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The SECURE VOTE Initiative - Updated

The SECURE VOTE Initiative
To Your Honorable Secretary of State and/or legislators:
Currently, the way electronic voting machines are being used, little or no accountability exists, so what can be done to secure the vote of the elector?
1. Pass a bill that mandates all manufacturers of voting machines used in this state to include in their machines open source software.
2. Printouts in triplicate.
3. A vote count sub-total of all candidates on the ballot, printed out prior to each elector casting their votes.
4. A vote count sub-total of all candidates on the ballot, printed out after each elector casts their votes.
5. The elector should compare the before and after slips and see if they adjust according to how they voted.
6. If any discrepancy shows up, the individual voting booth will be frozen; elector‘s #4 printouts are shredded; repeat #3 and #4 above.
7. The top copy of these paper trails are then the property of the voter.
8. The bottom two copies are archived by the precinct administrators.
9. These paper trails will assign each voter a unique tracking number.
10. After the poll closes, a precinct tabulator will compile voting sub-totals from all individual voting booths within its precinct.
11. A final summary sheet will be immediately printed in a numerical tracking number order and posted at the polling place (tabulator location) in full view for the public to witness and on a designated state website which is responsible for posting/archiving all primaries/elections/referendums.
12. Once the precinct totals become official, tabulator oversight needs to be made at each of the subsequent levels (county, state, federal) using #11 above mandate.
13. All county, state, federal tabulators must be made non-editable to their inputs.
14. Audit logs must have physical security: locks, alarms, tamper evident seals.
15. Audit logs may only be accessed in unison by certified, bonded, ethically sound individuals: 2 from each party on the current ballot; 2 not registered with any party.
16. Contesting the final vote count must be done within 12 hours of election closure by a valid candidate whose name is on the ballot.
17. Vote count recall must be initiated within 60 hours of election closure.
18. No board members nor employees of voting machine manufacturers, their subsidiaries, or owners can donate to any political campaign or political action committee.
19. Any person found guilty of illegally tampering with the vote count will receive an automatic life sentence without parole or pardon.

If each voter is diligent at reading their printouts, head counts are observed, and tabulator printouts are validated by each feed, voting accountability can be achieved in a most accurate and timely manner.

My thanks to the following dp contributors: samadamscw, rhino, liberty4us, ArmorOfChrist777, thomasgray, and H-daddy.




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NO NO NO NO NO A Thousand Times NO...

back to basics is the only way to go with the old style punchout cards with the manual machine where you slide the arrow up or down until it is pointing at your desired candidate and then push down the handle.

You get 2 ballots identically numbered, you stack them and punchout through both 1 is your receipt and the other gets tallied. This is a no brainer people and it's tried and true.

I don't want to hear about hanging chads either, we voted with these machines for decades and they worked well.

The ballots need to be hand counted at the precinct in full public view.

Screw electronic voting or voting from home, to much leeway for hacking and fraud.

This is an issue dear to my

heart...I am with Thomas on this one...

O.P.O.G.G. - Fighting the attempted devolution of the rEVOLution
Ron Paul 2012...and beyond
BAN ELECTRONIC VOTING!!

Hand counting is subject to human error, accidental or

by design. Read the entire initiative numbered line by numbered line. Zero in on where the flaw is in this system and we can discuss. Australia already has the open source code but still needs to implement paper trails which this initiative addresses.

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Seemed To Work Fine Forever....

you can push this all you want to but I for one want my paper ballot back. Screw all the ideas about receipts, live returns, going online to see your vote,and stick "open source code" where the sun don't shine. If it's computer based it can be hacked.

A true transparent count, at the precinct,in public, hand counted in plain sight, no tallying the votes elsewhere. What's so hard about that are you too afraid that a mistake might be made? Well recount the damn things until you get it right.Small price to pay every 2-4 years.

Awwww but I'll loose my precious beauty rest...tough, that's the price to pay to live in a free society.

(if you even manage to get anywhere with this I'll fight tooth and nail to stop it)

Once the votes are tabulated they are printed in the largest newspaper in each state county by county precinct by precinct and if there is any discrepancy we will know it and we will hold a non computer generated tally in our hands (the second numberd ballot that we stacked remember?)

We are really on the same side of the secure vote resolution.

I wish to clarify: You are promoting traditional transparent hand counting of the ballots. This is important where electronic voting machines (evm's) are not used. That's great. No conflict. I am trying to implement secure procedures where voters must use evm's. Since this is the direction every state is going, I believe active vigilance to state-of-the-art technology will ensure accuracy on par with hand counting.

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"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

My model has a few things that I did not mention earlier.

1. After voting you will get a receipt with a code. You can track your vote in real time, all the time, by simply logging on.

2. The data base should be public information. While you can still conceal exactly who people voted for (or not) the rest should be public info and easily accessible. Who voted and where they live. Voter rolls are already public info, it would just be adding a check mark to those that vote.

3. At the voting booth, you are asked if you wish for your vote to count in exit polling data and you can offer a carrot to participate, like a coupon to your local grocer. The grocer pays for this priviledge and the exit polling data could be sold ahead of time so that results can be seen in real time. Of course the actual results would also be in real time, but exit polling is so much more than results. And very valuable to boot.

4. You can have precinct, ward, district, region, state, and national sponsors. All revenue going to the state.

5. The exit polling revenue would go to the private company that manages the data base. The states can legislate how much info can be compiled and will be required to pay for the services based on the amount of data released. For example; the state pays nothing if all data is allowed to be collected and released and they pay a lot if no data is allowed to be collected or released.

6. Just because private companies manage the database, as long as it is open sourced and real time trackable, there is little or no risk for manipulation. The key is mandated transparency. And as a backstop, each state can have rules about how each precinct tabulates and publishes results right at the poll. This can be done completely independent or with some aid by the system.

7. The key to this new "open source" system was being able to indentify revenue sources without comprimising the integrety of the process. Hijacking the exit polling data and offering the ability for sponsorships was the key to making this model work.

8. As long as you make the system transparent, it will police itself. You have about 100 million people that vote. All you need is a small percentage of them to scroll through the data and report any suspicious data. You can even have a connected blog option to the data base so that if you have something you want to report you can do it right there for everyone to see as well as tell your local election board.

9. As per my post on the other thread, all software is open sourced and given away. Officials can download it and use already available hardware such as smart boards that they can borrow from the school districts as poll booths.

10. You already sign a roll when you vote so the worker can tag the roll with a carbon copy of the receipt that they give you. This is really the weak point in the system, but only if the state and the people still think secret ballots are important. If so, then those voting roll books will be the only way to attach the code to the actual voter with the exception of the voter him/herself. Without the roll book, you are just a number in the system and no one knows how you voted, they just know that you voted. The roll book would be able to attach an actual name to each vote. Personally, I don't really have an issue with that, but if a state does, then they will have to focus their security efforts on those voter roll books.

11. There is one additional issue that pops up using this system. Since the voter is given a code so that he can pull up his ballot at any time and see how he voted. The system can be used for vote buying. You can sell your code to a candidate or party so that they can make sure you voted the way they wanted you to vote. Personally, I would much rather see that money go to individuals rather than MSM in the form of ad revenue, but I can see how some people would not think this is a good idea. I am not sure, but I would bet there could be some safe gaurds built into the system to prevent this from happening. To be honest, I would bet that 99% of all races are won by the person with the biggest war chest, so who cares if that war chest goes to the voter or the MSM.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994

I believe what I have compiled here is secure, transparent, and

verifiable with paper trails in triplicate, physically secure memory cards, audits by certified, bonded persons, physical and website postings of election results. I am not in favor of exit polling practices because any results given before poll closings has the potential to influence not only the way an elector votes but also whether he/she votes at all.

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"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

The state can legislate the release of such data.

That can easily be done.

Having said that ...

Some states may want the data released in real time.

Not sure why this is always a hang up. As long as the information is accurate and not manipulated it would actually be a tool for the candidates to get people to the polls. It would actually ensure maximum participation.

And since the exit poll data would be directly tied to the cast ballot, it could not be manipulated.

Also, I agree with you that there would need to be stiff penalties for fraud. There is no doubt that most if not all fraud would be detected in this system. You just have to make sure the penalties are stiff enough so that people aren't encouraged to commit fraud even though they know they are going to get caught.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994

If a candidate hasn't convinced voters before the polls open

that candidate already lost.

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"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

The other benefit to my model is ...

that people could vote at home on their computer.

Since this model insures fraud detection, overvoting could not be used as a tool to manipulate the totals.

Again, that can only be insured if there are stiff penalties for fraud.

Having said that ...

if you are allowed to vote at home, there would have to be safeguards in place. One way to do this would be to give the voter a limited window to vote at home. Make the process a little time consuming and difficult to execute unless you are who you say you are and then only give the person 30 minutes to vote or they would have to go through the process all over again.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994

Much as I would like to vote at home, I would be unable to

obtain before and after sub-totals as when voting at the local precinct. These sub-totals are crucial in showing running numbers in the vote process and confirms each selection you make on the ballot. If you don't agree with the tally because of machine or personal error, reset to #3 and revote the ballot. btw your unique tracking number is in the system all the way to the final tabulator point and can be verified by you at any tabulator location via your state's website which archives the election results.

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"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

I tend to agree with you on that one ...

but why put limitations on every state.

Let the states experiment with the process.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994

Exactly. I am trying to get anyone who's interested, to send

a copy or facsimile of this initiative, to their secretary of state and any state legislators for feedback. Each state will decide how they will implement the initiative. I encourage you and all others reading this thread to either send it
'as is' or modify the initiative and then send it off. And then report your findings here at dp.

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"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

I had lunch with SOS about this issue.

The open source idea is one that is working its way through the system, but let me quote him ...

"That idea is revolutionary, but the states tend to prefer to evolve."

It will be an uphill battle.

What needs to be done is for a company to set up a demonstration.

And for that to happen a company needs to see dollar signs, hence, my model of hijacking the exit poll data.

WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994

I read on wired.com that Austrailia already has implimented

an open source voting system which lays out the entire software listing on both the internet and in the newspaper. Very transparent and upfront. I wander if any Aussie dper's can verify this?

Support: http://www.committeesofsafety.org/ http://wethepeoplecongress.org/
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Love (consciousness) is in everything including the void.

"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner

Here's your link:

http://www.wired.com/print/techbiz/media/news/2003/11/61045

Support: http://www.committeesofsafety.org/ http://wethepeoplecongress.org/
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Love (consciousness) is in everything including the void.

"Be wary of those who know the truth. Align yourself with those who are questing for the truth." L. Gardner