To All the obama fan club members who refuse to accept the facts.READ THIS !!!Submitted by Jdayh on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 09:33
THIS THREAD IS DESIGNED SO THE confused PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR OR WHO SUPPORT Obama will realize they are supporting a Felon, a criminal, and an Usurper of the office of the Presidency. The following will shed light on their illness..allowing their mind to (perhaps) heal....
For all of you BO people who are too damn lazy to do any real research.. and just want to fling names..and condemn people like “Dr.” Taitz (the Lawyer representing Ambassador Keyes) who is standing up for the RULE OF LAW, and the Constitution... read the following..and do your own homework.. (unless of course you hate America and the Constitution)
Let's all be honest about this: Obama's fan club refuses to accept the facts.
The facts are:
a) Obama's publicized image of "Certification of Live Birth" is not a Birth Certificate
b) it is not a "certified copy" of a Birth Certificate or of a "part thereof".
How do I know?
The same way you can find out for yourself providing
a) that your head is not buried too far in the sand to hear the sound of reason and
b) that you have a phone and can make long distance phone calls: simply phone the Hawaii Department of Health Vital Records Office (like I did at 2:20pm, March 9 2009) at (808) 586-4542 during regular business hours and ask this question, "If I were to qualify to request a certified copy of a Birth Certificate on file, what would the certified copy say in the document title?" And he or she will answer, "Certificate of Live Birth". Then you can even ask "Was this the same for 'certified copies' issued in 2007?" And then you will know that Obama's document, whatever it is (if it is authentic at all) is not a "Certificate of Live Birth" or a certified copy of a portion or entirety of a Birth Certificate on file under [DOH statute] 338.13. It does no good citing the Obama document as evidence somehow for its own authenticity! So phone the Hawaii Department of Health Vital Records Office and ask the question. Here's the website with the phone number at the bottom in case you don't believe me that it's the correct phone number for that office: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_r...
Go ahead. Try it.
Let me lay the issue out for the consideration of all:
1. We know that Obama has a birth certificate on record with the Hawaii DOH. The DOH Director, Fukino, has verified that.
2. We know that the FactCheck / DailyKos image (whether a forgery or not) claims Obama's birth place as Honolulu.
(To see a video that explains the obvious forgery of his publicly released BC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE
to see a copy of his supposed BC click here http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate?fc_c=1...
and to see what a real Hawaii COLB looks like click here http://www.humanevents.com/images/3p/200903/colb.jpg?fc_c=13...
3. We know that his grandmother and the Kenyan Ambassador have claimed that Obama was born in Kenya.
4. What I want to know--and I believe many Americans including military personnel have a right to know--is whether or not Obama's original (on file) birth certificate,
a) lists the place of birth as a foreign country,
b) lacks any mention of a hospital in which he was born or of an attending physician,
c) if there is any other official "attendant" listed as present at Obama's birth other than his parents.
Hawaii DOH 338.5 provides for a birth certificate to be filed, in the absence of any official attending personnel (e.g., a doctor or nurse), on the testimony of just 1 parent. The overall question here is whether or not Obama is a "natural born citizen". The question is not whether Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate or even whether Obama is currently a citizen (wouldn't that be a shocker?). If it turns out that his original birth certificate does not list a hospital, an attending physician, or any official attendant besides one or both of his parents, then presumably a Court or Congress would need to deliberate on whether such documentary evidence is sufficient to prove "natural born" citizenship. In other words does Obama's birth certificate really say he was born in Honolulu? If so is it verified by any official attendants or is it only on the word of his mother or father? As has been covered on http://f2a.org/coast2coast/obamacitizenship.htm some people hypothesize that Obama's mother could have returned to Hawaii shortly after Obama's birth in Kenya and filed a birth certificate with only herself or her and Obama Sr. as witnesses. This hypothesis is only an hypothesis, but it deserves to be tested.
The reason there is sufficient reasonable doubt in the case of Obama's "natural born" citizenship is that
a) his Indonesian school records list him as an Indonesian citizen,
b) he travelled to Pakistan in 1981,
c) his grandmother and the Kenyan Ambassador claimed he was born in Kenya and Gov. Richardson said he "is an immigrant", and d) what he released is NOT a real "certified copy" of a Birth Certificate, which, according to an employee of the Hawaii Department of Health Vital Records Office in a phone conversation at 2:20 p.m. Monday March 9 2009, would be titled, "Certificate of Live Birth" and not "Certification of Live Birth" (as the alleged COLB on FactCheck reads). To see a video that explains the obvious forgery of his publicly released BC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE
One more KEY POINT......
The obvious forgery of Obama claimed Birth Certificate
His father's RACE is listed as AFRICAN, Which was never a legal RACE description on any government documentation in the 1960's. His race would have been Negro or colored. Up until 1968, the standard term for all Africans was "negroe". This fit with the absolute secular scientific teaching of the day which notes the world has 3 races in Mongoloid, Caucasoid and Negroid. It was not until the late 1970's when political correctness came into vogue that it ushered in by the 1980's the term "African" to describe all blacks.
CARE TO EXPLAIN THIS ONE ANYONE???? (please use your head.. and give me an intelligent answer...)
IF ANYONE HAS A MORE CONCISE WAY OF EXPLAINING THIS PLEASE POST IT...