Ammunition in short supply
Saturday, March 14, 2009 at 10:52 a.m.
Local sportsmen and gun enthusiasts looking for ammunition are coming up empty handed, as a national ammunition shortage leaves gun barrels and shop shelves empty.
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“It’s scary when ammunition is sold out and you don’t know how you’re going to get any,” said Ben Fox of Santa Rosa, a disabled single father with three young children. “It’s nerve-wracking. It’s my home defense.”
Ammunition for firearms including pistols and rifles is exploding off store shelves in Sonoma County, where gun shop owners said they can’t keep bullets in stock.
The problem with ammunition is that “there isn’t any,” said Guy Markell, of Markell Inc, a Santa Rosa-area gunshop.
His ammunition stock is down 50 percent and his orders for more are not being filled by manufacturers. It’s hurting business and driving away customers, Markell said.
“When they see that there’s nothing, they walk out,” he said.
Various explanations have been given for the shortage, from rising material costs, increased demand due to military uses, and people stocking up as federal legislative proposals requiring ammunition to be engraved with a serial number move forward.
“Folks have been experiencing shortages all over the country,” said Rachel Parsons, spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association. “Since the election there has been a great increase in firearms sales as well. Background checks are up, enrollment in training and safety classes is up, concealed weapons permits are up, gun sales are up. And ammo manufacturers can’t keep up with demand.”
Major ammunition manufactures including Winchester, Glock and Colt did not return calls for comment and no information was available on their Web sites.
A spokesman for Federal Premium, based in Edina, Minnesota, another ammunitions manufacturer, said his company was not commenting on ammunition shortages.
A statement from the company, however, said there is an unprecedented demand for law enforcement ammunition and commercial and hunting ammunition demand is “strong.”
“But product availability is not an issue,” the company’s statement read.
While not all police agencies report problems stocking ammunition, the Sonoma County Sheriff’s Department does.
Sheriff’s Sgt. Rob Douglas said that availability and delivery are concerns.
“We’re still waiting on a bunch of stuff that was supposed to be coming in August or September,” he said of department’s ammunition order. “We have some empty shelves.” he said.
Empty shelves, however, have not influenced training or use of ammunition in the field, Douglas said.
Some sports shooters though have cut back.
Fox, who lost the use of his legs in a car crash four years ago and had to forgo old hobbies like camping and fishing, has dramatically cut back his time at shooting ranges.
“I used to go three times a week because it’s something I can do,” he said. “Now I have to hang on to what I have.”
Hunters are struggling, too said Tim Lockwood, owner of Lockwood Hunting Services in Windsor. “Pig hunters are having the most trouble finding the right caliber.”
While supplies typically run low at the end of the calendar year, lasting several weeks into the new year, this year’s shortage has been more intense, Tom Nelson said.
“I tell them that I’m out of stock,” Nelson said of his recent conversations with customers. “We try to find what we can and buy up whatever we can, but it’s been hard.”
Nelson said shoppers are infrequently surprised to see stocks so low: they’ve likely visited several of the other dozen gunshops in Sonoma County looking for the same ammunition. Or, they’ve driven even further.
“I drive to Nevada, stock up, buy in bulk,” Fox said. “But even there they are short.”
Among the most difficult calibers to find are pistol and home defense types, like 9mm and 45-caliber handguns, Nelson said. When ammunition is in stock, customers are buying several cartons more than they need to safeguard against future shortages.
That’s putting more pressure on what supplies are on the shelves.
“When we do have it, there are people who panic and don’t buy out of need but out of greed,” said Mel Helm, of Helm’s House of Guns.
With all Helm’s ammunition pushed to the front of the shelves, there are still large empty holes where bullets should be. Currently 26 percent of his orders are being filed by manufacturers, he said.
“It’s disappointment for a lot of people that come in,” he said, adding that the situation doesn’t look like it will improve any time soon.
“It’s going to get tougher every day,” he said.
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Ah...the NEW mafia is born. An Ammo War to replace the drug war
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There is ammo available if you work at getting it.
Walmart is a major retail supplier of a wide variety of ammo. I check the sporting goods department every time I go in to one of the three stores in my vicinity. The supply of pistol ammo is very limited. In the last three weeks I have seen one box of .357, a few boxes of .40 and no 45 ACP or 9mm. You can find home defense shotgun ammo like 00 Buckshot and rifled slugs, plus they have plenty of birdshot in the usual sizes they carry, most of which is only good for birds. As for rifle ammo, you can find 30.06, .270 and 30/30. There is no .308 available, but I have seen a very few boxes of .223, and 7.62X39. They have the higher cost .22lr and I have seen a few boxes of bulk .22lr. All in all the supply is quite limited and the prices have become very high for an economy is the tank. Every store I checked did have a few boxes of premium high dollar hunting ammo that nobody buys and some odd caliber stuff.
From what I hear the manufacturers are running a full speed, but imports are not coming in like they did. Some of this is a result of the credit crisis where international shipping temporarily ceased. This is more a demand driven problem than a supply problem.
What started it was Obama's election and fear of an assault weapon ban and other restrictions like high taxes on ammo and whatever other crap those in power could conjure up to limit the 2nd amendment. As the economy continued to tank, some people also bought out of fear of social unrest and fear of increased crime. And there are some buying because they think they see the government turning on its own citizens soon.
From what I hear there is very little ammo at gun shows and what there is carries a high price.
Those who have an adequate supply bought back when prices were affordable will tell you that foresight has value. Think about this if the shelves at your grocery finally are empty some day, after people have warned about impending food shortages. Better to be a few years early than a day late.
"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley
Your last three sentences contain the real lesson. For most of
last year (and before), I could get all of the free 45 ACP, 9mm and .223 brass that I could carry away (other calibers too) because people were just leaving it at the range. These days, there's not nearly as much to be found. Since the election the sources have been steadily drying up to the point where prudent conservation of existing supplies is required.
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I'm glad that the foreign ammo is limited and that most of it...
is American. The Europeans I believe do a good job, but when you need Ammo to work... I've been going with U.S. made.
Cordite (by weight)-
65% nitrocellulose
30% nitroglycerin
5% vaseline jelly
Required Materials:
- Cotton Balls
- Glycerol
- Sulfuric Acid
- Nitric Acid
- Vaseline Jelly
- Ice
(both sulfuric and nitric acid are available over the internet or in any chemical supply store)
Required Equipment:
- Glassware
- Thermometer
- Sink
Without going into too much detail, production of smokeless powder involves nitration (through sulfuric-dehydrated nitric acid) of glycerol to produce nitroglycerin and cellulose (cotton) to produce nitrocellulose. For succesful production a few things are required:
- Temperature must be kept low in both reactions (ice bath).
- The nitric acid must contain as little water as possible (hence dehydration with sulfuric acid)
- During production of nitrocellulose it is imperative that the cotton is as clean as possible. Cosmetic cotton balls are well suited to this purpose. After soaking the cotton in the nitric acid for roughly 20 minutes it should be removed, washed with water and left to dry.
- The final products must be carefully mixed. Once stabilized they are (relatively) safe but if stored as separate components utmost attention to safety (no sparks, flame or shock) must be taken.
NOTE: This is far from a comprehensive guide for production of propellant. I am not responsible if you blow yourself up.
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Look around your area for a reloading club. I cannot tell you
that they will sell you ammunition of course, but they may be able to put you in touch with someone who can make your shortage easier to live with until commercial supplies return to a more normal condition. I haven't been using any of my supplies for quite some time now because they're more difficult (and expensive) to replace.
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
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"An economy built on fiat money is a society on its way to ashes."
I have a recipe for making
I have a recipe for making black powder, anyone want it? All the stores around here have plenty of ammo.
Bryan
yep.
email it if you don't want to post it.
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I just returned from Bass
I just returned from Bass Proshop a couple of hours ago. I went to pick up 12 pounds of IMR 4064 and some .308 win brass and primers. Nothing. They had no primers, none, period. They had a couple of pounds of shotgun powder, no rifle or pistol powder. And extremely limited brass, no .308. Most of the brass they had was the high end brass that cost twice as much as regular brass. I didn't look at factory loads, but I know as a reloader, they didn't have squat.
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Guns don't work without the ammo. Try on-line?
Is that an option for everything but the powder?
powder & primers require a hazmat fee to ship
which makes no dang sense cause you can buy a whole round ready to fire and have it shipped for no haz-mat fee.
Thank you Dr. Paul for making me act on what I already knew was right.
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