Our grandson taken from us by Alaska Office of Children's Services

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Hello, my wife and I are desparately trying to find help in getting our baby boy back from the Alaska Office of Children's Services. He was given to us by our oldest daughter the day he was born. He was 8 months old when they snatched him away. He got sick one day and had to be flown to a nearby hospital for emergency treatment. After three days in the hospital, two people claiming to be from the Office of Children's Services came to the hospital room where my wife and baby were and told my wife that they were taking emergency custody of the baby and that if she tried to stop them, she would be arrested and jailed. She refused to give up the baby, they came back with a policeman, my wife, fearing jail, gave him up. We had court, but the court found ruled that we lost Indian Custodianship when the mother "suggested" that she wanted the baby back (when in fact, our daughter wrote an affidavit and power of attorney for me to take care of baby david's affairs, she told the courtthat she wanted our son to return to us, they ignored her completely. Now the case is transfered to another jurisdiction, we smell something awful here and we need assistance, we cannot afford an attorney, but birdman is helping with the Indian custoy issues. Please, we want our son back, our children misses him so much that our four year old son named his puppy, Baby David. Thank you guys for having us post. Bless you all. Ben and Daisy Henry

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All of the time...

All of the time I hear people say "I think if it comes to that I'll just go to Alaska and homestead."

Not 4 hours ago I did!

God please help these people. This is fornicatingly wrong man! This bovine feces can not be tolerated from those who serve US! I would say "String 'em from their scrotums!", but I do not believe in "Cruel and Unusual Punishment", however, it would feel good!

Pissed Off Patriot!

I didn't swear...

babydavidback

Welcome to our great state! Soon you will realize that the police state is very active here, especially in the villages. Their strategies are very deliberate and recently, a couple lost their baby boy due to drinking, but we did not see the Office of Children's Services take their children away! In our case, our baby boy got sick from "Water-Intoxication,not CPT-1A, as we fed him and he still threw up his food. In the meantime, he is grownig up without us and we really would like him back...we miss him. Thanks for posting. Banjo

Banjo

Something missing?

Why would they come to take the baby in the 1st place? It had to be because the hospital called them in. Did the hospital call them to report suspected abuse?

It is unusual that Children's Services would pick a stranger to care for the baby --- they normally try to pick blood relatives & family first to cut down on state costs, that way they don't have to pay fosters.

The hospital is not always right in these matters, but it would be more helpful to know why C.S. showed up.

Maybe the link below can help you out a little.

http://www.uslegalforms.com/ak/AK-P007.htm

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They took the baby from the

They took the baby from the hospital and from my family because they claim that my wife said that he was not fed for 36 hours, not true, he was not given similac for about a day and a half because he ran out of similac and also, he could not hold his food, as he was also fed baby food and soups that we cook, as in beef soup. The OCS agent came up with that 36 hours, noone else. Then, they found out that he might've been sick from "Water-Intoxication, as we fed him water and sugar when he ran out of similac that weekend. Now, they are backpeddling as fast as they can by disenfranchising us as "Indian Custodians" and transfering the case out of our hands and jurisdiciton. I hope I'm clear enough on this, thanks for asking. Banjo

Banjo

If anyone tried to take my baby, I guarantee I'd be in jail

And some cops and social workers would be utilizing hospital services. You should find out where he is and go take him. If anyone gives you any trouble, kick them in the face.

Fight Back

Mistake #1..you gave the child up without a court order...you shouldnt have done that....So they kidnapped your child..with your permission.
I suggest you find a lawyer who works with Constitutional law.
You also need to find the childs father..and have him demand a blood test in family court...When he is found to be the father he can sign his rights over to you...it needs to be done in a legal way..tell him if he refuses you will seek half of all the bills from the moment of birth till the day he was taken from you.
You need to file a complaint against the cop for taking the child w/o a court order.
You might need to go pro se and if so get a copy of Blacks Law and see what you need to do..just remember this..with every document you file..file a copy of the Constitution with it...when you go to court..make sure you have copies of the Constitution for yourself..each person on the other side..and the judge...and make sure they get it too. Your daughter also needs to file charges against them all. She still has legal custody?
Hope these links help you
http://www.fightcps.com/oldsite/states/alaska.htm

http://www.childcustodycoach.com/cps.html

http://kidjacked.com/

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My wife gave him up, she does not know how to read and write,

so she feared jail. My daughter is challenged, although she is on her own, we are trying our best, but they are too powerful. Thanks for responding. Yes, my daughter has legal custody, but what is legal? and what is lawful? This baby does not have a birth certificate or a social security number, so anything "legal" is out of the question. Thanks for responding. Banjo

Banjo

If

If what you say is true you need to go before a judge and ask them to show cause for taking the baby away and ask the question, Based on what authority to you kidnap a child who is NOT a ward of the state? If that does not work, I'd immediately file suit against the state and name CFServices in the suit and remember (a lawyer will steal your settlement money away from you).

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j bakers wife is native

are you christian?not a prerequisite but helps to get along with him,he loves jesus christ with all his heart,and so do I ! prayer and fasting is the MOST POWERFUL THING ONE CAN DO !

problem is they own your child if it is papered!

Birth certificates automatically give the states the legal ownership of chattle property and the mother of father had to sign what the "legal"profession calls an adhesion contract non negotiable agreement to where the state OWNS THE CHILD! they dont really own the human they only own the legal fiction"person"all cap letters in the name reps a corporation of which they registered a trust account called a cestui que trust and when people and children go through the"legal" system the courts and social workers get kick backs as we seen in PA with them judges.
If you are interested in learning how to retrieve your "property" you should come into Anchorage on sundays to our weekly Campaign for liberty meetings we are all over them scumbag lawyers and judges acting in color of law for eqity and not rule of law which they should !
Call our president he is a great guyand knows the system J Baker 907-744-3430 tell him killer sent you!

Therefore, "All Crimes Are

Therefore, "All Crimes Are Commercial...Banjo

Banjo

if he is papered!sorry cant fix the thread no edit button???

Blacks law dictionary is the only dictionary to use! 1-8

I used to own the third, 3

I used to own the third, 3 fourth editions, two fifth editions, 1 sixth and a seventh. Yes, Black's is the one to use, although some say it's corrupted. I have several types of legal dictionaries I use for certain purposes, but you will find the definition of CORPORATION very interesting in Barron's law dictionary. Thank you for the response. Banjo

Banjo

I'm glad you brought that up,

He does not have a birth certificate, not unless the state got it for him. We know he does not have one because we do know about the "chattel property" issue. We will call Mr. Baker, thank you.

Banjo

Sarah Palin and small government?? Hah!

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"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley

Sorry for your problems, hope you get the help you need!

Sorry for your problems, hope you get the help you need!

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Don't be sorry, Instead, help those who need help...

We appreciate your concern and we accept your apologies, but you don't have to be sorry for this, it's our bag andf we will carry it no matter what. Banjo

Banjo

With Devine Intervention, we'll be ok...

Banjo

Banjo

Was this baby conceived

through immaculate conception? You forget to mention the father's role.

Do you expect the Daily Paul audience to side with the mother without asking questions?

Tell us how she got pregnant. Was the father already married with kids? Why aren't the parents raising their son together?

He was born in a

He was born in a hospital...His father, according to officials, cannot be found. My daughter is slow, but she is working it out on her own, she is 23, single. The father is single, but they had split up prior to the babies birth.

Banjo

NFL "Player" - 9 kids by 9 moms

Read it for yourself:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/sports/football/12henry.ht...

Of course, the libertarians have nothing to say about this except that we should stay out of the bedroom. Well, bringing new citizens into this country has very little to do with the bedroom.

"bringing new citizens into

"bringing new citizens into this country" also has very little to do with anyone other than those new citizens themselves and their parents. While I'm sure it sucks to have a shitty dad and a slutty mom, that doesn't make you anyone else's responsibility.

Once government gets involved in such private matters, they will obviously try to 'limit their exposure' by determining who is 'fit' to have kids, and how they should be raised. Which inevitably ends with them sending in the thugs to steal children and condemn them to a life as government chattel, like what happened in the original post.

BUMP

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Does your daughter have

legal custody?Can she get him back?Is David in foster care now?

babydavidback

Yes she does, but they say on their report that she is incapable of taking the baby and that she has to go through parenting classes before they can even determine anything at this point. He is with a black lady in Fairbanks.

Banjo

Are there no legal aid offices in Alaska?

I thought every state had multiple free legal aid services. You may want to check and see. They should be able to help you and suggest an attorney who will not charge (at least that's the way it is here in Virginia).

The court offered us legal

The court offered us legal aid, but our observations tell us that it is state attorneys and we know how the state attorneys will help. They negotiate. We have sixth amendment of counsel, his name is Kevin Ramey, but the court says he's not a B.A.R. attorney, therefore, he cannot represent us. It is not about representation, we appeared in court pro per and sui juris, then we challenged jurisdiction, the court or state never answered our greivance on this issue.

Banjo

take "legal" aid get what they give you!

DON'T EVER GET A LAWYER