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This Segment Was Worthy Satire ...
... and fun lampooning of circus clowns.
BTW, IMHO this thread is worthwhile DP debate. It's invigorating to see the thoughtful advocates on this forum come out to play. Ahhh... the sport of critical thinking ... free minds frolicing in healthy exercise as everyone blows off steam.
The Last part of that segment rocks
Is it fun to be a Billionare?
Yeah.....
Jon Stewart : "F*^K You!"
good but not that good
Jon Stewart is good at what he covers; but I'd like to see a video of him seriously criticizing Obama, The Daily Show's parent company, or some other far left figure before I would watch the show.
What's up with all the CNBC apologists?
Geez, you'd think we've been infested by a corporate PR campaign, reading the comments below.
CNBC is at best entertainment, at worst financial industry propaganda, and at its very essence, simply a delivery medium for financial industry advertisements. What they are NOT are serious journalists. This should be clear to anyone. The warning signs abounded for years before this crisis hit, but CNBC has never bothered airing any of it.
As for Santelli, yes that was a good rant. But where are the YouTubes of his ranting against the banker bailout?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/gonigam3.html
Santelli looks like a good working class guy, but look who he works for. He's a kept man.
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Michael,
I don't know if you read my posts below or not, but what bothered me wasn't the criticisms of CNBC. I don't like Cramer, and I don't know much about Santelli. But the White House has been attacking them during press conferences (something Nixon was despised for), and the Daily Show furthered those attacks with no mention of the ongoing acrimony.
About two weeks ago, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs made a theatrical attack on Santelli during a press conference, after Santelli's little speech on the Chicago trading floor regarding the mortgage bailout plan.
On March 2, Cramer strongly criticized the president's economic agenda, calling "the budget a 'radical agenda' and said it was 'the greatest wealth destruction I've seen by a President.'" *
Later that day, or perhaps on the 3rd, Gibbs said the following during a press conference:
"I'm not entirely sure what he's pointing to, to make some of the statements. And you can go back and look at any number of statements he's made in the past about the economy and wonder where some of the back-up for those are too...If you turn on a certain program it's geared to a very small audience. No offense to my good friends, or friend at CNBC. But the President has to look out for the broader economy and the broader population." *
Daily Show took this line of attack, devoted an entire episode to it, and passed it off as if there was no other reason for wasting an entire show other than Santelli canceling as a guest 5 days before. Other guests have canceled on the Daily Show before, and Stewart at most would make a joke or two about it and move on. I do not remember him ever using that as an excuse to professionally denigrate someone for an entire episode.
Perhaps it touched a nerve as well because it reminds me of some of the treatment Ron Paul received during the campaign.
(* http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/white-house-cnbc-te... )
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CNBC Deserves it, Santelli does not
Does anyone know why Santelli cancelled? CNBC is full of nonsensical talking heads. Some of the people there have been continually telling people to double down on Citi all the way from it's highs to when it hit single digits. Santelli is usually the voice of reason and doesn't deserve to be lumped in with the rest of the CNBC ride-the-wave crowd.
In general, Stewart/Colbert have been off base way more than normal lately. Stewart recently mangled logic in protesting how the head of the NRA said "...the founders knew that people with guns make the rules." "Really?" Stewart said, "I thought the country was founded as a constitutional republic." Hmm, if the founders wanted a constitutional republic, but knew that the people with guns made the rules, I wonder if they would think it a good idea for the people to have the right to bear arms? Way to connect the dots, Stewart.
His brain fart regarding the housing bill is just another example of him missing the boat. He is talking as if just because the Govt has approved trillions of dollars in lending and bailouts, $275 billion for a housing bailout isn't that much money. It's only twice as large as the Savings and Loan bailout! And of course no one considers that propping up home prices through further bailouts is counterproductive and actually makes it harder for poor people--people who may have been smart or fearful enough not to have been swindled by subprime ARMs--to buy homes in the future.
Colbert, for his part, has been at Glenn Beck's throat recently, especially for Beck's episode on doomsday scenarios. The markets themselves are betting that there's maybe a 10% chance that his doomsday scenarios wil occur, if you look at the pricing of current options. Yet despite that there's as much as a real 10% chance that we could have a depression more severe than the great one, Beck is a fool for alerting people that there might be cause to prepare for the worst.
I still love the shows, but everything must be taken with a grain of salt. In a lot of cases, Stewart/Colbert are simply not informed.
So now we like socialist/interventionism a la Stewart?!!?!?!?
WTF!?!?!?!?! Rick Santelli is the only person on CNBC worth listening to. He has consistently opposed ALL bailouts, and ALL government intervention, unlike just about EVERYONE else in business news.
In other words, Rick Santelli supports the free market, and Jon Stewart mis-characterizes him as supporting corporatism or "voodoo economics". We should salute Rick Santelli, and I encourage anyone who disagrees to find just ONE article/video he's put out where he does not support a 100% free capitalist market. (...don't waste your time...)
If anyone doesn't think we should have a 100% free capitalist market, I would ask them why they have come to these conclusions, and why they were ever supportive of Ron Paul.
You don't have to agree 100% to enjoy or laugh at something
The second part is the part that most DPers probably
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You may have to laugh while
You may have to laugh while you listen, but you'll find more truth on the Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert shows than in all the MSM combined.
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Class warfare?
The whole damn shootin' match, everything, is just a show... Lights camera action.
Humans are the only race that seem unable to deal with just relaxing when there is nothing to do at any given moment. We invent imaginary insolvency over imaginary value digits then act like it is a universal emergency, like the sun will explode, if our funny money game doesn't continue.
Shrug... Things will balance out soon enough :)
This is unfair...
I watch CNBC every morning and half these quotes are reports - not claims. John is usually pretty on point but not this time.
He's clearly being vindictive.
Rick was right to not come on the show.
Did you miss the point he was making.
Reports are claims.. Just by saying it people think it. Rick was making populace remarks, it's all a show!.. When are you going to understand that..
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Yeah, I agree
I think this was taken out of context because I do think Santelli's against it all--not just homeowners who mortgaged themselves to the hilt for new pools, SUV's and new bathrooms--but everybody. Stewart misses the mark on this, and I do think he's pissed. His love of the ding dong is comin' back to bite him.
TV Hosts don't like cancellations
Anyone else here get it? He's just upset that they guy canceled an appearance on the show and he's blowing off a little steam at Santelli.
Jim Cramer. What an idiot. He also needs to switch to decaf.
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Shouldn't this video be posted on MOVE ON.ORG?
Or some other socialistic anti-capitalist website? Are we confused here? Rick Santelli and the traders in the pit are the ones cheering Ron Paul and rallying against the Fed and government involvement. The video is just ridiculous when you think about it. Attacking journalists? Yeah it's all their fault, not the governments. Anybody can make a Michael Moore movie with enough video and a good editing machine, including the new idiot on the block Jon Stewart.
Gee...
...seems like someone made their case...
HOW THE F*** ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN STABILITY IN A RIGGED *(&#*(&$&$(*&$( n SYSTEM!!!
Santelli is gonna get exactly what he is paying for, him and a million other "experts". Bah nevermind I forgot that people don't look beyond the "news". The fact that 80 million people aren't marching on "government" installations already is the proof in the puddin'. Now back to your commercials!!!
Yea... Those F'n homeowners right...
Ethics is just too complicated for humans to think about... Back to sleep!
Great video
Thanks Jon. Took me this video to open the eyes of some friends. Nice
John Stewart is no better than the rest of them.
I think there are some differences between Reagan and Obama. Reagan came into office, slashed taxes, slashed tax code, increased spending and raised interest rates. Obama came into office, raised taxes and increased spending.
Stewart also didn't assign any numbers to his graphs, so I went to Yahoo! Finance to look at what the actual drop was - was it 18% as we've seen from the day before inauguration (8281.2197) to yesterday (6875.8398)?
http://finance.yahoo.com/
Am I missing something here? Did Stewart actually LIE in his chart on his show??? WTF?
Day before Reagan's inauguration the Dow is at 970.99. On March 4, 1981 Dow is at 971.44.
This is seriously irritating. What an A-hole.
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Could these be posted as
Could these be posted as youtubes or something, so that the show can load in by ram/harddrive for awhile. Or post them at lower resolution? Not everybody has 2 GB Video RAM and SuperDuperFast internet Connections. (In fact, I've only got about 170 MB or RAM)
TRacy
For the Record. Stewart never claimed to be libertarian. I do like how he's got several pieces now about how Bush and Obama's foreign policy are exactly the same.
Tracy
Jon Stewart is a tool. He
Jon Stewart is a tool. He is not even funny anymore. He is just angry because he is stupid.
I'm surprised to see anyone
I'm surprised to see anyone on this site discourage Santelli and his reaction to the ridiculous spending and wasteful programs our gov't is successfully implementing. Very surprised. How would you have reacted given the chance???
besides that
Santelli's piece is totally cut out of context.
Wow, this has been spun/twisted a lot:
I think they misrepresented some of those guys.... Santelli for instance was against ALL the bailouts if I'm not mistaken....
as far as the CNBC analysts making crappy "predictions" some of them were only quoting the statements from those companies/banks, and were not giving their opinion in the clip. For example, one of the clips from Squak Box:
"Will Meryl need to raise capital? "No," that continues to be the refrain FROM MANAGEMENT, from Mr. Thame.... "No need to raise additional capital says Meryl Lynch."
In a clip from Kudlow, they have him saying the following as if it's a statement of fact, but he's actually asking a question to a panel member and the clip is cut before he answers: "The worst of this sub prime business is over... *CLIP CUT* Do you agree?"
Cramer was definitely wrong, and definitely stupid.
And don't forget, not all the people they quoted were from CNBC... they were analysts/economists/brokers/investors brought in as guests. And, don't forget that sometimes those people included people like Peter Schiff, who were right.
Amen.
Seriously, Stewart is directing the common anger against the bailout against those who are more freedom oriented. He knows views like rewarding those who fail are extremely unpopular and so he frames it in a compassionate or populist manner, i.e. "of course we have to help other PEOPLE" but screw wall street and screw the banks, but only screw them for their excesses and not the general idea of bailouts.
Stewart seems to jump on the popularity of the freedom train and then direct it where he would like, which is not the town of freedomville.
The Daily Show is a comedy
He doesn't have to be fair to those he is making fun of
Agreed. Jon Stewart is just
Agreed.
Jon Stewart is just doing the dirty work for this administration. See my post below.
It seems like 98% of the time Stewart is just making fun of the lowest hanging fruit, and he's very entertaining. He builds up a weird, ironic credibility with his audience through his mockery of whatever he sees is wrong. He's even been kinda tough on Obama. But then there's that 2% of the time where it seems he's deeply misleading his audience and intentionally misrepresenting people for a specific purpose. In this case, he was helping the White House attack members of the media.
I found this deeply disturbing.
There were stock market cheerleaders on EVERY CABLE NEWS CHANNEL. Why is Stewart calling out CNBC alone? Because Santelli and Cramer, and CNBC by association, have been singled out by the White House as enemies. See my post below.
This episode of the Daily Show was not amusing to me. It was frightening.
Awww, lighten up...
Stewart's job is to ridicule and lampoon mercilessly. This he did well. I don't agree with the logic, but it was good for a laugh.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore