Video: Dr. Paul on HBO's Real Time With Bill Maher - Friday

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The show aired at 10:00 pm ET Friday 2/20/2009 on HBO. Here's the clip of Dr. Paul:

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Why then do economists... say we should"

Not all economists: http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/01/28/economists-against...

Why is economics considered an unwaivering unified religion by these talking heads? It's misleading to the public. It's like saying "What do you mean the house if falling apart?! A 'worker' built it and says it's fine!"

Cheers!

While I appreciate Bill Mahr &

anyone who has Ron Paul on their programs, I fart in Mahr's general direction. Mahr has NEVER supported Ron & NEVER mentioned him when he was interviewed about the presidential election. Mahr is just another lacky; just there to generate some kind of profit from a point of view that is meaningless to him. It's just something for him to wrap is comedy schtick around. Dean Martin was a drunk; Bill Mahr is a libertarian. Neither of those statements is true. So glad his movie tanked. Wish he would be exposed for the do-nothing quack he is.

Ron Paul...

Should be sitting in the Oval Office RIGHT NOW.

Paul 2012.

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Sad and frustrating

But hardly surprising to see Maher spew the standard mindless NeoCon/Liberal/Democrat drivel about how we have to do "something".

Notice he didn't include in his introduction any mention of Dr. Paul's track record in predicting the current economic crisis. He DID try to lump him in with Bush and company because he is a "Republican".

It seems that the current MSM strategy is to allow Ron Paul some credibility on Fox News, etc. but to keep the NPR crowd completely in the dark.
Has anyone heard/seen him interviewed on any show that would be frequented by the Progressive/Liberal crowd (other than Maher)?

I think this is to maintain the Conspiracy line that there is no viable alternative to the Keynesian approach and that all opposition to the "rescue" bills is just GOP partisan posturing.

They dare not allow any real debate.

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Not perfect

But it was good to see RP on Maher's show, if for nothing else, to try to open the eyes of the yo-yo's that follow Maher like some kind of intelligentsia.

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maher

i think maher represented the govt's case pretty good and of course rp does a fantastic job putting him in his place. media coverage has been slanted on the side of the keynsians. so when maher asks paul about the failings of the free market, i celebrated that cuz it's a chance for a good austrian economist to make the case of the free market and get people to realized that we haven't had a free market.

Good Points!

Bill Mahr is NO libertarian!...The man is a schmuck...same status quo liberal buffoon....

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for Dr. Paul

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Is the panels opinion going

Is the panels opinion going to count when the economy totally collapses. When the paper is worthless, and they have no skill except their mouths. Can't grow even grow food lol.

Haha we'll be smiling ear to ear. We will have our gold and silver, our farming to keep us alive. What are these useless sluts going to do then?

Gold and silver = truth

Gold and silver = truth

I think Maher was kind of a

I think Maher was kind of a douche... but that's really only because I disagree with him... but at least he didn't get too harsh in his criticism/disagreement with Ron Paul... but I still can't believe Maher considers himself a libertarian... in no way is he one, except maybe on drugs, and that's it. But being anti drug war is no where near enough to be considered libertarian... there's more substance/philosophy to it than wanting to be high (haha).

I'm just sort of surprised now whenever I hear these dumb criticisms... I'm so thankful that I'm young and I got to learn about this stuff and form my opinion uncorrupted by media and other influences. But now that I know what I've learned it is shocking to hear someone say the free market caused the problem (this was actually the first time I heard someone literally say that).

Unfortunately, I think Dr. Paul didn't explain his arguments as well as he usually does. He mentioned that what we've had has not been free markets, but he didn't really go in depth with why they're not. I also don't think he handled the question about regulation as well as he could have.... He usually mentions that yes, we need regulation, but we need to regulate the beauracracy and the FED, and enforce fraud laws. That's important to say because otherwise people think you think it's ok/not a problem that people can screw people and get away with it. No, of course that's wrong, but that's not what caused the problem, that was an effect of government intervention and regulation, but most people don't know/recognize that.

He should always try to just go through a list of basic facts/logic to help his arguments, for example:

Statement: What we've had has NOT been free markets.

Reason 1: Free markets do not have a central bank controlling interest rates, controlling the money supply, and other rules/influences. We have a Federal Reserve/Central Bank, thus, we do not have a free market.

Reason 2: etc.

Reason 3: etc....

Clarity is so important, and it's important to make as many facts/points to your argument as possible, otherwise you'll be misinterpreted or doubted.

It's just like in a job interview. You can't just say you're responsible and organized as an answer, you have to go ahead and explain and give an experience that shows that you were.

I feel you

While I think this was overall good Ron coverage, he could have done a better job explaining why this hasn't been capitalism. Like you said a great point to make would have been there is no place for a fiat currency manipulated by central bankers in a free market economy.

this was a sham.

I felt that Bill was constantly trying to put Ron into a corner. I don't consider Bill Maher to be a libertarian. He's a socialist, period. He fits right in with Maxine Waters who has videos talking about socializing everything, it actually fell out of her mouth. He's part of the DNC machine.

While I am glad Ron had some exposure this was a dissapointment. So much for Maher's show. Why don't we just call it the Obama talking points hour.

I won't be watching his show again. He threw our guy under the bus.

BTW, has anyone here followed the new state of jefferson movement in Northern CA? There is a meeting on March 1st in Chico, CA. This was a big movement in the late 30's.
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he's definitely not a

he's definitely not a libertarian, but he's not really a socialist either, except for maybe economically.

Socialists and Liberals always try to say they're for freedom of choice on social issues like drugs, etc. and they try to say that they're for peace, etc. But the reality is, if their policies were enacted, government/the state would become so huge and powerful that such liberties and peace could not be possible. I firmly believe that inevitably, maybe not intentionally, the larger the state, the less liberty, and freedom cannot exist under a large, eventually tyrannical government.

>>he's definitely not a

>>he's definitely not a libertarian, but he's not really a socialist either, except for maybe economically.

I don't see a difference between a socialist economically and a social-socialist. Kind of redundant isn't it? Haha...

Maher wants to legalize drugs. Obama is a socialist and knows how to hit the bong.. I just don't see a real difference here. I guess the only difference would be that Obama would want to tax the hell out of it, but wait.. Maher appears to want the same thing in terms of taxes.. since the Rich made out very well in the 80's and 90's, let them pay all the taxes is what he said. I don't see how you can't say Maher isn't a straight out socialist.

Have you seen his movie religulous? It's pretty well done but obvious that he thinks anyone who believes in God is nuts. This guy turns my stomach.

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Sambachico, he's not a

Sambachico, he's not a libertarian first and foremost because this past election was at least the fourth general election where he has admitted to not voting for the LP candidate. Then he complains about marijuana not being legal. What a genius!

This is why I call the show "Real Phony w/Bill Maher."

I went to the tapingbefore

I went to the taping

before the show started, the head writer / producer was pumping up the crowd (called out my RP shirt)

He asked how many liberals are here and the place erupted, they asked how many conservatives and we were among the 5 or so that clapped, mind you this is the same studio they film the "price is right" in, so maybe 200+ people.

As bill went over the liberal talking points everyone clapped, and when he started talking to Ron, you could hear the people around us smack their lips and sigh, during the beginning, as Ron kept speaking and overcoming Bill's setups, they all started coming around, they cheered for Ron more than any other guest there. He sold them

awesome!

I'm really glad to hear that.

Strange - That is not the full clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t7MMdEOP7w
The clip above is edited a bit---why?
Bill says, "I wanted to have you on because you have
always been the one to say that spending so much money
is going to be the death of us." (loosely).

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I wish RP was more articulate

Boy I love the guy, but so far he has rarely been able to really explain his positions to the common listener. When he was asked "Didn't free market get us into this situation?", he responded with the generic republic mantra about how there was "too much regulation and too much spending." It was a non-sequitur to me. So often, he blows his chance to really connect with general audiences by spouting a stream of disconnected libertarian tidbits -- all of which are true -- but without a strong thread to connect them and make a strong impression on the listener.

We need someone else with credibility who really knows how to break it down for people and speak more persuasively. Peter Schiff comes close -- he's much better at that kind of talking. But he's not yet shown himself to be a leader.

I don't know if articulate is exactly the right word.

He seems to lack forcefulness when dealing with the media. The only exception I can think of was his retort in the 2007 debates where he said "I think we should take our marching orders from the Constitution!"

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You can always compalin

...but its back to glass half full or glass half empty.

How many people are out there doing what ron paul is doing, getting his airtime, expressing his views in the government.

Sure you can have bigots like Jesse Ventura. But how often do you find someone who is humble, and isn't in it for self-power and self-worship.

Someone who will always be doing what hes doing until his last breath, even if he doesn't have 3% support after 30 years. Tell me where else you can find this type of person.

I agree... Ron Paul is

I agree... Ron Paul is maybe not the best speaker/most articulate... but he's get the best ideas, and he's all we've got... So, we'll just have to make due.

Just think, if he was able to speak like someone like Ronald Reagan, or was younger (and looked like he did when he was running for president as a libertarian, not that he looks bad now... he still looks very respectable/friendly), I think people, sadly for such a shallow reason, would have taken to him much more.

The only question I have is

....what kind of panel is it if there is only one view and everyone shares it?

Thats worse then bill O'reilly. Thats like a debate where everyone agrees to the same position. No one backing up Ron's positions, hello Bill what are you thinking? Is this just an attack show, because there isn't any discussion happening.

When Maher said to RP that

When Maher said to RP that many economists are for Obama's stimulus package, Ron Paul should have said:

"Yes, but the economists that I listen to predicted this economic meltdown for years. The economists that are for Obama's stimulus package never saw it coming. The Austrian school economists have been getting it right, while the Keynesian economists have been getting it wrong all the time."

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maher

ron paul rocked it!

"too much regulation. too much spending too much debt too much inflation by the federal reserve. so we weren't even close to capitalism."

i wish ron paul gave maher specifics as to why we weren't even close to capitalism. maher's response "but that's all in the past" leads me to believe maher didn't understand or believe ron paul's answer.

because maher didn't let up...

with the pot balls he kept throwing at ron paul..it seemed that to maher this was the most important subject.

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because he would like like a retard

and you can't have this pseudo funny liberal be exposed.

"like like a Retard"

Ok are you the pot or the kettle?

If they want MY vote, they need to tell me why they are better than the other guy, not why the other guy is worse than they are.