State Sovereignty: State lawmakers fighting federal stimulus...Yahoo Main Page Article
CONCORD, N.H. – For small-government die-hards, the $787 billion economic stimulus bill recently passed by Congress isn't a life saver. It's the last straw.
Lawmakers across the country are sponsoring resolutions — most of them only symbolic — asserting state sovereignty, in effect the right to ignore any federal law or policies they deem unconstitutional, including the stimulus bill, the No Child Left Behind Act and any new assault rifle ban.
In New Hampshire, the House is scheduled to vote on Republican state Rep. Daniel Itse's resolution Wednesday. Supporters are planning a rally at the Statehouse before the vote.
"I think that the specter of some assaults on our liberty have become so real and immediate that there is a reaction," Itse said.
Lawmakers in at least 15 states are sponsoring similar resolutions. They say they're fighting back against decades of federal overreach, culminating in the stimulus package.
"This has been a progression from (the New Deal) days to today, with the only break being Ronald Reagan," South Carolina state Rep. Michael Pitts said by e-mail. Pitts, a Republican, has a resolution pending in the South Carolina House. "The stimulus bill is simply propellant for the resistance."
In January, 22 percent of those surveyed by the Pew Research Center disapproved of the stimulus. That number rose to 34 percent in February. The survey — which polled about 1,300 respondents — has a sampling margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
Two lawmakers say they have received hundreds of calls from constituents supporting their resolutions. Michigan state Rep. Paul Opsommer, a Republican, said about 250 people have called or e-mailed to say thank you, whereas most of his bills draw fewer than 10 messages.
Missouri Republican state Rep. Cynthia Davis, whose resolution is pending in the House, said she has received at least 200 supportive messages from constituents and residents in other states.
"I'm getting letters from all over the country," Davis said. "It's really a beautiful thing, watching the spirit of the American Revolution come back."
Resolution sponsors cite the 10th Amendment, which says the federal government has no authority beyond the powers granted to it under the Constitution.
Several governors — mainly Republican — have threatened to reject some of the stimulus money, claiming it would raise taxes in their states. Some analysts see the revolt as partisan posturing.
But Opsommer, who thinks the stimulus has spurred many of the resolutions, said in an e-mail that the states' rights movement transcends party politics.
"Some Democrats feel it is an attack on Obama until I explain I also introduced it last year," said Opsommer, whose resolution is pending in the Michigan House. "This is about the rights of the states and the people, not anything to do with Republicans or Democrats."
A Democrat in Kentucky, state Rep. John Will Stacy, is the prime sponsor of a sovereignty resolution in that state. He did not immediately return calls.
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This is why States will never get State Sovereignty:
http://www.youtube.com/user/walkbla99
The States don't have to get
The States don't have to get it-- they already have it from inception. I understand the logic behind the video but if our intention is to ground our selves in legal bindings such as incorporation etc., then by all legality what can be proven to have been done unlawfully in our nation's past is in reality null and void.
The 14th amendment is just ink on paper; it was never truly ratified because the southern states, which Lincoln used as signatories, did not have any representation dually elected by their populace. The fact that they were under militaristic rule with appointed "pro-Lincoln" representatives during reconstruction nullifies any and all amendments made during that time. Like was the case with prohibition, the people in their masses can dictate unto the Federal government the constitutionality of said amendments-- if they can only be educated of the fallacy that has been promoted. Of course that is the key,
Furthermore, if we look at the individual State constitutions before the 14th amendment was ratified (some were forcibly changed under reconstruction) most (if any) did not provide authority for any representative, and most certainly not those whom were appointed by coercion, to yield a State's authority over to a foreign entity (i.e. the Federal government corporation). The state belonged to the people within it, not any body of officials. Who were "THEY" to decide for the people of the states?? We may have allowed this atrocity to carry on thus far, but that does not mean that it has somehow overtime become legal or legitimate. Could I sell you my neighbor's house without his consent? Could I give you the title to the Brooklyn Bridge? Could my representative personally appoint you President of the United States? No. To do such things one must have the authority and the consent of all those involved (in our case the governed). We may have took my neighbor's house from him, I may have sold you the Brooklyn bridge, or my representative may have appointed you President-- however that does not mean that you actually own those things nor hold that position of authority. All is nothing but a facade hiding the fact that you are holding stolen goods and stolen authority. In the instance that someone comes along who has the nerve to question, prove, and prosecute you for your breaking of the law.....you are just waiting to be held accountable. Time does not make your wrongs legitimate nor do they make them permanent.
They have built this so-called "Corporation" on a foundation of sand, given a sizable tremor, we would see it easily crumble.
As stated before the key is educating the populace that we are in charge-- not "THEY". "They" do not have vast expanses of people nor do "THEY" have the will to actually come down to the line and slug it out with the mass populace. "They" have to rely on subjugation through propaganda because their numbers are so few. If the propaganda machine is eroded then so too will their control over the masses.
While rectifying the flaws of the 14th,
we need to rewrite Article I, Section 8 which gives the Federal Corporation dictatorial power over DC ("To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever,...")
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Hopefully that did not come
Hopefully that did not come across as an attack-- cause it wasn't meant to be. I am just saying as long as the populace agrees America is a corporation because of the actions set in motion by the unconstitutional 14th amendment then they are only facilitating it to be so.
Stolen property is not legally transferable if it can be proven that it is stolen-- all actions stemming from an illegal action are null.
Yup.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
I reserve the right to govern myself.
Here is the response I made to that lawyer in the article
Here is the email address of Mr. Hesse:
dhesse@piercelaw.edu
Give him Hell!
Mr Hesse,
I saw the following quote from you from an article on Yahoo:
Richard Hesse, professor emeritus of constitutional law at the Franklin Pierce Law Center in Concord, said Itse's resolution could strip authority from state leaders, as well as from Congress and the president.
"When you think about this claim that if a state believes a federal law is unconstitutional it can just ignore it, then I presume if a county believed a state law was unconstitutional it could just ignore it," Hesse said. "Really what's implicit in this is an unwillingness to recognize a lawful authority."
Did you find the internment of the Japanese Americans lawful and wonderful because it came from "lawful authority" or maybe you are a big fan of the Chinese re-education camps because they are done under "lawful authority". So many examples of "lawful authority" that can make one sick. You and other lemming lawyers like you make me sick because you believe in nothing. The Constitution means nothing to people like you. You will find anything you want in it when it suits your agenda and ignore it when it does not.
Roger Hermann
Chicago, IL
Roger Hermann
Chicago, IL
Nice one!
Nice one!
Yes, very nice. When
Yes, very nice. When first read I wanted to scream.... 'This is the 10th Amendment' you idiot!'
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yes, but read the last 2 paragraphs.
Makes me want to vomit in my mouth. A professor of Constitutional Law? give me a break....
"Some in New Hampshire wish no one had thought of it. Richard Hesse, professor emeritus of constitutional law at the Franklin Pierce Law Center in Concord, said Itse's resolution could strip authority from state leaders, as well as from Congress and the president."
"When you think about this claim that if a state believes a federal law is unconstitutional it can just ignore it, then I presume if a county believed a state law was unconstitutional it could just ignore it," Hesse said. "Really what's implicit in this is an unwillingness to recognize a lawful authority."
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“Revolutions never go backward.”
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
John F. Kennedy
I agree. The article also
I agree. The article also seemed to try and give the movement a partisan flair-- though they did mention the one democrat. There are also more than fifteen states but instead of using a higher number they chose to word it as "at least 15".
Any constitutional law professor who advocates differently than the direct instructions of Founders should be stripped of their credentials and blacklisted....not praised or touted.
I posted the article because so many people on this forum have been working hard to get the states to reassert their sovereignty and once again be the entities which made the constitutional compact and agreed to bind the federal government to its designated powers. At first the media made no mention of the movement, but now their starting to look this way. Of course they will dig up any socialist big government so-called professor they can find in order to undermine the movement-- but the writing is on the wall and I think if we keep making a large fuss about it the average American will come to question their so called constitutional theory.
Don't get me wrong, I am glad its being mentioned.
It's just how they manipulate it. I worry... errr ... I KNOW that most people are incapable of deciphering the B/S out of it. Maybe it will make them look into it further ... I hope anyway.
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“Revolutions never go backward.”
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
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differences between municipalities
and agencies always occur.
Just the reality of the peoples of the world being crushed and all living things and creatures silently screaming . . . . the world says war is a wasteful use of resources and a fearful way of life.
Revolution is here.
On the economic side:
"There isn't enough money . . . in the entire global economy. . . . . to bail out the banks from a massive derivatives default today.'
Makes you wonder just what these corporations are doing to the rest of the planet.
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
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