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Steel beams thrown?

I keep hearing about "multi-ton steel beams" being thrown 500ft.

I'm having trouble finding any actual evidence of this online, but I know you guys have some somewhere, perhaps you can help me out here.

I'm looking for dimensions on some samples of steel found. Weight in tons, length, width, diameter. Pictures would help me out a great deal, as I haven't found any so far.

Thanks

Eric Hoffer

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah2hTMOlD5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9YjireIPCQ&feature=channel
http://www.911blogger.com/node/10025

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and here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=dtx_GcFCs6c&fe...

PLENTY of calculations can be found here. by licensed professionals.
http://www.ae911truth.org/

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I looked there first

But they didn't have what I was looking for. Thankfully, I'm working with a licensed structural engineer, so no animals will be harmed in the pursuit of physics.

Eric Hoffer

here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djwBCEmHrSE

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Bit off

He's neglecting the position of the tower as far as I can tell. The position of the building he's measuring to and the building he uses to confirm the heights of ejection are unfortunately in front of the WTC Towers. The piece of debris he's measuring could be going any number of degrees away from parallel to the line of vision of the camera.

It doesn't effect my theory either way. I'd be HAPPY to use his "70 mph" speed as opposed to the 55mph in my previous idea. In fact, I'll ask that it be done for both speeds, just to cover my bases.

Fair?

Eric Hoffer

sure.

I am not argueing either way. I studied this stuff intensely back in 07 when I first discovered it. I came away with the conclusion that there are some VERY valid points bieng made.
soon after, I discovered Ron Paul. and I decided that restoreing our constitutional republic is FAR and away more important than trying to discuss 911. peoples minds are closed to the subject. you have to work with bits and pieces of info. it is my hope that IF we can get our country back to it's proper place. the truth about 911 will be revealed.
I will thank you for your interest 911 and participation in our common cause long before I will argue over 911.

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" the important thing is to never stop questioning, curiousity, has it's own reason for existing..
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Thank you.

If I were a military man, I'd salute you over that comment.

Ron Paul first, everything else second.

However, this theory has me a bit excited, so I'm trying to test it now and hope you'll give me feedback either way when I post it.

Eric Hoffer

very few steel beams thrown!!

yes there was a "few" beams thrown out from building 1 & 2, but most off the beams from these buildings were turned to dust before they hit the "ground" whats that about?

While we're at the question game

Who gave the direct order to conclude that the air was safe to breathe at the site in spite of the known fact that the buildings had heavy asbestos, one of the most widely-known cancer causing agents, and it was absolutely clear that this was vaporized and particles were clearly in the air?

Whoever it was, they should be brought up on manslaughter charges and those who have fallen victim to serious health issues as a product of this should coalesce into a civil suit as well.
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Point 6

POINT #6:
Roof damage to the Winter Gardens is 600 feet from the base of the tower.
Aerial photos of the scene.

The Pulverized Office Contents pushed the 4-ton Outer Wall Units out in groups.
Still bolted together in groups 3 and 4 units high, 5 to 7 units wide,
4-Tons each, 25 units in a group, 120 feet high 60 feet wide.
Moving as a single unit indicates the pressure was distributed evenly
across the entire group, to move them out, all at one time.
100 Tons of steel ejected in an instant at speeds near 55 MPH.

This happens in all directions,
all the way to the ground, in 10 seconds

http://www.csi911.info/CSI911.html

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Awesome.

Thank you!

This will help me a great deal in the search for truth.

Eric Hoffer

Can anyone provide

a calculation for how much it would have cost to get these buildings up to current code in terms of asbestos removal compliance?

Also, what is the going rate on terrorism insurance for NYC skyscrapers?

Who performs the actuarial duties for such things and what are their assumptions?

Thanks.

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Come on now Kemp

Drop the sarcasm and get me the figures if you can. I'm at the end of my rope, and that means I'll have to make assumptions. Would you prefer I use assumptions and "regular" pieces of steel or actually the one I hear cited as being thrown 600 ft? From the 86th floor I believe is where Chandler says it's coming from, give or take.

It's a serious question, for once, but if you can't find the actual evidence for this piece, I'll understand. I just don't frequent the conspiracy sites as much, so I have less chance of finding the real numbers.

Eric Hoffer

I'm serious too

Also, I honestly have no clue about steel beams being thrown. This was the first I had heard of that. Thanks for the heads up.

Now if you would, could you calculate what I asked for?

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$7.00

Give or take.

Eric Hoffer

Eric, you silly devil !

You want someone to back up their ridiculous claims with documented evidence ?

You must not be " awake " yet ... if you were, you would be just sucking up all the bullshit, and not asking any questions !

Be nice!

See if you can find the piece they're citing.

To clarify, I have zero doubts that such a piece exists, I just can't find the evidence of the size or weight. I'm just looking for actual measurements here.

Eric Hoffer

Eric ...

On another thread, someone linked me a photo and a description...

I am sure they will do it again ...

I think it was a 5 ton piece of steel and it went through the roof of a building that was 500 ft. away.

Snapped like tooth pick and blown out of an air cannon.

In fact I think it was the only documented case of a piece this large blown this far.

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Actually I don't believe in flying steel beams, either.

That's why I cannot take the official claim that WTC-7 was "heavily damaged by debris" very seriously. It would take flying steel beams and giant chunks of concrete soaring sideways like cannonballs to seriously damage a high-rise skyscraper 600 feet away.

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But video shows this!

Video from one of the the WTC collapses clearly shows debris pouring onto WTC7. Once you see that video there can be little doubt left that WTC7 was heavily damaged by debris. Here are some still photos:

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc7_damage.html

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Right. Anything to say about the photos?

Ad hominem. Got it. Any response to the photos that show debris hitting WTC7?

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I saw it

Building 7 was definitely hit by tower debris. But the whole building coming down.. I'll always question that.

Isn't there

From what I can see, it looks like debris DID hit at that 600 ft mark. Steel beams or part of the outer wall from what it says.

Eric Hoffer

Even the one

Even the one piece will help, I've got a theory Forge is helping me on (when I say helping, I mean doing just about the entire workload).

Actually though, the most extreme documented example would be the most helpful to me, as I'm looking for the maximum distance as opposed to the average.

Do you remember what thread it was linked in?

Eric Hoffer

Also go the the very beginning of this thread and the Prof ...

did some math for you concerning the total weight and volume of air in the building.

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I enjoyed

I enjoyed that thread quite a bit. I was hoping you wouldn't cite it unfortunately, as the dimensions on that piece of debris are never given, only the weight of 4 tons. At least that I could find.

Anyone have any dimensions for me? It does matter. If I can't get any, I'll just use an average piece of steel used for the construction.

Eric Hoffer