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Can we finally put 911 to rest , calling all debunkers.

For all those who don't question .

These following things are all proven and documented,

On september, 11th, 2001 Americas defenses were deliberately told to stand down. Documented and proven.

On september, 11th, 2001 3 steel framed buildings that were in total 267 stories fell to the ground in under a half a minute , documented video taped and proven.

On september, 11th, 2001 George Bush sat in a classroom reading a childrens book for 7 minutes after being told that America was under attack. documented, video taped and proven.

On september, 11th, 2001 George bush lied about seeing the first plane hit the tower. documented , video taped and proven.

On september, 11th, 2001 Mineta heard Dick Cheney instruct to not react to the imminent threat of the plane approaching . documented and video taped testimony.

On september, 11th, 2001 We were shown a plane crash into the twin towers that in no way resembled a united airlines passenger airplane. documented video taped and proven.

On september, 11th, 2001 We were told that a plane crashed into the pentagon yet in every picture shown there are no remnants of a 757 . documented , video taped and proven.

On september, 11th, 2001 We were told that another plane crashed into a field in shanksville yet when the news media got there they could find nothing of the remnants of a plane. documented , video taped and proven.

On september, 11th, 2001 were all told that Osama bin laden was the culprit ( amazingly they knew that same day ) , he was never officially charged with the crime for lack of evidence. documented and proven.

These things are all available on video tape. These things are all impossible to deny. These things all stand against the Official story of the events of that day.

There are so many more things but I wouldn't want to make the page scroll for a mile down.

If any of you still don't question the governments account of it just try to argue these few points that are indisputable and lets finally get to the bottom of this nightmare that caused so much killing find the real culprits and finally put this issue to rest.

I'm tired of it , It's just so silly. I'm pretty sure that none of you at this point believe anything that comes from the Media or the government. It's time to stand up, realize , and do something positive to fix this mess.

Waking up is a good start.



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You are hurting Ron Paul and his message

Truthers,

I don't know whether you are right or wrong. I would think that the neocons would have planted WMD in Iraq if they were evil enough to kill Americans on 9/11.

One thing that I absolutely know is that, by posting here and wearing Truther t-shirts at RP rallies, you give Ron Paul's detractors ammunition with which to attack him if his message becomes too powerful. As if the racist meme were not enough last time around.

If you care about Ron Paul and his message, then please exercise your right to free speech about 9/11 truth on a forum that is not associated with Ron Paul or his message. If you want to hurt Ron Paul, then keep doing what you are doing. Your choice.

‘Each individual is separated from others by a "taboo of personal isolation"...this "narcissism of minor differences"'
--Sigmund Freud

Is it just me or does it seem odd that you and the other guy

posting against this thread "h1ckman" have both been here for exactly 1 year and 19 weeks ?

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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Ron Paul's message is liberty.

That is a very large tent. Strict adherence to what Paul states publicly does not comport with the concept of liberty. He has his reasons for staying away from 911 and Ocit. I and many others on this board who support his message also believe both issues are crucial in the battle for liberty, and while exercising liberty, believe it our duty to incorporate 911 and Ocit in the overall liberty message.
Ps: Have you sent him one of these? http://www.scribd.com/doc/9124357/TICKETtxPaul ..................................................................................................
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
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Undo what Wilson did

so you couldn't answer the question ?

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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you never asked a question.

please delete this post.
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the onus is on anyone to show that these things are false

The question is simple ? can you prove that these things are false ?
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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You miss the point

If you care about Ron Paul, then please ask your question somewhere else. The Internet is a huge. Please stop hurting Ron Paul if you care about his message. Thank you.

‘Each individual is separated from others by a "taboo of personal isolation"...this "narcissism of minor differences"'
--Sigmund Freud

If I care about ron paul ? do you care about freedom ?

you will never have it until this lie is revealed and this country finally accepts that all the deaths of the last eight years were unjustified. The almost ten thousand americans and the million plus in the middle east that died for a lie.

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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MESSAGE TO ALL DEBUNKERS !!!

EAT 55 MINUTES!!!

55 MINUTES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

55 MINUTES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE PENTAGON WAS STRUCK 55 MINUTES AFTER THE SECOND TOWER ( WTC) WAS HIT.

JUST THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAIT, JUST THINK !!!!!!!!!!!!

THE WEALTHIEST, MOST TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED MILITARY IN THE WORLD HAD THE NERVE CENTER OF ITS MILITARY PROWESS ( THE PENTAGON) STRUCK BY A WAYWARD AIRLINER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!!!!! 55 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
AND THIS OCCURED 55 MINUTES AFTER THE SECOND WTC TOWER WAS HIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE PENTAGON WAS NOT HIT 5 SECONDS, NOR 5 MINUTES AFTER THE SECOND WTC TOWER WAS HIT.................
IT WAS HIT 55 MINUTES AFTER THE SECOND WTC TOWER WAS HIT

55 MINUTES ????????????????

YEAH 55 MINUTES...........

55 MINUTES IS WAY TOO LONG FOR OUR TRILLION DOLLAR MILITARY NOT DO RESPOND

DON'T WE HAVE TELEPHONES IN AMERICA?

DON'T WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED RADAR IN AMERICA?

DON'T WE HAVE NORAD?

DON'T WE HAVE THE FAA?

DON'T WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED SURFACE TO AIR MISSILE BATTERY STATIONS ALL ACROSS AMERICA???

AFTER THE FIRST TOWER WAS STRUCK, OUR MILITARY GOES ON ALERT

AFTER THE SECOND TOWER WAS STRUCK WE GO ON DOUBLE ALERT

YET STILL 55 MINUTES LATER , OUR PENTAGON WAS STRUCK????

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!

WHO BELIEVES THIS SHYT???????????????

WHETHER IT WAS A PLANE OR A MISSILE , IS IRRELEVANT

55 MINUTES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT OUR PENTAGON WHICH IS THE NERVE CENTER OF OUR MILITARY PROWESS IS NOT DEFENDED BY SURFACE TO AIR MISSILES??

DON'T CON ME

DON'T CON ME

DON'T CON ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

55 MINUTES ??????????

NAH, I CAN'T BUY IT

AND I WON'T BUY IT

EVER

AMERICA ISN'T THAT STUPID TO ALLOW A COMMERICIAL AIRLINER TO STRIKE SUCH AN IMPORTANT MILITARY INSTALLATION SUCH AS THE PENTAGON.............

THAT'S LIKE SAYING CRACK WHORES ROBBED FORT KNOX AND GOT AWAY WITH EVERY OUNCE OF GOLD........

ONLY MORONS WILL BELIEVE THIS STORY

PERILS OF KNOWLEDGE

PEACE

Nice rant. What is really sick is the majority of America

were watching these 110 minutes live and in living color, yet still don't get it, or do they? hmm

Holy Caps Batman !!

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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Okay -

Normally I can't stand your ALL CAPS USE, but this is good shite...

You know that if an off-course plane even ACCIDENTALLY flew over the White House space in D.C. or actually ANY MAJOR industrial/landmark site, the military would be all over that shite within MINUTES!

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Sorry but I have to believe the pictures that were released

My brother knows someone that saw the plane hit the Pentagon. It was a passenger jet. We have to let this go or we all look like fools. The idea that it was something other than a passenger jet is just disinfo to make the "truthers" look like morons. Concentrate on what can't be refuted. The pentagon being hit by anything other than a passenger aircraft is a waste of time.

Yeah, I know someone

who was sure they saw something too. Until they were PROVED wrong. I remember watching a study once on the memories of people. It was done on a classroom of students, whom were busy taking a test. They sent a guy in to snatch a purse off one of the students desk, and everyone one of the students were unaware this was a set up. The guy came in and snatched the purse and ran out the classroom door. The professor asked the students to recall what the guy was wearing, what race he was, ect. Everyone had a different answer! No one got it right! He turned out to be a she with a hoodie on.

If you watch a video called "the penta-con " you will listen to

lots of "witness testimony" and oddly most of it tells that the direction of the plane or whatever it was states a different flight path altogether. most of the testimony is from law enforcement . this is the film http://www.thepentacon.com/googlesmokinggun.htm
~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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funny how it's always a grapevine,

I know a guy who said ...................
there are physical pictures that document the whole day. no debris on the lawn , dogs found no bodies , the only remnants of a plane were too small to be a 757. more like a drone.

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Who can we trust to investigate?

Serious question. If the depth of corruption in financial institutions and all levels of government is as severe as it seems, I'm wondering how we get a truly objective inquiry with subpoena power.

Undo what Wilson did

I think the answer is

a citizens' Grand Jury.

the court cannot be american

people here are simply too brainwashed and dumbed down to jerry springer WWF levels.

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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How Many

different 9/11 theories are there anyways? You have real planes that crashed with the real people on them, empty planes with the people taken over beforehand, military planes, planes with missles, cloaked missles, holograms, infrared space beams, thermite, thermate, controlled demolition, squibs, no squibs, beam were cut, weren't cut. For such obvious TRUTH, seems no one can agree on what crackpot idea to go with.

9/11 was BLOWBACK, not an inside job.
"We were really brought down, and chaos was caused, by 19 individuals with box blades..We have to realize that our foreign policy has blowback to it." - Ron Paul

the question isn't how many theories ,

The question is how many coincidences. There were so many that I can't even think of them all.

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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Can you address the points made in the original post?

Or are you just trying to muddy the waters, and take pot shots?

I say the latter.

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truth or concequence

We are way beyond 9-11 at this point..We have bigger fish to fry...They are tanking our system....Get hold of yourself..
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Just one correction

What I have researched on the Pentagon crash did show parts of an aircraft all over the crash site. I would not push that issue to much it is hard to deny the picures of the parts. We need to focus more on the evidence that is absolutely irrefutable. The Pentagon crash doesn't reach to that level.

the crash debris that you mentioned were too small and too few

go look at the pictures of them again.

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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I have a family friend who was right by there when it crashed

They were on a school trip in DC and personally saw the wreckage from across the way. They were stuck in DC for like a week before coming back to CA.

While I think there are so many questions still unanswered, I personally feel that saying something other than an aircraft hit the pentagon is ludicrous.

There are plenty of witnesses out there.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

Doesen't mean the Bilderberg/CFR/Trilat didn't have something to do with it though...

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and how many

planes have you yourself crashed to know the debris field size?

9/11 was BLOWBACK, not an inside job.
"We were really brought down, and chaos was caused, by 19 individuals with box blades..We have to realize that our foreign policy has blowback to it." - Ron Paul

Okay yeah right ?

We've all seen plane crashes repeatedly shown to us on the news and in documentaries. the plane does not dissapear and leave behind a couple pieces . Plus if you understand that standard FAA protocol in the event of a plane crash is to collect all the debris and reassemble it in a hanger somewhere to ascertain the cause and collect evidence . Not one plane was retrieved that day for evidence. Interesting huh ?

~Mikael / Peace, love, Light and unity ~

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what crashed into the

what crashed into the Pentagon was a Global Hawk UAV

notice it's size in the wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RQ-4_Global_Hawk

the global hawk would also explain why the air defense grid did not activate as the UAV would have been seen as a 'friendly'.

I didn't just come up with the idea of it being the Global Hawk, there is evidence in the crash debris of a specialized tire and the engine of the Global Hawk.

Anyway Sentinel I love you man, and while 9/11 absolutely needs closure for everyone, there are bigger fish to fry right now.