Is the current economic crisis just a "set-up" to start WWIII?

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Is the current economic crisis a "set-up" by the international bankers to start WWIII?

Consider the sequence of events that happened in the 1920"s.

1. The boom of the roaring 20's.
2. The stock market crash of 1929.
3. The great depression of the 1930's.
4. The massive stimulus programs of FDR.
5. The start of WWII that brought the country out of the depression.
6. The world domination that followed.

In every one of those events, the elite made massive amounts of money. If it worked so well then, do you think maybe they would try it again?

Here is what's going on now!
1. At the meeting of the G20 in NY last month, the emerging countries were given a copy of the NWO banking plan which was developed by the City of London, in which they monitor and control everything.

2. Currently the US is rattling sabers by bombing key locations around the world to send a clear message.

3. The upcoming G20 meeting in April may determine the fate of the world. Either the emerging markets go along to get along or else - WWIII!

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Yes, that's what I

Yes, that's what I think.

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Could be...

We the People are no longer in control of this country, and if you think you are you are in LALA land....the only way we can fix this is if we have a tax revolt, and stop giving them more money.

gonna happen sooner then u think

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Depends on what happens at the G20 meeting

in April 2009!

This crisis period will end in a conflict, before 2020.

The question will it be Civil War II or World War III. Of the past three equivalent crisis periods in history, 1776, 1861, 1941, two resolved themselves with civil conflict, an one was external conflict.

My bet is Civil War II. The discontent is growing and will reach critical mass when the pain of going along with the present system of plunder and control noticeably exceeds the pain of Civil War. The federal government is trapped by the debt and other off book promises which it cannot pay. Those is power are not about to give up their plunder, so the conditions favor Civil War. It should be obvious that the federal government has far exceeded its authority and is out of control.

I doubt that the US could win WWIII, given our lack of oil and our heavy reliance on energy dependent, technological warfare. We don't have the manpower to meet China on the battlefield, and probably don't have the numbers that Russia and her allies could raise. We might be able to defeat the Middle Eastern countries, but this would destroy the oil resources, and there would be an impossible occupation.

"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley

I think you are right Henry

I think it will happen much sooner than 2020 - more like 2010-2012
Good post.

It can't be...can it?

It can't be...can it?

I'm hoping for Glorious Revolution II

It was the least bloody, and most like the situation we're in (minus the religious angle). Outside force trying bring us into a larger feudal structure, disbarring use of rights and arms, and opponents pushed back under the table town by town, county by county, so that the towns and nobility pulled the rug out from the monarchy in one coordinated motion. That's about where I see the lines getting drawn: State Legislatures, hard currency, and rights by default against Globalization, financial nationalization, and 'rights' by permission.

Runner up would be Civil War II, which didn't turn out well for anyone.

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something to think about

definitely my concern as well.

Deja vu

all over again.
same shit different century.

"Since 1789 the only government on Earth that has the power to crush the American people`s liberties across the board is the government of the United States"
Robert Higgs

Or is it

De Ja Moo?
That's when you think you've heard this bull before. : )

This is the Strauss and Howe Generational Theory

It's well known, especially in the political classes (Howe was closely associated with Robert Rubrin back in the balanced budget fights in the early 1990's).

The William Strauss and Neal Howe theory (there's plenty to read in a google search) suggests that four generational types repeat similar behaviors, leading to similar results, creating a feedback cycle that lasts about eighty-ninety years. 80 Years between 1941 and 1861, 85 years between 1861 and 1776 and 88 years between 1776 and 1688.

But nobody 'planned' it. It's just the law of unintended consequences. 'Bankers' didn't plan World War 1 or 2. The USA turned out okay after both wars, but Europe was devastated. Come to think of it, most of their power base was utterly destroyed, Britain lost its Empire, and Rothschild's Germany was in ruins and those ruins split into parcels for Russia and the West.

In fact, I think that Bush and Cheney MISREAD their place in history, thinking that the 'war on terror' was the 'Crisis of our Generation' (how many times have we heard Sean Hannity say that?). Truth is, they were off on their 'crisis' by a good 20 years, if they followed the normal cycle.

So while they thought they were 'solving' their crisis, they were in fact helping create it. Just as the cycle predicted. 9/11 was not Pearl Harbor revisited. It was the Lusitania revisited.

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Big picture

This has been going on for centuries folks go here www.pgorg.com/index.html

Cows think they are free, this is no bull, the beast must be Fed, with pitchfork instead

Cows think they are free, this is no bull, the beast must be Fed, with pitchfork instead

Another view to help understand,

or not.
http://www.alanstang.com/index.php?/site/comments/zionism_an...

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Problem with this Picture -

It focuses on Jews. I agree that many of the 'rulers' are Jews, but Jews are not the rulers.
Sidney the tailor doesn't want to rule the world. Myer the butcher is barely keeping up with his bills.
Jews are victims. Christians are victims. Muslims are victims. Religion, race are handles of hate ( can be handles of hate).
More likely the present rulers are descendants of the ruling families of the Crusader kingdoms of Edessa, Antioch, Jerusalem. They're trying to get their kingdoms back. That's why Islam is their enemy, and they're trying to make it our enemy.

All I know is that there are

All I know is that there are good Jews and bad Jews. Good Christians and bad Christians. Good Muslims and bad Muslims.

Let's not forget that Ludwig Von Mises and F.A. Hayek are both Jews who were major influences on modern Libertarianism, and who happen to be Ron Paul's heroes...

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Interesting document

I keep hearing conflicting terminology and have yet to understand it completely.

totally a setup

and all those cheerleaders on the tv are explicitly involved in this farce and are treasonous murderous a** holes

I say

Yes to your question.

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I completely agree.

The die is cast.

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

You're absolutely right!

It's playing out just like Orwell's 1984. I'm beginning to think that guy was an insider!
War destroys the overproduction, readjusts the equilibrium between assets and credit, and controls the population.
It's been going on, on a large scale ever since the English Civil War, and the Thirty Years war in Europe.
The smart money is being socked away in places like Lichtenstein and other hideaways.
According to Orwell, one tenth of one percent (maybe less) of the world's population are the true rulers. Three to five percent are the wannabe's, and the other ninety-five are the cattle. These cattle have the power but they don't have the brains. These cattle are manipulated and managed by factions within the wannabe's in order to maintain power, or obtain power.
Remember the ancestors of the present-day rulers were warrior knights. All the ruling families of Europe trace their ancestry to the three crusader kingdoms of present day Palestine/Israel, that is Edessa, Antioch and Jerusalem. They understand war. So they use war, and engender all the qualities that can eventually become handles to be exploited in war - hate, religion, race, nationality etc.
War is their game. There's another one coming.
I'm sure this will be hard for some to accept but if you love your country you could become a dupe. You have to rise above that and love your fellow-man, regardless where he's from in the world.
The hate generated by the warrior class, through their manipulation of media, education, finance is their power base. But the hate is generated in each of us. We can choose to reject it.

Poisoning the planet is another mindset from the same mind set.

See: Monsanto
See: Pharmaceuticals
See: the connection

Or we can choose to take our farm lands back, and simply ban poison. Period. The issue of land use will be flash points whatever happens. So, why not wedge the revolution spearheaded by permaculturist migrating and settling in, as they are doing now.
A war against the family unit? Let's push em back with the family unit.
As Orwell said, cattle have the power but they don't have the brains.
With the satellite and vedios, we have the brains and can affect . . . . . . .
"them". (their thugary will become just that. Unconscionable in the face of a sober crowd around the world.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

You are exactly right!!

The same people that cause the "crisis" are the ones that have the "solutions". Those that control the foreign policies also control the monetary system...the two go hand in hand ...and the outcome will always benefit the "ruling elite"! World Dominion is what they want and they have been planning and executing it for a long time.

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"Those people who have followed the foreign policy catastrophes of recent years are repeatedly struck by this phenomenon: all the "experts" who are supposedly so knowledgeable in this area -- that is, all the "experts" who led us into the catastrophes and who were grievously, bloodily, murderously wrong about every significant matter -- remain entrenched in the foreign policy establishment. Moreover, they are precisely the people to whom everyone turns for the "solution" to the disasters that engulf us, both now and the disasters likely to come. This is what it means to have a ruling class. As I have said, the ruling class rules. The ruling class exercises a lethal monopoly on the terms of public debate, just as it exercises a lethal monopoly on the uses of state power.

What you have seen over the last six months and more, and what you will see in the coming months and years, is the same phenomenon in the realm of economic policy. All of the solons who led us into this abyss of mounting debt, worthless securities, failing financial institutions, economic contraction and collapse, rising taxation, and all the rest, will now instruct us as to how we should "solve" the crisis that they have created. The crisis may be ameliorated to a degree, and the worst of the consequences may be postponed for a while. But whatever "solutions" are implemented, whatever reorganization and reregulation is imposed, it will all be done in accordance with the ruling class's desires and goals. It will all be to protect their own wealth and power to whatever extent is possible, and to expand their wealth and power still more, if that remains at all feasible."

full article here:
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2009/02/fucking-raping-...

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Thanks Bandrig!

For that Beautiful Insight!

I have heard Eustice Mullins talk about the three tiers of the ruling elite coming from the Black Royalty, does this tie in with what you are referring to?

Black Royalty?

I've not heard about these. Are they different from the present Royalty? (BTW, Eustace is great). Do you have a link about the Black Royalty?

The term is actually

Black Nobility.
Look under Eustice Mullins New World Order.

lol

countries cannot afford war right now.. We are bankrupt and so are they....

I love RP foreign policy model however I am leary of compleate free market Austrian economics. Its nice in theory just like Calvenism is but each have harsh lasers. One Salvation denied for most and the other a economic system with losers bieng the sick, weak, mentally ill, handicapped etc.. In Dr. Pauls system the sickest in our country would not be served well by the market. I love him but cannot support this riged theory in economics.. in principle it makes sense but with the global economy and interrelated markets if Paul is right we are doomed either way.

I think Paul is wonderful and I give all of us Paul appreciators in high esteem for trying to be consistent.

Wrong

Zogite bankers create money out of thin air, and can always pay the soldiers with gold, as they have done century after century and the zombie sheeple go for it every time because its "Patriotic"

Cows think they are free, this is no bull, the beast must be Fed, with pitchfork instead

Cows think they are free, this is no bull, the beast must be Fed, with pitchfork instead

Calvinism? What? NO comparison to the NWO

Calvinism (John Calvin) is a teaching of the the bible states that God chose those who would be saved before the foundations of the earth were laid. NOT based on the works/value of the person but on God's good pleasure.

How does that relate to the NWO hacks driving us to war? BTW I agree that this is the most likely solution to the FIAT money cycle - bankrupt the currency and then have a big war to wipe out lots of people and reset the money to start the cycle all over again.

It can't be...can it?

It can't be...can it?

spelled..."Calvinism"

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2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

No

I don't believe the economic crisis is planned. Here is why:

The bankers and their cronies have had absolute political and economic control in this country for decades. They have AT WILL and without any meaningful restraint looted the greatest wealth-generating machine in history. Why would they want to destroy it? Sure, they might reduce the entire world to socialist servitude, but why? They are not stupid. They know socialism doesn't work. They know the free market is the only real engine of wealth. Nobody wants to trade being uncrowned king of the palace for being crowned king of the dung heap and that is exactly what it will amount to if they destroy the relatively free market of the US and replace it with a command economy. And they know this.

I believe that this economic catastrophe is the inevitable result of greed and hubris, not planning. They believed they could not only keep the con game going, but escalate it. They were wrong. And now the con is collapsing, as with all cons that go on too long.

Oh, they may try to start a war to distract the people or to justify putting into place a replacement monetary system, but that would be "Plan B" at best. The traditional motivation for starting wars - enriching bankers and military industrialists - depends on having functional, efficient economies somewhere in the equation to pay the interest. They are not going to find such a thing on THIS continent. Not for a while anyway.