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The Role of Government in the Australia Fires

Here are some dramatic photos of the bushfires in Australia from the Boston Globe's Big Picture. And commentary from a friend in Australia on the role that government played:

Government, of course, played its part. To gain the votes of the environmentalists, different governments over the years have failed to do the brush-clearing and back-burning required to remove fuel from the forests. They also failed to provide fire breaks (we can't chop down trees, you know). So now the forests are gone. Nice job, huh? The government also has a program of "leave early or stay and fight". Many people "stayed and fought" without the resources, knowledge, or experience they needed to survive. One hundred years ago, this wouldn't have happened. The men of the town would have cleared their land and burned when necessary. Men no longer own their land, of course, and many things, like burning, are illegal or require a permit.

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Lisa is not the answer.

Neither is - government protected - private property.

The Native Americans had it right: NO ONE owns the land. Yes, you may own your teepee. But beyond that it's fair game.

And there was a lot of game.

Without government protection (subsidies), private forest owners would never be able to able to profit from the sale of lumber to China.

Yes, private landowners do control fires better than government bureaucrats. So what?

A sustainable forest with meat for local families is the highest and best use of land. Private lumber companies don't provide that.

Sounds similar to a wildfire

Sounds similar to a wildfire problem we had in the US about ten years ago.

Too much government control creates these fires. I have never heard of a serious forest fire on land used for farming or paper pulp production. There are dense forests all across the sun belt of the southeastern US, and they never burn...because they aren't government-managed.

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I remember that California wildfire problem....

It was exacerbated by the environmentalist's wacky reorder of man vs. nature .....People were not allowed to protect their homes and properties with measures that would have staved off these wild fires.

I say we send the environmentalists to fight the fires from now on and when they're finished - exhausted and singed from the flames - have them put to work rebuilding the lost homes and lives that THEY should ultimately be responsible for..

Are the forests and all the poor animals that they so worship better off....gone???

"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom." Patrick Henry

Quite.The Walker,


The Walker, Coleville, and Slinkard Valley fires on the CA/NV border were a case in point. (Those and a couple others nearly got my NV house, too.)

Slinkard valley used to be the most beautiful part of our trip to NV. Now it's a ruin that won't recover during my likely lifetime.

Not only does the "no cutting" and "no clearing out felled trees" increase the fuel load and eliminate the firebreaks. But the "roadless wilderness" meme that's going now does more: When the fires start it keeps the firefighters away: They can only get into the area (when they can get there at all) with SUV firefighting platforms, not firetrucks. And they're more likely to get stuck and so must leave earlier. Roadlessness and anti-logging also keeps out loggers and vacationers, who double as early fire spotters, so the fires get far more established before they're noticed.

IMHO the blood of the crew of the air tanker that crashed at Walker CA is on the hands of the envirowackos and their cronies in government.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Living in Australia and experiencing it all from pretty close up

no, I wouldn't say you will get slayed for this.

IMHO, it's only human to look for someone, something to blame in this completely devastating disaster of incomprehensible magnitude.

I am sure, further down the track, blame will be put where it belongs but as it is now, it is still far too early to start playing the blame game. Many fires still going, dear friends of mine are caught in the middle with one burning North of them and one South (Bunyip State Park) with danger returning in the next couple of days when we are getting the hot weather through once again.
This wasn't just a 'normal' bushfire which can be destructive enough as they come but with the weather conditions as they have been, absolutely soaring temperatures, the land drier than dry with very little rainfall if any at all for months, it's been called the 'perfect firestorm'.
Having been in a previous one which was huge (Ash Wednesday), no matter what safety plan you got in place, the conditions dictate your actions, and your chances.

If people would have been told to evacuate when the fires started the people would have blamed the government for not having been allowed to stay to protect their properties.
Hopefully the Royal Commission is going to deliver some answers as to why and how,answering many of the questions that we all have.
I am thankful beyond words with all of my being that my daughter, hubby and 2 children got out safely.

My thoughts are with all who have lost loved ones, who have been affected in any way, losing house and everything else, the 7000+ homeless.

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this story will slay you ~

I sent it to Lisa. Fortunately, she is in Queensland and is safe.
Here is our communication:

Lisa, I am so glad you are safe !!

... saw this story at Drudge...was surprised they didn't censor the word "dickheads", but maybe the Australian newspaper is even infuriated with your government!

Heartbreaking ... it made me positively ill. ~ /wiz

Angry survivors blame council 'green' policy

* Andrea Petrie, Arthurs Creek
* February 11, 2009

ANGRY residents last night accused local authorities of contributing to the bushfire toll by failing to let residents chop down trees and clear up bushland that posed a fire risk.

During question time at a packed community meeting in Arthurs Creek on Melbourne's northern fringe, Warwick Spooner — whose mother Marilyn and brother Damien perished along with their home in the Strathewen blaze — criticised the Nillumbik council for the limitations it placed on residents wanting the council's help or permission to clean up around their properties in preparation for the bushfire season. "We've lost two people in my family because you dickheads won't cut trees down," he said...


Thanks -- I'm safe and sound and waiting for summer to be over.

The Aussie media is not as anal as the American media. They allowed the "dickheads" quote on the TV news as well. After 9:00 at night, they don't normally censor nudity or language in a movie, for example. A bit more European I suppose.

Seems like someone tried to light a couple more fires last night. I'm sure there is more than one dickhead out there. I hope they find at least one of them. I heard a story last night about a man finding his neighbors dead. They were huddled together with their dog. How sad, huh?

Gotta live life, wiz. You never know what's coming. ~ Lisa

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I miss Lisa.

I miss Lisa.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
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miss her energy ~

such a fun girl and a great patriot.

same here

I just had an exchange of emails with her...
Michael me and Lisa we where just trying to help DP and you.....I beg you to please give me a second chance and Lisa too deserves a helping hand.

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me too!

me too!

Good post.

Hard lesson for Australia.