Capitalism Magazine article: Jesus or John Galt, whom should we follow?

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I find it unfathomable that Ron Paul, whom I admire for his positions in the realm of economics and Constitutional law and hold in high esteem for his character and integrity, does not appreciate the reasons for the importance of separation of Church and State.

During the days of the Inquisition a woman could be accused of being a witch by a neighbor who envied her. The woman would be stripped naked by the Inquisitors and if a mole were found on her skin, that would be considered proof that a demon had entered her body and that she was therefore possessed by an evil spirit and was a witch who must be saved by being tortured.

If that doesn't persuade with any of you, gentle readers, there are dozens of similar anecdotes to be found. The Church would find someone to be a heretic for not accepting a Church teaching or dogma and the Church would direct the State to carry out an execution or torture.

I know that none of us, regardless of our religious beliefs would resort to such behavior. But there are those who would and for that reason alone there ought to be complete separation of any Church and the State at any level.

That is why the First Amendment prohibits the establishment of a religion.

Think about it. Use your own judgment.

Wm

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#1 Jesus' teachings are extremely libertarian

#2 I search for the good in figures such as Jesus and John Galt and definitely do not need to be a follower of any one individual to the detriment of my personal soul growth. Do I need one figure to monopolize my personal teaching? Absolutely not.

#3 The acts of a specific church in no way speak to the teachings of Jesus, just as the actions of a specific follower of Objectivism speak to the leaders of that movement. Each is their own individual responsible for him or herself and his or her own actions.

#4 By following natural liberty-based political philosophy, it matters not who one follows in a spiritual sense, so long as they understand the non-aggression principle.

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flawed mentality

The first amendment prohibits the establishment of a State controlled religion as that was one of the reasons they left for the new country. But the founding fathers believed that the republic they created was only good for a moral and religious people. If you have any Bible knowledge at all you would realize that most of the so called christian denominations stray from the teachings of the scriptures in some form or another. This is the reason there are so many different types of denominations. They focus on certian parts of the scriptures that they agree with and disregard those they don't claiming that their understanding comes from the Holy Spirit. This does not mean that the Holy Spirit doesn't provide a deeper and more spiritual understanding, only if this understanding is in direct conflict with the initial premise of the word or other passages of scripture then it is false. In essence when you read a passage of scripture, take it under pretext of its literal physical interpretation. As you read more and reread previous passages through the Holy Spirit you will gain a deeper and more spiritual insight, but this will not change the literal meaning for if it does then those have not reached this deeper understanding will view you as a hypocrit. There are a few passages that are beyond the literal interpretation because there is no way represent the spiritual realm in physical terms. The point being do not base a bias against the teachings of Christ because of mans misuse and abuse of them.

What is described above...

...hardly sounds like churches truly modeled after Jesus.

So,

where do you see RP "establishing a state religion"?

I don't think you made your point.

<<<"where do you see RP

<<<"where do you see RP "establishing a state religion"?">>>

Ron Paul clearly believes the dogma, unproven but accepted as an article of faith, that when the sperm enters the ovum, that that fertilized ovum has a "soul."

Ron Paul has submitted a Bill before Congress to have unborn declared to a "person" with all the rights of a newborn baby.

That is what I mean by his imposing his religious beliefs on the rest of society, whether anyone agrees with his religious belief or not. That is the establishment of a religion which is explicitly forbidden in the First Amendment and Ron Paul purports to be the Champion of the Constitution.

It is a contradiction and there are no contradictions in the universe. Ron Paul cannot claim to be both a champion of the Constitution and advocate the establishment of his religion at the same time.

That is my point!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtNdYsoool8&feature=related

Wm

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged p731

You are so twisted up, it's unreal..

Murder is murder.
Religion is not an issue here.

Or is it your position that any moral issue is religiously based, and therefore we must have a totally amoral society in order to meet your criteria?

on the other hand

I'm a religious person and I appreciate the separation of church and state because I think the state would ruin religion. Which religion led Stalin and Hitler to do the terrible things they did? Ron Paul's position of limiting the power of the federal government to its constitutionally granted powers would prevent such abuse of power.

I don't think the founders advocated the separation for the reason you specify.

Sometimes people do really bad things, it isn't always religion that makes that happen.

I resent how so many try to assert that without strong central government the states behave badly, would not have gotten rid of slavery, etc. There is some belief out there that a powerful, ruling group needs to control the masses of people who would do bad things with their freedom and control the evil corporations. I really think the market allowing small companies to compete without the government showing favoritism to the big corporations is the way to keep their bad behavior in line.