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Obama's Stimulus Package will soon provide hundreds of cities across the country with money for tens of thousands of sorely needed infrastructure projects while providing millions of desperately needed jobs. I cannot see the down side here!

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infrastructure improvements

are projects that, in a best case scenario, are completed. Any job creation will be temporary, and we will face the same problems that we are facing now once the infrastructure projects are finished.

It is a ineffective short-term solution to a long-term problem.

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If you are really are

If you are really are looking for a down side and have an open mind. All as you have to do is look to Cuba. For almost 50 years now their government has been providing jobs for their people. If you think Cuba is great country and the ultimate goal of the US government then there is no down side.

It's funny when the

It's funny when the government goes into a ghetto and replaces the projects with upscale townhomes that the population can't afford. All it does is displace people and leaves the houses vacant.

And who foots the bill? Take a guess.

http://federalfallacy.com

Without strings attached?

They either never show people the strings or show people after the law has been enacted.
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Then open your eyes!!!!

Thank you Dr. Paul for making me act on what I already knew was right.

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where is the money coming

where is the money coming from? how do you know the infrastructure projects are "sorely needed"? were they that sorely needed, the market would have provided for them. for that matter, who says infrastructure is a good thing? what about all the misallocation of capital from productive sectors of the economy? what about the interest being paid on that money that the great grandkids will have to pay?

now that you see the downside, you can vote for his opposition.

jeffwhite, These Artist's Need Our Help Desparately....

This project caused a lot of controvery from the beginning, funding was the main problem.I wish it was still the leather tannery...after a hunt you could take your skins there and they made the softest pelts.

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/15862
$10,000,000
The Tannery Arts Center is dedicated to providing an affordable, accessible and sustainable home for the Arts in Santa Cruz County.

The vision for the Tannery Arts Center is to create a home for the arts in Santa Cruz County dedicated to creating opportunities for individual artists and arts organizations, residents and visitors to create, explore, perform, exhibit, learn and enjoy the Arts.

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/3349
Or how about Cidra, Puerto Rico
New Energy Efficiency Industrial Zones 100 Acres
$17,500,000,000.00 - 1628 jobs - Energy Program

$10,749,385 per job! Sounds reasonable.

Another way of costing this project - 43,560 square feet in an acre - 100 acres in the project - 4,356,000 square feet in the project - $17,500,000,000 price tag - $4,017 per square foot They must be paving the streets with gold.

Yet another way: - Puerto Rico 2000 population estimate 4,000,000 - $17,500,000,000 price tag - $4,375 per person - My tax cut: $13/week - Weeks it'll take me to see an equal benefit: 336 - Years it'll take me to see an equal benefit: 6.5

The population of Cidra, PR is 38,000. The total they are scheduled to receive, including this project is about $18,546,035,000. That works out to almost $500,000 per person for this one city.

http://www.stimuluswatch.org

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Side note...government out

Side note...government out sourcing and contracts

I was recently told that ONE company (British owned) operates all of our toll roads and bridges (States and Federal). How "American" is that?

"It is not yours to give"

"It is not yours to give" Davy Crocket

Nuff said

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Sorry, I disagree...

I have issues with gov. having even some oversight of how a city spends its money.
Washington Times article from this weekend where Obama warns mayors to spend wisely.

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i have issues with the very

i have issues with the very concept of cities.

printing money

libby said about printing money, "I cannot see the down side here!"

If printing money can create wealth and prosperity, then why aren't we all wealthy and prosperous? Zimbabwe recently tried printing, and it is not working out so well. Printing money doesn't create wealth.

wouldn't it be easier to

wouldn't it be easier to legalize counterfeiting? i mean, rather than have the state absorb the printing costs, just outsource it to the people!

Look around at the people. We are

all hurting because of taxes, inflation (secret tax), regulation that makes it hard to start new businesses to create or even maintain jobs.
How can you justify squeezing the public even more to fund ever bigger government programs? The Stim.package will balloon the bureaucracy, create an increasing army of government workers to be always paid by more taxation forced from the people, fund lots of new government buildings, offices, cars, more bailouts to failed big businesses, bankers, huge financial firms.
Even worse, transferring more and more private resources to the government and their biggest cronies and donors to political campaigns means ordinary people are ever weaker and poorer and more dependent. And ever more gullible thinking they need the government to save them.
The government has robbed us of power, freedom, and resources to the point that people no long believe in themselves as strong creators. But people are the source. When the populace is enslaved they will stop producing all wealth. It's the history of socialism written in starvation and destruction all across the 20th century, in country after country. No exceptions. That is why most countries are bankrupt and failing now. The triumph of socialism and central planning arrogance and greed.

Keep it simple

It's slavery. To force people to pay through taxes, for the benefit of another, with the threat of imprisonment is slavery. If I walked up to you on the street and said, "give me $100", you would say "no". If I then said, "I am a neighbor, and my home is run down and is threatening your property values because nobody wants to live near me", would you then give? What if I told you that you have to give it to me or I would lock you up in my house? Get the point here? You have to listen to Ron Paul. Deficit spending is no cure for our ills. Besides, the stimulus bill has very little infrastructure built into it. That is how it was sold to the people.

only a brain dead, public

only a brain dead, public school brainwashed, imbecile would not see the downside to this.. libby you are much smarter than this!

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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Government.. school. They

Government.. school. They are not "public"! Have you ever tryed to talk to a school board?

Here's a down side....my

Here's a down side....my borough lives within it's means and it's infrastructure is completely updated right now. Now, all the other boroughs who are bankrupt will be stealing from me to pay for things they should have kept up with all along. They will be stealing to pay for police pensions, and everything else they can think of.

I don't think that's how it works.

But even if it did, don't you realize that if those boroughs around yours go down, they will pull yours down with them? We are all connected!

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

Yes, it's how it works.

Yes, it's how it works. Bankrupt cities and boroughs want to tap into the affluent boroughs. At the state level, they want to do away with boroughs and put all control at the capital. They want to do away with our right to manage our own money for pensions and projects. I am fighting it now.

If I may..... Yes we are all

If I may.....

Yes we are all connected because globalization has connected us all. So the offer up on the table is more governmental control and more globalization to prop up a failed system. Not to speak for everybody here, but I think most people on this site would rather see the failed system fail so that we may break the global ties and regain our regional and local sovereignty. That is wh we are so against these globalist socialist policies.

Check out this short video

Check out this short video and listen real carefully. okaythanksbye.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=118kqCPi6Ow&eurl=http://socia...

Except that it's unconstitutional

Except that it's unconstitutional to take away local control for those projects. If they were truly needed & not a Christmas wish list for all the liberals, then the projects would have been approved by the LOCAL voters. Tell me what is stimulating about a frisbee golf course in Austin, Texas?!

I don't know anything about a frisbee golf course in Austin, but

I have seen a lot of decay in our cities' infrastructure across the country. The monies that were allocated for these projects were obviously mismanaged and/or blatently misused or stolen in the past. Are these issues to be simply ignored?

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

No...

of course not. The mismanagement and blatant misuse and stealing should be *rewarded*. (What could be the downside to that?)

The families

whose loved ones were killed when the bridge collapsed up in Minnesota would not think you are very funny, I'm sure. Those funds were blatantly stolen, and the local taxpayers there were robbed and their loved ones were murdered.

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

It's not funny...

at all. Neither is it funny that you advocate having the federal government continue such unfunny activities...or perhaps you have deluded yourself into thinking that your messiah Obama and his administration are not participating in similar robbery and abuse...and to a much greater extent. That's really not funny.

Check out www.stimuluswatch.org

www.stimuluswatch.org

Type in your city & see what "goodies" you will get. Trust me, the frisbee golf course is in Austin's plans.

Thanks

I'll check it out.

. @ @ . Power to the People!
@ O @ -----> PEOPLE
. @ @ . NOT Corporate Entities!

None.

And I'm actually proud. Nor did the town we are considering moving to. Not one dime in stimulus money. Whoo hoo!

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