Obama to charge Veteran's PERSONAL Insurance For Their Treatment
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The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment
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WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.
"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."
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Obama lies...
On March 17th, 2009 Bonhomme Richard says:
Presidential candidate, Barack Obama Embraces Crying Military War Veteran In Iowa
"We have to fund all the services that have been promised to our veterans," Obama said. "We can't play politics with it."
VIDEO >> http://www.metacafe.com/w...
OH MY FUC%ING GOD!!! CAN YOU PEOPLE REMEMBER
NOTHING???
We beat this. Don't you remember the phone calls and faxes? E-mails? Articles? Nothing?
And then there's the matter of not realizing that www bumped this old thread to spam the board. Holy crap. I live in the Idiocracy.
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Is It Me?
Does it seem to anyone else that the NWO and their puppets like Obama are becoming mad with their own power? Every where I go, and anyone I talk with (including the coolaid drinkers) are beginning to realize something is very wrong. Could this be the begining of the end for them? I was watching Fox (Boston) news this morning and they were talking about Cheney and the CIA, whether laws were broken and if they were should they be proscecuted. You would not have seen this on main stream news a year ago. I was listneing to something Daneil Estulin said, I can't remember where, but he was talking about the Bilderburg meeting, and said inside sources were saying they are getting very nervous because some of them think they went to far, to fast and their plan may be in jeopardy because people are waking up. Just my thoughts.
Obama....
...Is quickly turning into Karl Marx, and that's why all the states declared their sovereignty. We don't need nor do we recognize universal health care or any such trash!
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Obama lies...
Presidential candidate, Barack Obama Embraces Crying Military War Veteran In Iowa
"We have to fund all the services that have been promised to our veterans," Obama said. "We can't play politics with it."
VIDEO >> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1008047/barack_obama_embraces_...
The NWO Global Government scam:
Is based on a house of cards and shows itself outwardly
Audit the Fed
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They are trying to start a fight
what other reason could there be ? This is by far the most underhanded unpatriotic thing a president could do. This should disturb even the brainwashed.The man is evil at best, Possibly more so than Cheney
Article 99: A must see spoof of a VA hospital, post Vietnam.
I laughed so hard I cried !
Stars: Ray Liotta , Kiefer Sutherland (1992)
Trailer >> http://www.videodetective.com/titledetails.aspx?publishedid=...
Plot: The title Article 99 refers to a fictional legal loophole which states that American veterans cannot be treated in VA hospitals unless their illnesses are related to their military service. The pinchpenny administrator of a Kansas City hospital intends to follow this proviso to the letter, while his irreverent staff does everything it can to circumvent rules and red tape. When freewheeling surgeon Ray Liotta is fired for exhibiting traces of humanity, the patients stage a revolt. Playing a new medico, Kiefer Sutherland also stars. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide
Vet worried about Obama plan
Posted: 03/16/2009 09:38:03 PM PDT
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is considering making veterans use private insurance to pay for treatment of combat and service-related injuries.
The plan would be an about-face on what veterans believe is a long-standing pledge to pay for health care costs that result from their military service.
But in a White House meeting Monday, veterans groups apparently failed to persuade President Barack Obama to take the plan off the table.
"Veterans of all generations agree that this proposal is bad for the country and bad for veterans," said Paul Rieckhoff, executive director of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. "If the president and the OMB (Office of Management and Budget) want to cut costs, they can start at AIG, not the VA."
Under current policy, veterans are responsible for health care costs that are unrelated to their military service. Exceptions in some cases can be made for veterans without private insurance or who are 100 percent disabled.
The president spoke Monday at the Department of Veterans Affairs to commemorate its 20th anniversary and said he hopes to increase funding by $25 billion over the next five years. But he said nothing about the plan to bill private insurers for service-related medical care.
Few details about the plan have been available and a VA spokesman did not provide additional information. But the reaction on Capitol Hill to the idea has been swift and harsh.
"Dead on arrival" is how Democratic Sen. Patty Murray of Washington described the idea. " ... when our troops are injured while serving our country, we should take care of those injuries completely," Murray, a member of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee, told a hearing last week.
"I don't think we should nickel and dime them for their care."
In separate comments, Republican Sen. Kit Bond of Missouri said the nation "owes a debt to the veterans who fought and paid for our freedom."
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki said at the hearing where Murray spoke that the plan was "a consideration." He also acknowledged that the VA's proposed budget for next year included it as a way to increase revenue.
But Shinseki told the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee that "a final decision hasn't been made yet."
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good article
i'm not sure how you have a volunteer military, who is willing to put their lives on the line for the country, and then you spit in their faces like this. it would seem Obama thinks if you get wounded under a President's orders the President does not have to make sure you are taken care of now. Obama has been heard telling what gratitude our military is owed, and then he does this? where is the gratitude?
it was not that long ago that there was a big uproar over the VA's horrendous treatment of veterans and the very poor quality of care for them. Obama must have Alzheimer's to be able to think that no one will notice or care about this.
2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
What a shame...
Same story when I was in for many years, years ago...Piss on the cannon fodder. They've outlived their usefulness. So toss 'em! We've got better thing's to do with Americans money like rebuilding Gaza (which the Zionists' destroyed), Iraq, (which we destroyed and are now rebuilding), etc. Man, I hate our mafia government.
New News!: GIs are starting to refuse orders by Obama
G.I. in Iraz REJECTS Commander-in-Chief & there are hundreds more set to follow --says lawyer (references Taitz and Donofrio)
Tabloid News, but sometimes they DO scoop the MSM!
http://www.globemagazine.com/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2208024/posts
We need to tell anyone and everyone
about this. Especially active duty people.
I would love to tell this guy... "Hey a$$hole! You can save trillions upon trillions by simply ending the war like you led people who voted for to believe!"
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Semper Fortis
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Semper Fortis
Let me get this right...
They throw me in a meat grinder (several times), I get tore up, come home and get medical treatment, and now the very people who pushed me in say "no worries, we'll treat ya, but you owe us" ???
Nice plan, here's another... how about "PISS OFF"
Maybe ...
you weren't supposed to come home at all. Trying to reduce expenses and all. No sense in keeping a damaged product. Hard to recruit when young vets are in wheelchairs at the Memorial Day parade. Operation Draft and Disposal. (my conjecture of course)
There's been more talk of the draft in the MSM lately. I read an article in the Wall Street Journal recently discussing how 'we' may need it.
This makes me sick. About the ONLY thing this country should be spending more money on is vet health care. I salute you.
Maybe, maybe not.
In either case, all in the past now. I'm alive, still hookin' n' jabbin, so I don't complain. A lot of my friends and a few of my co-workers don't have that luxury, so I won't bitch. I used the VA just enough to take care of the cost to patch me up; there's guys out there that need it more than me, and I won't take what little resources the VA has away from the guys worse off.
However, I have two very close friends and are permanently disabled from similar combat injuries. If this plan of theirs goes through, it is going to affect my friends greatly. I don't take kindly to that.
It's like when you get the letter asking for your enlistment
bonus back.
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that happen to you, Mike?
heh...sorry, but i just had to laugh...oh, i guess nothing should surprise me anymore...
2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Like 3 weeks after AIT
They took it out of my taxes. Then gave me a deduction for it. Then counted the deduction as income and taxed me on it. So my $1500 enlistment bonus actually cost me about $500 bucks. I didn't care, I was there to see how it worked--I saw.
I still wonder why with all the advanced technology we had the weaponeer. Do they still use the weaponeer?
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yeah...
i don't know how you get a "volunteer military", under those kind of circumstances. maybe the active military guys will revolt, seeing the raw deal they are getting.
2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
George Washington said,
"The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional as to how they perceive the Veterans of earlier wars were treated and appreciated by their country." -- George Washington
Not to outsmart myself -
I have private insurance, and took out a $2,000.00 deductible after whatever Medicare won't pay; thinking the little stuff I'll have the VA do that isn't covered; although there is a $8-15-50 co-pay for me at the VA because, I opted out not to disclose income and net worth.
My question is, hell, whose to say veterans will opt to pay for private health care and just go to the VA ? They can't turn them away ! Well, they are not suppose to anyways. There are cases where they died in the parking lot not admitting them.
If I were to apply today, they would refuse me based on my ability to pay privately, which I do. I'm grandfathered so far. I hardly use the VA or would I. Not that the VA isn't a good 2nd choice, it is.
What's funny, when Obamy was my senator he was a VA care proponent for the couple hundred thousand Illinois veterans one year that were denied promised VA accessibility in Illinois. Never trust your Government or an Ivy League elitist president that never wore the uniform.
BTW, do you think if Obamy was ever drafted to go to Iraq that he wouldn't claim Kenyan or Indonesian citizenship ?
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I think this really shows
I think this really shows how bad a financial situation the government is currently in.
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so much for...
universal health care...now everyone except Veterans will get health care...
2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
unreal!
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2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
it's un American to Not take care of Veterans
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2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
It's no longer America it's AmeriKa
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over my dead body...
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2Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.