Submitted by radiofriendly on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 00:19.
He said, "Easy Money."
That was brilliant. Did someone get him some
advice? That changed everything. Start with a
sound bite that everyone can understand. That
even helped me to know how to articulate this.
Submitted by ecjonnyboy on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 22:48.
Even though they did try to smear him, I still think this was one of his better performances to date in front of the MSM cameras. He explained his position (AKA the correct position ;-D) in a clear and concise manner that I thought was simple enough for your average sheep to comprehend. Especially his explanation about the good assets of bankrupt corporations being bought up once they are allowed to fail. If he focuses on explaining why bailouts are lunacy and why letting the bad corporations fail makes far more sense because recovery will come quicker, sheeple might finally start to "get it". Want them to come to our side? Get them THINKING! Isn't that how YOU got here?
That was my one complaint about our man Ron during his campaign was that he didn't explain things well enough for the average Joe to understand. *SIGH* If only Mike Gravel was a Libertarian. Sorry Ron. I love ya, but Gravel can serve up one HELL of a verbal beat-down in those debates! You were just too nice for your own good I'm afraid.
Submitted by cowboy1165 on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 21:44.
Thank you for being on FOX business again Congressman Paul. Will you ever forgive us for condemning your run for the presidency. We know we called you fringe, long shot, and lead the people watching our program astray, while laughing at your proposals to fix our fragile republic...Ok, did I go to far in making her sound intelligent? Or was it that they would apologize?
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson
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All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson
Submitted by pawnstorm12 on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 22:48.
I knew all along he was the ONLY honest and truly econimically knowledgable candidate.
But the Federal Reserve would have killed him right away anyway.
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"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
More people are going to hear the only sane voice in town.
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Submitted by We the People on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 17:03.
Fox News is a master of propaganda and deception.
Think about how the above lead-off statement sounds to the average uninformed American that has been told their whole life that America is founded on the Free Market and Capitalism. Will they understand much more of what Ron Paul is saying, or will they immediately curse him and ignore the rest?
Submitted by pawnstorm12 on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 22:50.
I could not believe my ears.
Is that woman REALLY that stupid???
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"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
Submitted by trembo slice on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 19:22.
while i agree that Fox News sucks, i think Fox Business is decent (as Flame said). RP could have worded it a bit better, but i believe any thinking person can understand what was meant.
im not trying to attack you, cause believe me in my college classes i hear professors claiming that America is a capitalist, free-market country still - college educations are worthless.
the tide is turning, RP is gaining credibility with more and more people. im not worried as much about people trying to twist his words, im more worried about an attempt on his life. there is a history of killing influential, peace promoting truth spitters in this country.
Submitted by trembo slice on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 19:41.
there is a well-placed distrust of the media and Fox News. however, anytime the good doctor is treated fairly and with respect - i think we should be nothing but pleased.
i think discrediting him is out of the question at this point. as times get worse people (hopefully) will start looking for answers themselves, and there is too much RP material out there to twist his message.
That's Dr. Paul's words. What he meant was that the free market was prevented from working. For all we know, that's what she understood that he meant and what she meant as well. I don't see any deception there.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
The free market wasn't working. That's a true statement. Government was preventing the free market from working.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
____________________________________________
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
Submitted by IMissLiberty on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 17:27.
Clarity of speech is a highly prized ability in the press and in politicians, but nobody's perfect.
Certainly not Dr. Paul. If they wanted to smear him (why?), they'd have had her say that, and not let him on the show. All her other warm responses seemed completely genuine.
We should pick our battles, and this doesn't seem like one of them.
Submitted by We the People on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 17:47.
Neo-Conservatives have always been smearing Ron Paul, and Fox News is Mostly Neo-Conservative.
Now, that's not to say we should avoid Fox News, but we should always be aware of what they are doing so that we can turn the tables on such tactics and use them to our advantage.
For example, when the reporter announced that Ron Paul had said that the Free Market and Capitalism were not working, the very best thing he could have started off with is by saying the opposite -- that he completely believes in the Free Market and Capitalism, and then go on to say that we didn't have any.
Neoconservatives are not free marketers. Neoconservatives by definition are for a welfare state and government intervention to cure market failure. Fox Business is the most pro-free market channel ever in history.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
has only changed their tune on the bailouts since a Democratic administration took the White House. OReilly and those guys were all for the bailouts and intervention when Bushy wanted them.
In order to keep their jobs, they have to stay in tune with the viewing audience. They're not going to be supporting bailouts, because people are going to change the channel to view people venting about the bailouts.
For a news network to be successful, it can't be static holding the same views as the audience changes. The market drives the news and who is hired to report the news.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
—
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
of Republicrat vs Republicrat in an ongoing, tit for tat game of one-up-man-ship.
The viewers tune in for the opposite of what the other is saying.
That's all that is going on.
but they are trying to serve a different market segment with that channel.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Submitted by BmoreBrawler on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 22:35.
Well, theyre all socialist and Faux is the only nationalist one, sooo....
but you're right, Fox Business is a lot better that CNBC at least and they have been having Dr Paul on a lot. While CNBC has the seemingly more "intelligent"(used loosely) anchors, at least on Fox you get the guests point of view more than the anchor propaganda.
You apparently think it's part of some shadowy conspiracy. All they're trying to do is make money, by appealing to the free-market crowd. The last thing they want to do is to upset free marketers.
You're saying something about not making the deception obvious. That WOULD be obvious deception, what she said.
Man, your media conspiracy theorism is out of control and is going to make you crazy if you're not already there.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Wow! Stop the Tape!
He said, "Easy Money."
That was brilliant. Did someone get him some
advice? That changed everything. Start with a
sound bite that everyone can understand. That
even helped me to know how to articulate this.
Keep it up, Dr. Paul.
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I'm glad she called him "Sir" - all the media should be so
respectful.
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One of his better interviews
Even though they did try to smear him, I still think this was one of his better performances to date in front of the MSM cameras. He explained his position (AKA the correct position ;-D) in a clear and concise manner that I thought was simple enough for your average sheep to comprehend. Especially his explanation about the good assets of bankrupt corporations being bought up once they are allowed to fail. If he focuses on explaining why bailouts are lunacy and why letting the bad corporations fail makes far more sense because recovery will come quicker, sheeple might finally start to "get it". Want them to come to our side? Get them THINKING! Isn't that how YOU got here?
That was my one complaint about our man Ron during his campaign was that he didn't explain things well enough for the average Joe to understand. *SIGH* If only Mike Gravel was a Libertarian. Sorry Ron. I love ya, but Gravel can serve up one HELL of a verbal beat-down in those debates! You were just too nice for your own good I'm afraid.
Thank you for being on FOX
Thank you for being on FOX business again Congressman Paul. Will you ever forgive us for condemning your run for the presidency. We know we called you fringe, long shot, and lead the people watching our program astray, while laughing at your proposals to fix our fragile republic...Ok, did I go to far in making her sound intelligent? Or was it that they would apologize?
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson
I never condemned him and his campaign...
I knew all along he was the ONLY honest and truly econimically knowledgable candidate.
But the Federal Reserve would have killed him right away anyway.
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
here is a digg to add to the post above
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Ron_Paul_on_Fox_3_24_09_CA...
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That was great
More people are going to hear the only sane voice in town.
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"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6
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The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22
"Ron Paul Declared the Free Market & Capitalism Weren't Working"
Fox News is a master of propaganda and deception.
Think about how the above lead-off statement sounds to the average uninformed American that has been told their whole life that America is founded on the Free Market and Capitalism. Will they understand much more of what Ron Paul is saying, or will they immediately curse him and ignore the rest?
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
I caught that too...
I could not believe my ears.
Is that woman REALLY that stupid???
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
She Doesn't Write the Stories - Just Reads Them.
It was the writer that sat down and intentionally wrote that title.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
take a deep breath, exhale, and count to three
while i agree that Fox News sucks, i think Fox Business is decent (as Flame said). RP could have worded it a bit better, but i believe any thinking person can understand what was meant.
im not trying to attack you, cause believe me in my college classes i hear professors claiming that America is a capitalist, free-market country still - college educations are worthless.
the tide is turning, RP is gaining credibility with more and more people. im not worried as much about people trying to twist his words, im more worried about an attempt on his life. there is a history of killing influential, peace promoting truth spitters in this country.
I Just Want Everyone Here to be Aware.
No deep breathing needed by me.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
haha good to hear
there is a well-placed distrust of the media and Fox News. however, anytime the good doctor is treated fairly and with respect - i think we should be nothing but pleased.
i think discrediting him is out of the question at this point. as times get worse people (hopefully) will start looking for answers themselves, and there is too much RP material out there to twist his message.
"The free market wasn't working"
That's Dr. Paul's words. What he meant was that the free market was prevented from working. For all we know, that's what she understood that he meant and what she meant as well. I don't see any deception there.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
If You Don't See the Deception of a Misstated Summary...
Then it was effective on you.
The very best thing Fox News can do for themselves, is get everyone watching, yet change nobody's opinion.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Of Course
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
It wasnt misstated.
The free market wasn't working. That's a true statement. Government was preventing the free market from working.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Yes, You Did Miss the Point:
For someone already aware that we have not had a free market, as apparently you believe, it appears to not be misstated.
However, for others, especially those that don't support Paul, or that believe we had a free market, it comes accross as exactly what it sounds like;
Ron Paul Declares the Freemarket and Capitalism Weren't Working.
The word "declares" is a good hint of the writer's intention.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Yes, Without Context It Sounds Like Barack Bernanke
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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
_____________________________
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels
I disagree
Clarity of speech is a highly prized ability in the press and in politicians, but nobody's perfect.
Certainly not Dr. Paul. If they wanted to smear him (why?), they'd have had her say that, and not let him on the show. All her other warm responses seemed completely genuine.
We should pick our battles, and this doesn't seem like one of them.
IMissLiberty
IMissLiberty
When Smearing is Obvious, it's Not Effective.
Neo-Conservatives have always been smearing Ron Paul, and Fox News is Mostly Neo-Conservative.
Now, that's not to say we should avoid Fox News, but we should always be aware of what they are doing so that we can turn the tables on such tactics and use them to our advantage.
For example, when the reporter announced that Ron Paul had said that the Free Market and Capitalism were not working, the very best thing he could have started off with is by saying the opposite -- that he completely believes in the Free Market and Capitalism, and then go on to say that we didn't have any.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Fox is not neoconservative.
Neoconservatives are not free marketers. Neoconservatives by definition are for a welfare state and government intervention to cure market failure. Fox Business is the most pro-free market channel ever in history.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
-------
The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
FOX
has only changed their tune on the bailouts since a Democratic administration took the White House. OReilly and those guys were all for the bailouts and intervention when Bushy wanted them.
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
Think of it in terms of marketing.
In order to keep their jobs, they have to stay in tune with the viewing audience. They're not going to be supporting bailouts, because people are going to change the channel to view people venting about the bailouts.
For a news network to be successful, it can't be static holding the same views as the audience changes. The market drives the news and who is hired to report the news.
-------
9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
-------
The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
I just think in terms
of Republicrat vs Republicrat in an ongoing, tit for tat game of one-up-man-ship.
The viewers tune in for the opposite of what the other is saying.
That's all that is going on.
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
"Tyrants fear nothing more than insubordination"
"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"
And the Channel on Basic
And the Channel on Basic Cable, Faux News Channel is the most National Socialist channel in history.
Ventura 2012
I don't think so
but they are trying to serve a different market segment with that channel.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul
Well, theyre all socialist
Well, theyre all socialist and Faux is the only nationalist one, sooo....
but you're right, Fox Business is a lot better that CNBC at least and they have been having Dr Paul on a lot. While CNBC has the seemingly more "intelligent"(used loosely) anchors, at least on Fox you get the guests point of view more than the anchor propaganda.
Ventura 2012
You Missed the Point.
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
A fair report would have started off with stating a summary of exactly what Ron Paul had to say;
"Ron Paul says we HAVE NOT had a Free Market or Capitalism for Decades."
Afterall, a title is supposed to summarize the content. If it does not, then it is deceptive, as in this video.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
The point is you think Fox is something that it's not.
You apparently think it's part of some shadowy conspiracy. All they're trying to do is make money, by appealing to the free-market crowd. The last thing they want to do is to upset free marketers.
You're saying something about not making the deception obvious. That WOULD be obvious deception, what she said.
Man, your media conspiracy theorism is out of control and is going to make you crazy if you're not already there.
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9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! 9/11 was blowback! Not an inside job!
-------
The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul