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Am Con Mag: Great Piece on MARK SANFORD 2012

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Will Mr. Sanford go to Washington?

Michael Brendan Dougherty

Mark Sanford is easy to overlook. If Republicans need a champion in the Obama era, there are more colorful candidates than the South Carolina governor. He doesn’t play electric bass, or to the Religious Right, like Mike Huckabee. He has made no attempt to rewrite the GOP’s almost forgotten small-government playbook like Minnesota’s Tim Pawlenty or Louisiana’s Bobby Jindal. Though he is popular, Sanford seems incapable of playing a red-meat populist like Sarah Palin. He looks plain, his philosophy is old, and he has an elegiac demeanor that seems incompatible with electoral politics.

But unlike many other Republican politicians of his stature, Sanford recognizes that there are limits to ambition, that government treasuries are not bottomless, and that no ideology can captain the globe. If the promise of “hope” in the form of bailouts fails to revive the American economy, Mark Sanford will be the GOP’s most dangerous man in 2012.

In recent weeks, he has become the unofficial spokesman against Obama’s trillion-dollar economic stimulus plan. Other Republican governors like Arnold Schwarzenegger beg for more federal subsidies, but Sanford has threatened to decline large portions of the bailout, preferring not to bridle South Carolinians with the accompanying obligations. While cable’s talking heads shout at him, he somberly quotes Adam Smith and Friedrich Hayek. He worries aloud that the bailouts represent a “crisis of American civilization.”



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Sanford/J. Bush 2012

Sanford is the new Ronald Reagan. Fool me twice..

Ventura/Paul Indy
Ventura/Johnson Indy
Johnson/Paul GOP

Our last options.

Ventura 2012

that's the problem... how

that's the problem... how do we trust them? Even if Sanford continues to talk like a conservative, and even if he acts like one, rejects the stimulus funding, etc. how do we know he won't do the opposite later on?

Still, if it's him or Palin, Romney, Jindal, or Huckabee, I'd be willing to vote for Sanford and take my chances...

Look at a guy like Ventura

Look at a guy like Ventura or Nader. I disagree with as much as 35% of what Ventura says and 75% of what Nader says. Yet, I would vote for them because I TRUST them, and I trust them because they consistently hold positions that are politically damaging. I disagreed with at least 50% of what Ron Paul said before I jumped on board, but I knew I could trust him because he walked the talk. Sanford is on Strike 2.

Obviously Sanford would be the lesser of evils in the GOP primary, but I wouldnt want that blood on my hands in the general election.

Ventura 2012

Well, he's no Ron Paul...

Well, he's no Ron Paul... but if Ron Paul doesn't run again in 2012 and nobody new comes along, I would support Sanford.

If Johnson and Ventura dont

If Johnson and Ventura dont run, I might vote for Sanford in the primary but not in the general election. If only Ventura runs, I will NOT vote Sanford in the primary because he will take too many votes from Ventura.

Ventura 2012

but Ventura won't run in the

but Ventura won't run in the primaries because he's not a Republican, so it's impossible for Sanford to take votes away from Ventura.

If Sanford wins the

If Sanford wins the primaries....

Ventura 2012

There will never be another

There will never be another ron Paul. Ever.

Sanford is the closest thing I've found so far in the mainstream to my own beliefs. He is against pre-emptive war in Iraq and the initial invasion with Bushie's dad. Tell me what other Republican has said that as a legit governor? I don't know much about him yet so don't start labeling me a shill. It's a step in the right direction and I appreciate that, even if it's not 100% of what I want.

Ron Paul inspired 1.2

Ron Paul inspired 1.2 million Americans, and some abroad, to donate to his campaign, donate personal time to pass out literatute, paint our cars Ron Paul, rent a blimp, buy a full page ad in the USA Today, and e-mail the mass media. We Are Ron Paul. Any of us could be another Ron Paul. The majority of his supporters agree with him close to 100%. There will be some of us that will prevail into the spotlight in the future. We must keep marching.

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No Sanford for us

He's CFR and Bilderberg.


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Mark Sanford is NOT a Ron Paul Republican

Go to OnTheIssues.org and compare their positions:

Ron Paul - http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm
Mark Sanford - http://www.ontheissues.org/Mark_Sanford.htm

For a quick summary, scroll to the bottom of those pages and compare their VoteMatch quiz results charts...not even close.

EDIT - Chuck Baldwin comes closer: http://www.ontheissues.org/Chuck_Baldwin.htm

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

No, He's Not

Just another lesser of evils.

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

Promising candidate

Look, you can list off all the "Mark Sanford's no Ron Paul because..." items you want. No one is Ron Paul. We get it. I have a news flash for you: Ron Paul's not perfect, either.

We have to look at the big picture when it comes to a candidate, because there's no such thing as perfection. I'm NOT advocating voting for "the lesser of two evils." I don't go for that. But we have to evaluate where our threshold for "acceptablity" lies.

I urge all in the movement to respect where others choose to draw that line. Many people will see potential candidates like John Stossel and Mark Sanford as promising vehicles of change. Others will take a more "purist" approach and vote third party or write in Ron Paul ad infinitum. Heck, there are even some Ron Paul supporters who voted for McCain or Obama.

The important thing is to engage in constructive dialog, and not the politics of personal destruction. Don't make it your mission to destroy candidates like Sanford, Stossel, Barr, Baldwin, etc. All that does is divide us and weaken our voice as a movement. Dialog and persuasion is fine, but constantly spamming comment threads on various websites with "Barr is a neocon," "Baldwin is a zealot," or "Sanford backed McCain (how many prominent elected Republicans DIDN'T?)" is counterproductive.

Politicians are forced to think strategically sometimes. Ron Paul votes with the GOP on procedural roll calls not because he wants to, but because it allows him to maintain his committee assignments. He registers Republican not because he's in lock-step with the party, but because there's little chance of electoral success when one goes the third-party route. Similarly, people like Sanford have to remain on good terms with the party if they want to position themselves (and, by extension, their ideas) for the future.


"But we have to evaluate where our threshold for "acceptablity" lies. "

We can see where "acceptability" has taken us over the years.

"The credit expansion boom is built on the sands of banknotes and deposits. It must collapse.", www.mises.org

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

Only God can judge Ron Paul.

Only God can judge Ron Paul. He puts 99.99999% of humanity to shame. Ideologically I agree with him on everything basically and only disagree on some semantics.

Ventura 2012

Ventura 2012

He could be a born again....

Paulite but, I'd watch his deeds and actions first and determine where he really stands. He needs to accept Dr. Paul as the leader of the revolution and the Champion of the Constitution first. We've been hoodwinked before.

This is a problem

Sawyer says that Sanford thinks McCain will make a great president.

Sanford had been a state co-chairman of McCain's 2000 campaign in South Carolina.

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I didn't notice Sanford at the Campaign for Liberty rally, oh and then there's this.


"The credit expansion boom is built on the sands of banknotes and deposits. It must collapse.", www.mises.org

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

I like him a lot. He is a

I like him a lot. He is a real possibility for a Ron Paul Republican presidential candidate. This was a very good article.


Thanks for the post, bobbyw24