splitter!

“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds” - Sam Adams

Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.


Worldwide Workless Week!

Stop the gears! Now!

Don't worry Harry....

Your time is coming baby! :)

1st, Income taxes don't exist against labor. They are still having an ignorant discussion, but that is on purpose for the sheep.

2nd, Income tax that is offered by sheep does not pay anything locally. Even if it was "real money".

3rd, signing and filling the 1040 is the only possibly civil or criminal dishonor that happens because you contractually agreeing in writing that you owe the tax. Guess what? You don't!!!

The reporter fella is at least dancing around the truth and not letting him off the hook. Buy anyway, still not a root-cause discussion.

Reid is dumber than a box of rocks

"Reality is the leading cause of stress amongst those in touch with it."
--Jane Wagner

Comparing us to other

Comparing us to other countries disgusts me.

I don't know about you guys

I don't know about you guys but wouldn't you just love to grab that guy by the neck and ........ well you know what I mean... lie lie lie... that is all they do.. cover up and lie some more!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain


I can close a number three COC gripper, the experience wouldn't last long enough to be enjoyable ;). Therefore it is more fun to watch him bumble haplessly along hoping he gets to stay in power :).


What a disgusting human being.

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Reed is playing word games. Here is "voluntary" explained.

What's Voluntary About Taxes?
William P. Barrett, 04.04.05, 6:00 AM ET

LOS ANGELES - It says right there in the Internal Revenue Service's official instructions for filling out Form 1040 that the tax system is "voluntary." But you better wait before you file for a complete refund of withheld taxes. Voluntary "refers to our system of allowing taxpayers to determine the correct amount of tax and complete the appropriate returns, rather than have the government determine tax for them," the IRS declares in a statement.

To the agency, therefore, "voluntary" apparently means little more than "not done at gunpoint."


The federal government also

The federal government also redefined the phrase "financial institution" a few years back and applied the new definition retroactively to prior laws. So now we have agents able to sign their own self-written search warrants to investigate what you may have bought at the grocery store or literally anywhere you may have spent money and you cannot even be told that it happened because there is some sort of 5 year mandatory prison term for anyone who talks after being served these non-judge approved self written warrants.

Buy your newspapers from hawkers on the street? They are probably considered "financial institutions" as well.



What in the world?!

That was complete insanity. How in the world can he spit horse!@#$ out? How can he claim it is voluntary, yet mandatory?

can't wait for that "voluntary" civilian force BS.

LOLOLOL and if I didn't laugh then I would probably be in jail

or dead for fighting for


like my fore fathers did.


"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."