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Leave the police state that is America

Some time between 9/11 and now America became a police state. I cannot pinpoint the tipping point because the last several years are a blur of laws and policies that were passed so quickly and in such volume that no one could track them, let alone provide analysis. Even lawmakers didn’t read what they were passing. Moreover, I am not sure how to define “a police state” as opposedto a quasi one…so pinpointing is a term of accuracy that doesn’t apply. But, like pornography, I know a police state when I see it and I see everytime I glance State-side. And the collapse of the American dollar has not even occurred yet. When that happens — and it will be as swift as the mortage collapse — the fear and panic generated could well allow/encourage the establishment of one of the worst totalitarian states the world has seen in a developed nation.
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Curious

Has War On You ever published anything original? Every article they claim to be theirs was copy and pasted from another site.

oh for heaven's sake - there are places to go...

why are some people saying that there aren't.
fema camps are here. no where else.

there are alot of countries to live in much better than here.

spring is the deadline for me. i've got my unchipped passport.

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Ron Paul is My President

Where

Where are all these FEMA camps that are going to hold tens if not hundreds of millions of people? Where? Lets see some REAL facts instead of someone posting something on the internet, and now, its true. Got any photos? Everyone says the FEMA camps are here, they're all built ready for the martial law. Where?

Don't you know how to ixquick?

www.ixquick.com -search for FEMA CAMPS
here's some sites for everyone's edification:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camp...

here's their locations courtesy of google earth:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2619829/FEMA-Camps-Coutesy-of-Goog...

Here's HR645 legalizing FEma camps AFTER, that's AFTER, they've already been made:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11738579/Detention-Centers-Bill-HR645

Here's Alex Jones explaining HR645:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL0ZOutOJyE

Need any more info A$$ HAT?!!

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Start getting freedom today by dumping Federal Reserve Notes, Stocks, Banks and anything made outside the USA. Buy precious metals, real estate, businesses, food and guns and get your business community to use local or sound currenc

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Start getting freedom today by dumping Federal Reserve Notes, Stocks, Banks and anything made outside the USA. Buy precious metals, real estate, businesses, food and guns and get your business community to use local or sound currenc

Blah Blah

I have a friend, I have a website, blah, blah, blah. So what is everyone doing about it? Sitting around waiting to be rounded up? Buy gold and water filters from Alex Jones? Bitching on the internet for the past 8 years screaming 9/11, 9/11 and throwing the word jew around every other sentence. Wow, great work on standing up against the machine. I posted on a forum, that'll teach the NWO. I donated to Ron Paul (christian religous wacko fundie who doesn't even believe in evolution). Fight the power man. LOL. Bunch of nobodys hiding behind their computer talking all kinds of crap they don't really know anything about. All of a sudden, everyone is an engineer, explosives experts, economics major, business master, and all around know it all because you have the internet. Of course when there is a 1000 sites that refute your one silly little site put up by someone who didn't get enough attention as a child, the 1000 sites against your rightwing wacko idea's are all government sites fed to misinform by the evil satanic worshipping evil jews.

well, thanks for the humerous response. i enjoyed it!

Ron Paul is my President

Ron Paul is My President

Typical

Typical avoidance comeback. Nothing to say because you're all full of sh!t.

DingDingDing

Is it a wake up call … ?

… or a friendly invitation to meditate on a new mantra … ?

… maybe this bell tolls for thee :

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/81293#comment-881407

… it’s better than trolling for them.

I think Sunny was being sincere.

I, too, enjoyed your screed on our creed.

You are clever. Can you be profound ?

Are you genuine ?

Since you like to be flip, give the coin of the realm a flip … see what comes up ? ;-)

Where's your facts?

What evil companies do we hate? Show us the money trail that they're actually sponsored by anyone but the banksters now holding up our government. Oh, and the pentagon is spending 44 billion dollars this year alone for a PR campaign-that goes for alot of Rush Limbaugh and Olberman salaries. Here's a media watchdog (associated press) explaining exacty this fact:

http://medialeft.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&...

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Start getting freedom today by dumping Federal Reserve Notes, Stocks, Banks and anything made outside the USA. Buy precious metals, real estate, businesses, food and guns and get your business community to use local or sound currenc

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Start getting freedom today by dumping Federal Reserve Notes, Stocks, Banks and anything made outside the USA. Buy precious metals, real estate, businesses, food and guns and get your business community to use local or sound currenc

likely by the time you get your head around the existence of ...

fema camps ... martial law will already be here and patriots will have started disappearing.

If

If patriots are to start disappearing, then why haven't they started. Why do they let somebody like Alex Jones walk around for 10 years, singlehanded exposing every single conspriacy in the last 50 years with "proof" and he's not dead. Really, if he was such a threat and knew all this top secret information only the masonic jews are supposed to know, why aren't they taking him out. They supposidly took down that plane last week in Buffalo because a spouse of a 9/11 victim was on it and she was questioning the government over the 9/11 story and they took her out, yet they let Alex expose everyone of their secrets in nice little 2 hours, $20 a pop DVD's and he's free to walk the streets. Two conclusions. Eithers he's in on it with them, as are all the other top "patriots" and "toothers" so the CIA leaves them alone, or they know he's a batsh!t crazy wacko who poses not threat to undercovering their master plans for world domination because their isn't one.

What do you want to do today? Why lets spend hundreds of years being controlled by jews so we can hold back cancer cures and poison people with fluoride and worship satan so we can take over the world Pinky!

The camps are real

Even Celente has talked about them. He was blowen away when he confirmed the information. They are real. This is really happening.

mymymy - chill out.

i have a friend who came across one in new hampshire and another one who came across the 'one' here in maine.

there's info about this on the internet yes. and there are gov't docs. that speak of it.

why are you so skeptical?

Ron Paul is my President

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The reason to be skeptical

The reason to be skeptical is because it is healthy. I have been to a few of the locations reported on the web as FEMA camps to exist in the Southeast. Guess what I found? NO CAMPS.

The easiest thing in the world is to have all the people here on the DP, who are interested, to actually travel to those sites listed within their areas, then report what they find.

I also know some employees of KRB, you know the ones who had the contracts for the "internment camps", they said the contracts that were given to them in 2006 have never been activated.

So, as my grandmother always told me: "Chew before you swallow"

Just because something is on the web doesn't mean it has any veracity.

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"The Truth is not always comfortable, but it is always safe" - H. W. Johnstone

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"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

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THE STATE is eating itself

THE STATE is eating itself alive....when all that it depends on collapses, so too does THE STATE. While THE STATE will seek to maintain its control over this People, it will begin to slip from their grubby hands as the economic fiat system that fuels their power crumbles.

I WILL STAY, I WILL FIGHT or die trying!

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"The Truth is not always comfortable, but it is always safe" - H. W. Johnstone

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"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

that is how I feel

that is how I feel Republicae.. I love this country to much just to get up and leave it.. If families would just prepare... get enough food for 2 years.. Non hybrid seeds, metals weapons and ammo we could outlast them.. the problem is the federal government has made the population dependant on them. This was done to make people do what they wanted or starve.

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson

I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain

Not My State

California is going to legalize marijuana.

Looks to me our fiat money is made from marijauan... The Democrats say legalization will pull us out of debt. The Democrats say that legalization will lead to decriminalization. The Democrats say the hold up is GOP ARNOLD.

My bet is CA is going to legalize and this is going to destroy the GOP for good because the GOP is saying NO.. wromng move in these times when evryone here in CA is saying, legalize it and tax it... CA Senate expects CA to profit $400 Billion annually on sales.

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The problem is not the

The problem is not the quantity of money that is available, it is what THE STATE is doing with it. THE STATE is, no matter how much "money" it produces from what every sources, whether the printing press or confiscatory taxes, is consuming the economy in a massive unproductive manner. The only growth sector of this economy is government [federal], as it consumes more and more of GDP. Since all government is non-productive and it is draining productivity from the economy, it is essentially eating itself from the tail up.

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"The Truth is not always comfortable, but it is always safe" - H. W. Johnstone

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

The State

What the state is doing with the money is offering grants.. $12K grants are available for all kinds of opportunity, and I'm sure there are much bigger grants for bigger projects. For those who are not in debt or had a bankruptcy, it appears there is opportunity for John Galt to get paid for making his engine, not selling it into oblivion.

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hehehe.....capital

hehehe.....capital productivity is not possible under a dying fiat monetary system. Each deficit dollar spent today only returns 50cents in return in growth, by 2010 that amount will decrease dramatically, by 2015 there will be no return effect for every fiat dollar spent into the economy by the government.

Oh, yes those fiat grants are available, but considering that the government is consuming much more than it is putting into the system then what do you have? You have a system that is consuming itself. We are about to reach the point where it doesn't matter how much fiat money the government injects into the economy the economy will not be able to produce a return on that money. The fiat money is losing its ability as a medium of exchange in the economy. The more the government consumes of the economy the less the economy will produce, no matter how much fiat money they drop from their wondrous flying machines over this country. All the money they are giving out in grants, bailouts and stimulus checks came from either the economy or the "printing press", either was it is not an opportunity, it is a curse that will eat away at this country like a canker worm.

Once again, it is not the quantity of money but the quality of money that is economically meaningful. You can have Trillions of Dollars tossed out in every type of program, stimulus, grant, loan, and bailout, but as the quality of that money is degraded, the results will be negative, not positive.

http://www.1776solution.blogspot.com

"The Truth is not always comfortable, but it is always safe" - H. W. Johnstone

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

i'd rather die on my feet,

i'd rather die on my feet, here, in america, fighting for liberty, than live on my knees in some third world socialist dictatorship.

"I choose the danger... hell of a time to ask." -Bones McCoy

I'd say the police state started with the signing of the patriot

act, then when they started issuing Cattle Prods ( Tazers ) to quell dissent I knew it was all over .

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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Stop the NWO....It's just illumi..Naughty !

They can enslave our bodies

but our minds will always be free.

It's A Prison Planet...

... as someone famous says. No point leaving, unless you have a spaceship, or are contemplating suicide. It's better to stand and fight where you are.

I left England because it was turning into a police state in front of my very eyes, only to come to Canada, which is turning into a police state in front of my very eyes. Just wait until next February when the Winter Olympics comes to Vancouver, B.C. - then you'll see the full force of a police state in action.

Oh well - at least we don't live in China or North Korea.

at least they have jobs in

at least they have jobs in china

I DO have a spaceship...Pack

I DO have a spaceship...Pack your bags..we're outta here!!!

That is the real question...

It can't be...can it?

It can't be...can it?