What happened in Nashville yesterday?
I received this email from Matt Collins today.
Posted online here
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=12809
What happened in Nashville yesterday?
WOW! Surprised
I'm almost at a loss of words...(again)
The Davidson County (Nashville) Republican Party (DCRP) gathered yesterday to elect their officers for the next 2 year term. Those voting on the officers were delegates that had been selected on Feb 28th at the DCRP Caucus. It is not wise of me at this point to disclose how many delegates I brought with me but I believe there were around 184 delegates selected and about 141 of them showed up yesterday to vote. I was running for the DCRP chair position against Mrs. Kathleen Starnes who is what I would describe as the "establishment candidate".
To start the day off for whatever reason the venue we used was late unlocking the door by about 20 minutes. That combined with the length of the registration queue caused a delay of roughly 30 minutes for the convening of the convention. Due to normal business (approval of the rules, motions for or against processes etc) it was about 10am before the election of the chair got underway. A gentleman who ran for chair but dropped out a few weeks ago had decided to throw his hat back in the ring by way of a floor nomination. The rules did not allow him to speak if he did not give a few days prior notice about his candidacy to the Contest/Credentials Committee. It's exceptionally technical but there was a flap about whether or not the rules should be suspended so that he might be allowed to give a 3 minute speech. The rules we not suspended and he was not allowed to speak. The individual who nominated him was given 1 minute to give a nominating speech. This candidate is what I would call an "anti-establishment candidate".
After his nominating speech I was given 3 minutes to speak and my other opponent, Mrs. Starnes, was given 3 minutes to speak as well. At the conclusion of our speeches ballots were passed around and everyone was asked to write down the 3rd candidate on the ballot so that all 3 candidates would appear on the ballot. After the ballots were collected and counted the results were this:
- establishment candidate = 64 votes
- anti-establishment / last minute candidate = 20 votes
- myself - 57 votes
The anti-establishment candidate at this point was out of the race and then we proceeded with a runoff between the establishment candidate and myself. During this election there were some anomalies in the voting. Allegedly a few ballots were destroyed, and some rules were broken according to several individuals who informed me about this. I did not see any of these actions for myself so I do not want to accuse anyone or speculate on anything. And I don't even necessarily believe that these actions (assuming they occurred) shifted the outcome in anyone's favor or not.
The official tally of the runoff was 69 votes for Mrs. Starnes and 69 votes for myself. That obviously equals 138 which is less than the number of delegates on the floor. It is also worth pointing out that 4 people in the first election who were not delegates voted illegally, their identities of course remain unknown; but this was inconsequential. At this point it was 11:30am and delegates were leaving due to the fact that many had other activities scheduled during the day. Historically the DCRP convention doesn't normally consume 3 hours so people had planned accordingly. Also more important was the reality that we had leased the room only until noon.
After we were informed there was a tie someone from the state party and the current DCRP chair pulled myself and the other candidate aside and explained the situation to us. They essentially begged us to both agree that we should adjourn and reconvene around 30 days. Given the circumstances that it was hot in the room (the A/C wasn't working), we were losing delegates, and we were about to be kicked out of our rented space, we decided to choose this course of action. So the current officers and chair are still seated and will be until we decide upon a date to reconvene and vote in a new chair.
And that's where it ended.
I had many delegates that I did not bring including some sitting Nashville City Councilmen who were supportive of me. Also a very high ranking member of the TNGOP reached out to me today, gave me his card, and said that TNGOP chief of staff Mr. Winslow (who called us "nutjobs") does not speak for the entire Party. Many individuals changed their opinion about me and what I represent during the course of the day apparently. In other words the tide is turning and our ideas and our presence are becoming more accepted and apparently even welcomed in to the Party by more and more individuals!
I believe that if this approach is carried out by other limited-government groups around the country in regards to getting voted in to their local Republican Party we would start to see a change in the GOP and perhaps an entire paradigm shift within as early as 2 years. That time horizon is of course critical to the 2012 election.
History is indeed being made and this time the limited government conservatives are the ones making the "change".
If you are in the Middle Tennessee area please come out to Logan's Roadhouse on Elliston Pl Thursday night (3/12) between 6p-8p to discuss our options, plan our strategy, and delegate tasks to win the vote.
Also see the following articles:
"A Revolution in the Davidson Conuty GOP?"
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2009/03/06/a-revolution-in...
"Ron Paul Republican makes run for Davidson County GOP Chair"
http://www.examiner.com/x-3875-Nashville-Public-Policy-Exami...
RLC Members Running to be County Chair in Tennessee and Utah
http://www.rlc.org/2009/03/07/guymon-collins/




















I feel that the reaching out by GOP leadership
is NOT trustworthy. The Republican party will always be dominated by the Neocons, and therefore will lose my support almost 100% of the time.
This "all of the sudden" interest in fiscal conservatism is NOT genuine.
Any attempts to change the Republican party in our favor will dilute the movement and destroy our chances at restoring liberty. Moderate Demoratic voters will hesitate to accept anything with the label Republican. Social conservatives within the Republican party, who ever strive to legislate their twisted morality (Christian warmongers mostly), I find AS OFFENSIVE AS ANY SOCIALIST!
I know many of you identify yourselves as Republican, just know that that label to me is now offensive. The GOP is so lost theat the majority of them thought they had a chance against Obama, they were completely clueless. The support of GWB by the majority in the GOP immediately also makes me despise their ignorance.
The Republican party is dead and should not be the focus of our energies. We need to call them out as the scumbags they are, break out on our own and not think that the Republican party is viable, IT IS NOT!
I have to disagree...
The Neo cons hijacked the conservative movement, and they basically did so with persistence, the same persistence we are going to have to use to make a difference and create a new Conservative GOP movement within the party.
"Any attempts to change the Republican Party in our favor will dilute the movement, and destroy our chances at restoring liberty."
I think the Libertarians and Bob Barr will tell you after just yesterday being labeled an extremist group by the Israeli lobby or anti-Defamation League (ADL) that a third party run is non productive, had Dr. Paul not been a 30+ year Republican he would not have had 10 minutes TV exposure for his campaign, let alone being a center piece for economic discussion today in the media. Wake up and smell reality, the thought of introducing a new party to the brain dead zombies of this nation is futile. Ron Paul, with all of his honesty, integrity, and liberty loving followers couldn’t garner 15% of the vote with the media blackout, so how in the world are we to believe that creating a new third party that gets completely ignored will help? I have read many posts about people wanting to "form a new party", and if this is the route that some want to go then rest assured your message will never see the light of day and chances for restoring any form of liberty will be non existent, and we will wish the message was simply diluted. The system is rigged, and unless we get some true blue, die hard, vicious, political insight as to how we should proceed in hijacking the GOP back to its roots, then we will be a footnote in history and the status quo wins. This is simply my opinion on the subject, and I find it hard that anyone could disagree that it is better to have a voice politically even if it is ridiculed and heard, then to have a voice that no one hears.
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
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Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, and set those BRUSH FIRES everywhere you go and in all you do!
So Expose the Neocon Agenda
So we need to expose the neocon agenda:
Neocon: a communist oriented fascist – John Q. Publix
VIDEO
3 Part Series: The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear
http://freedocumentaries.org/film.php?id=135
BOOKS
America Alone: The Neo-Conservatives and the Global Order
http://www.amazon.com/America-Alone-Neo-Conservatives-Global...
Two camps of Neocons explained: The older Irving Kristol vs. The younger William Kristol. Older Neocons, brought to power under Regan, do not believe in preemptive war; younger ‘War Hawk’ Neocons do. Authors explain riff in the movement. Details all movement societies, think tanks and media. I highly recommend this book.
The Neoconservative Revolution: Jewish Intellectuals and the Shaping of Public Policy
http://www.amazon.com/Neoconservative-Revolution-Jewish-Inte...
Neo-Conned! Again: Hypocrisy, Lawlessness, and the Rape of Iraq
http://www.amazon.com/Neo-Conned-Again-Hypocrisy-Lawlessness...
this is so bad ass, i can't even tell you....
but i must admit something here............
the person writing the post should learn to use the word "myself" properly!
that shows a SERIOUS amount of illiteracy.
you do not say........"they called myself and the other candidate over...."
you say......."they called the other candidate and me over......."
people!!!!!!!! don't be afraid of the word "ME"
holy crap.
It's a Blog - He left His Editor @ Home
He called us over.
Well said.
Learn to write is right. Also, the author's title is a question which he then proceeds to most boringly answer.
:)
Enforce the English language, Cinco.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
Excellent~ This MUST happen EVERYWHERE!
The GOP Is In Shambles!! It's Time To "Show Up" In South Carolina!! And Yes We Did "SHOW UP"!!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/83796
Excellent~ This MUST happen EVERYWHERE!
The GOP Is In Shambles!! It's Time To "Show Up" In South Carolina!! And Yes We Did "SHOW UP"!!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/83796
Warning
Regarding those approaching you and treating you with more interest and respect:
It's possible they saw you almost win, and in case you do win, they want you to remember them fondly. Trying not to be too cynical, here. Just as most big political donors give to both parties, there may be some of that, here.
I fear it was a mistake to postpone. I'd be really curious about the airconditioning and whether it was turned off for a reason, and worried that the establishment will pack the house next time. You need to make sure your supporters know that they must stick around to the bitter end and that they may have been manipulated -- nobody likes that.
IMissLiberty
IMissLiberty
IMHO you nailed it.
I think you surprised them. They were ready for an ordinary meeting and the support for our side was a rude awakening.
You need to recruit as many as you can for the sequel. Count on it that every machine-connected GOP political functionary that is elegible will be there for the next meeting.
They'll see this as a war and muster the troops.
(In Nevada for the nominating convention they couldn't do that because the delegate selection was already in concrete. Here it's "whomever shows up", so expect more to show up - or the meeting to again never happen. Also expect other "screwups" - like wrong info about dates and location, missing or late notification, etc. Check things out for YOURSELF in ADVANCE and get there early.)
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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."
That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.
Turning off the HVAC is a standard ploy.
Turning off the HVAC (Heating Cooling Air Conditioning) is a standard ploy. It is used to clear a room of people who aren't prepared for it, aren't willing to endure a little hardship for their cause, or to create an excuse to close a meeting when it's going the wrong way for the operators.
(I had it pulled on me and a friend when we were at an open house for a new nuclear reactor in Canada and started asking uncomfortable questions like "It can't explode? What is the PHYSICAL MECHANISM that keeps the reaction from increasing without limit?" and "It doesn't create thermal pollution because you dump the hot cooling water into a river? I thought the environmental problem was thermal shock when the fish swam across the boundary disrupting their reproduction and that the proper solution was to dump the warm water in a pond attached to the river so it provides a gentle temperature gradient.") They turned the room temperature way up, claimed the AC was on the fritz, and as we were finally leaving (after the other visitors who had been listening with interest had gone) I noticed one of them go to the 'stat and turn it back down. B-) )
(By the way: I later found out what the mechanisms were that keep it from going bang - and that some of them don't work for some designs (though this wasn't one of the bad designs.))
Anyhoo: Prepare your people for such games - and find out for yourself from the venue, in advance, how long things are rented for, what happens if you need to go into overtime (they'll often let things go on if nothing else is scheduled soon after), whether they turn off (or turn down) the HVAC after time is up (they often don't - it doesn't really save a lot of power to let a room get hot or cold then bring it back to temp for the next event) and whether they'll leave it on for you in case of overtime.
Turning it off and having an event following so you MUST leave so they can clean up for the next event are mutually exclusive.
Also: If they DO plan to turn it off, find out how much they'll charge for an extension and have YOUR group offer to pay it. B-)
And don't be surprised if you get no cooperation and/or they tell the powers-that-be that you're on to this. Major venue operators are usually politically connected and the political clubs will select their buddy's place for functions.
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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."
That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.
Thank you for being a patriot!
Thank you for being a patriot! Please keep pushing us forward and I wish you the best of luck!
great work TN!
Keep us posted, and good luck.
Encouraging
This is really a very encouraging story. With so many C4L groups acting disruptively and reducing their effectiveness by trying to force the overthrow of the GOP establishment it's great to hear about someone who is doing it the right way with real grassroots support and a respect for the process -- and succeeeding. So much better than all of those who have tried it the other way and failed.
Dave Nalle
Vice Chairman, Republican Liberty Caucus
http://www.libertyrepublican.com
Dave Nalle
Chairman, Republican Liberty Caucus
http://www.rlc.org
Summarize.
Get to the point. What happened?
yes
i'm still unclear of what the outcome was?
good news, not so good news?
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Suggestion
Get together with your last minute candidate and assure him that you intend to represent "all Republicans" and do not intend to exclude anyone. Build a coalition. Also, clear up how the election is to be conducted prior to any votes. Make sure everyone knows you intend to "play fair". Good luck.
Even though we stand our
Even though we stand our ground that the Iraq war was a big mistake and unconstitutional, WHAT IF that war becomes a non-issue and the economy is the ONLY issue?
Answer: The Republican party will unite and welcome us if they want to win ever again.
Great story in TN!
next time bring some more people and win this thing
momentum is turning our way...
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I hope you win and don't sell out
We won several county chair seats in our state. All but one of them began making deals with the establishment to secure their future political careers, and now the Liberty movement in Idaho is pretty much dead. Many individuals still hacking at the beast, make no mistake, but nothing significant going on as an organization, no group meets on a regular basis at all in most of the state. (Up north is the beacon, they are behaving like Montana while the rest of the state behaves like California.)
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Good news
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You bet !
If voting could really change things,
it would be illegal. Here is hoping for change!
Well you haven't won, but keep up the fight!
I hope you succeed man. I really do.
NASHVILLE is the home of some great patriots
Dr Paul at the war memorial was amazing thanks guys
Do whatever you can to pull
Do whatever you can to pull the win, because I'll tell you what, if the establishment candidate really is an establishment candidate, there won't be a trick in the book she won't be willing to break in order to end up on top. Use this time wisely...
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Thank you - that was inspiring.
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Good News TN!
I hope you pull out the win when it reconvenes. Let us know what happens.
They tried to pull a 'Nevada'
But the people are waking up.
Good to hear that.
Thanks for the update--get out the vote for the re-run election
in Davidson County, Tennessee! The newspaper articles are great!