How to get through the collapse: Food, Shelter, Transportation, and Security
Submitted by lynnopoly on Tue, 02/24/2009 - 13:12I have posted many things here over the last year, but I promise you this is of great significance and value and I urge you to read it and share this information with all your loved ones. It's important because it speaks of preparation and survival, what to expect, how things will change, based on what information and experience was gathered during the collapse of USSR. Russians were able to muddle through the collapse by finding ways to manage: 1) food, 2) shelter, 3) transportation, and 4) security.
It is rather long so you probably want to print it out so you can get comfortable or if you prefer, you can listen to the speech here: http://www.longnow.org/ .. On this page look at the column on the right, 4 headlines down; PREVIOUS SEMINARS, click "download audio."
Social Collapse Best Practices
by Dmitry Orlov
14 February 2009
The following talk was given on February 13, 2009, at Cowell Theatre in Fort Mason Center, San Francisco, to an audience of 550 people. Audio and video of the talk will be available on Long Now Foundation web site.
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for showing up. It's certainly nice to travel all the way across the North American continent and have a few people come to see you, even if the occasion isn't a happy one. You are here to listen to me talk about social collapse and the various ways we can avoid screwing that up along with everything else that's gone wrong. I know it's a lot to ask of you, because why wouldn't you instead want to go and eat, drink, and be merry? Well, perhaps there will still be time left for that after my talk.
I would like to thank the Long Now Foundation for inviting me, and I feel very honored to appear in the same venue as many serious, professional people, such as Michael Pollan, who will be here in May, or some of the previous speakers, such as Nassim Taleb, or Brian Eno – some of my favorite people, really. I am just a tourist. I flew over here to give this talk and to take in the sights, and then I'll fly back to Boston and go back to my day job. Well, I am also a blogger. And I also wrote a book. But then everyone has a book, or so it would seem.
You might ask yourself, then, Why on earth did he get invited to speak here tonight? It seems that I am enjoying my moment in the limelight, because I am one of the very few people who several years ago unequivocally predicted the demise of the United States as a global superpower. The idea that the USA will go the way of the USSR seemed preposterous at the time. It doesn't seem so preposterous any more. I take it some of you are still hedging your bets. How is that hedge fund doing, by the way?
I think I prefer remaining just a tourist, because I have learned from experience – luckily, from other people's experience – that being a superpower collapse predictor is not a good career choice. I learned that by observing what happened to the people who successfully predicted the collapse of the USSR. Do you know who Andrei Amalrik is? See, my point exactly. He successfully predicted the collapse of the USSR. He was off by just half a decade. That was another valuable lesson for me, which is why I will not give you an exact date when USA will turn into FUSA ("F" is for "Former"). But even if someone could choreograph the whole event, it still wouldn't make for much of a career, because once it all starts falling apart, people have far more important things to attend to than marveling at the wonderful predictive abilities of some Cassandra-like person.
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This is an excellent and important article to read--
My son sent this link and the email--I thought it is good to post here:
http://www.happynews.com/category/business-money.htm
Couldn't help but send this too the main menu page for business/financial-check some of them out. The "Fargo" one is like something that Andy and I talk on sometimes. That all of this financial stuff is probably not a catastrophe, but more like an adjustment to a more realistic way to live than the TV tells us. And if you were already living on a more realistic level it shouldn't be much of an adjustment for you personally. This is NOT any criticism of real wealth or prosperity in any way because if you can do that it is awesome!!! But is meant to point out every person living a "red carpet" glam life of perfection and "security" at all levels when they actually have no assets or security at all is a pretty shallow and unrealistic life goal. We all see way prettier girls everyday in real life than on "America's Next Top Model" and can hear way more talented musicians than on "American Idol" next to you in church or performing at a club-just doing what they love, with no red carpet there. As I personally note in my life, somewhat humorously-"seems like I have the same or more business than before the "collapse", but it's actually cooler right now because gas is below 2 bux a gallon and tons of staple items are on sale more often at Fred Meyer!"
Congratulations, on the longest title EVER....8)
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LOL Thanks, long title also means long article.
~ but probably the best article ever written in preparation of what's to come.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
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Looks good....I will read when I get some more time....Thanks.
★★★★★★
The 2nd amendment.
The ORIGINAL Homeland Security
http://www.ronpaulbrochure.com/
http://www.dailypaul.com/donate
"If I Had A Donkey, I Would Feed It The Wall Street Journal"
I loved that line in the article; too funny. Bumping this article up, because there is much to ponder on for people here.
Wow Wow Wow! I finally got
Wow Wow Wow!
I finally got a chance to read this and this is one of the most important things people could read or listen too right now. I have been saying things have fundamentally changed and we don't even fully realize it. We're living in the past fantasy world when our world has changed.
I have been having lots of feeling about why am I hanging on and this guy just spells it out:
Amazing I am not even sure I am going to look for another job now. I may just ride out unemployment while preparing... I guess this sort of validates what I have known all along but still let my old programing muddy my thought process...
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Get Prepared!
Only dead fish go with the flow...
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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!
Get Prepared!
Exactly, even RP says, "all great empires must come to an end."
~ I so glad you enjoyed this, that's why I keep bumping it, I want all DPers to at least have this information, even if they decide not to take advantage of it. There will come a time (if not too late,) that they will need this information. Thanks for your great post!
PS. I know you are a gun guy, why is there a shortage of bullets?
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
I forgot to thank you for
I forgot to thank you for posting this article!!! There is no shortage of bullets only a shortage of bullets for sale. The reason being people, everyday folk like you and me are buying them up by the truck load. Demand has simply outstripped normal supply.
This is a good thing because gradually supplies will increase to meet the demand. I have a friend who works at Cabellas and they can't keep certain ammo on the shelves for more then a day or two. He says some folks come in and buy up all they have of certain types like once a week.
People know whats coming (at least to a certain degree) and they are getting ready!
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Get Prepared!
Only dead fish go with the flow...
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End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!
Get Prepared!
Well that's good to know. I was wondering if production was
~ slowing because of new regulations or serial coding each bullet, or whatever.
I can't seem to find any local lately. I started talking to my grandfather (95 yrs old) about making a few zip guns to have on hand.. we'll see how that goes :)
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
GuLag Archipelago by Solzenichen
I recomend this book http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agHQJmw-KFw
WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
Thank you.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
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lynnopoly - I am still reading, have already sent out the link to a family member and have pasted the text into a Word document and plan to print out a few copies to bring to my local Chamber of Commerce meeting next week. This goes beyond party lines and I'm hoping it will be well received. It is priceless (not the Citibank kind). :-) Thanks so much for sharing.
I think the more we help others prepare the better it will be
for all of us. Say I stock up on batteries and bullets and my neighbor stocks up on soup and beans; well now we have resources and trading abilities. We can not achieve a strong survival rate unless we ban together and create our own capital system. Then you look at the worst case scenario as far as stocking up and being prepared.. we can sell off our commodities if there is no collapse and we were non the poorer for it.
Thanks for sharing, and let me know how it goes over at your meeting!
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Thanks Lynn.
good stuff.
Find out if you have a local militia - http://www.uaff.us/
Real Patriots for 9/11 truth -- http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Will read as soon as the kids go to bed.
I saw this yesterday and bookmarked it just haven't had the chance yet. Looks interesting.
It's good stuff, and wrtitten with a little "hope" .
Anyway, lower the stress levels by actually expecting to hear stupid stuff on the medias. Give yourself a break, and work on something that is going your way.
All this stuff is a giant scam. I am more concerned about the persistant poisonings and the wastefulness of resources thru war.
I want the war on drugs to stop today, and the world empirical wars to stop tomorrow.
My goals are lofty, but this is a lofty time.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
The slide show he speaks of can be found here:
http://www.energybulletin.net/node/23259
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Thanks lynnopoly ....
"Don't believe them, don't fear them, don't ask anything of them."
-Alexander Solzhenitsyn
(He's the one that took on the Soviet government single handedly, and won!)
Lynnopoy, everyone should view the slide show, easy to go thru, and helps in an important area, that of "stress" of the situation.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
He was also critical of the antiwar protesters against VietNam
Said they are to blame for the genocide..etc...but interesting man.
So not really agreeing with the guy on a lot of things.
R3VOLution
Thanks, I didn't know about Alexander Solzhenitsyn
~ I found this: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1970...
If you have anything else of his you recommend, please let me know.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
This is a great article--a long article, but worth the time.
Some of his comments are a quirky sense of humor--laughing so we don't cry, I guess.
Yea, the guy is pretty funny. It's a long read but not heavy.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
This is an amazing article!
Thank you for posting this. As we march off to Afghanistan--the place where empires go to die.
Isn't it? I was riveted. I am going to play the audio for my
~ husband tonight while we fix dinner (multitasking is a necessity in our world).
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Everyone should read this
I've sent the link on to family and friends.
Great!
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Bumping because I think this is an awesome read.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Sorry to be a pain but this is the most important thing
~ you can read.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.