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Weather Modification

So I did some research in the past couple hours. I would first like to say that I only made this thread because I was attacked in the other one ( I didn't post the other thread, I just replied.).
First I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf1E_r0tJLk

I paused it when the tail # was visible, which is at around 2:05

The tail # is N5359P

Google came up with plenty of results; including a report that can be found here:
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:YHf63ZmaVckJ:www.pgcd.us...

"To provide adequate coverage of the Target Area with minimum response time to potential seeding candidates, two air-
craft were used. Both aircraft were single engine Piper Comanche (N5359P and N6498P) which were used for base seeding only.
The planes each carried two burn-in-place (BIP) flare racks, each holding 12, with one side holding 40-gram and the other side
holding 75-gram silver iodide flares. Piper Comanche N6498P was based at the Amarillo International Airport, Amarillo, Texas,
throughout the seeding season, and Piper Comanche N5359P was based at Panhandle-Carson County Airport, Panhandle, Texas,
throughout the seeding season. "

I then found the aircraft on the FAA
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbert...

Type Registration Government
Classification Restricted
Category Weather Control

So anybody want to prove me wrong?



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the only good

thing weather modification has done is bring over 60 inches of plowable snow to Boston. Although I hate it this has helped my economy. No snow no $ for me.up Good research though ( ridethedirt). Heavy trails up here today

I think

this is the big secret that they are covering by keeping the economy in such horrible shape. Sure they had a purpose for the economy, but while they were taking care of that sinister plot, they are sneaking in another without most people noticing or saying anything.

Chemtrails are good for you. Or they don't exist.

Just don't look up. Parkman's right, Ron Paul would never be upset if we were all being sprayed unwillingly. We should honor our lord and master by only discussing those matters which he tells us are approved for discussion. I have never heard him say "chem" or "trail", therefore they don't exist. Ron Paul is the greatest human being who has ever walked the planet, we must never forget to accept only his immaculent wisdom. Dr Paul, if you happen to read this, I think you know where I'm coming from. It's not disrespect towards you, it's a strong passion against hero worship.

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Weather as a Weapon;


Our federal government started working on using weather as a weapon over a decade ago:

http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf


Ron Paul's Convention Speech

Almost


It was actually developed by military scientists. Only later, were there congressional hearings about this. Congress said OK.

Congress said---ok?

So, are you saying that everyone in Congress actually knows exactly what the chemtrails are?? Because, they say they don't. FAA doesn't know what they are either. :)

Weather Modification and Chemtrails are completely different.


Weather modification was developed by the U.S. Navy, some years ago, in an attempt to bounce radio signals off the stratosphere, so they could communicate with ships at sea. The curvature of the earth prevented this from happening easily. As a result, using the new 'nanotechnology' it was found that - while successful - that the clouds were affected. This was further researched and that weather could be modified by various types of radio signals. As well, the HAARP array in Alaska is capable of disrupting the ionosphere to change weather patterns in a very aggressive and interesting way. Some even went so far as to say that hurricanes, once begun on their own, could be 'enhanced' by nanotechnology and then 'steered' toward a destination. Some of these people (scientists) appeared on the Art Bell Show and insisted that Hurricane Katrina was deliberately steered into New Orleans and the nearby areas.

It was further speculated that the Russians and the Chinese also have weather modification technology.

Do I believe it? I don't know. But it is a fascinating topic. You can look up 'nanotechnology and weather' on Google. You'll find plenty.

Chemtrails are a different matter. Usually C-130s are used at high altitudes and there is wide speculation about the 'particulate' that is released from the tanks. Some insist it's Barium Sulfide, which can cause clouds to form; or other, more sinister, chemicals. Thing is, there is not much hard data to say exactly what is being dumped into the atmosphere. Or, if there is, then I have not seen it.

Why would they seed

clouds here in Seattle where it rains a LOT?

It's pretty much like that here

only with the purpose to make it rain, we are having an ongoing drought going towards a decade now. It's more like make it drier than dry so people have to vacate this whole state.

A question for everyone who is saying chemtrails are just contrails.

Why would they not come clean about these spraying activities if there was nothing to it?

Consider there may be

Consider there may be nothing to come clean about.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

Possibly because you have

Possibly because you have mistaken cloud seeding for something else?... namely contrails?
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

I missed the other thread...

I'm one of the guys who typically debunks the chemtrail stuff here.

However, I don't see anything to debunk. Cloud seeding is a well documented and understood phenomena... as that video showed.

Where I start to take issue is when people claim that a contrail in the sky is some sort of evil plot to spray a chemical onto the populace for an untold purpose.... especially when this claim is based on poor science or conjecture.

But, I see nothing in this post to prove wrong... ?

You never proved me wrong chap.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how at 13,000 feet with low humidity in AZ contrails can linger? OH that's right... THEY CANT

Find out if you have a local militia - http://www.uaff.us/

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Oruval..

when you admitted that you pulled the 13,000 feet number (which was actually 10,000, last time we talked about it Mr. Revisionist-history) out of your ass using your "calibrated eyeball altimeter", I gave up on having any sort of rational discussion with you.

You do realize that you are basically saying that clouds can't exist, right?

You really should have given

You really should have given up on him earlier... I'm not alone in that sentiment.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

Thank you

"However, I don't see anything to debunk. Cloud seeding is a well documented and understood phenomena... as that video showed"

It is not very well understood by some people. I have read so many responses that claim weather modification is not real. These people need to do their homework.

So is fishing "understood" . . . with emphasis on "under" . . .

and now the oceans 90% extinct.
Secrecy is tyranny, like Monsantos "overspray" of toxins becoming imperialistic road kill to all living things and creatures, including bees and fragile plants.

Toxin road kill is purposely buried and lies prevail,
. . . . . and are not documented and understood phenomena.

Aluminum ore in the ground is one thing, a "nano" sized metal can become extremely damaging in a fragile eco system.

Why cause rain, when you're just poisoning things out of existanc

Poison is an industry that must come to a screaching halt.
I offer that we don't need chemtrails with anything that is toxic.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

I agree completely

I don't like those idiots spraying absurd amounts of chemicals into my air. I think it is really arrogant for these people to claim they know everything that will happen as a result from these activities.

This is why I made this thread. If people want to voice their opposition to control of the weather, they should be able to.

Butterfly

Weather modification just makes me think of the butterfly effect.

Could it be described as atmospheric modification? Could this result in a "man caused disaster" (gov'ts new def of terrorism)? What effect does this have on the global warming data?

Haven't even got to the exotic metals and aerosols and their effects and multiple purpose uses.

Yeah..

this is what bothers me about the weather modification / cloud seeding stuff too. That rain that they got to fall on Texas might have been needed somewhere else too. Now the moisture isn't available... it's almost like meddling in the free market.. they are meddling in the free atmosphere.

Jack Parkman, why is reality a conspiracy

I don't understand this. We are getting sprayed - and I don't care why, whether it's weather modification or something else - constantly. I live in LA and the haze from the chemtrails is notably destructive. Within days, people start getting sick.

Why is someone who wants to know who's approving this massive project a kook? If someone were putting something in your home's water and you want to find out who, would you then be a kook?

Get real. Look around you see the truth.

It doesn't matter what you call it, it SOUNDS loopy

And it has nothing to do with Ron Paul, his campaigns, or his issues.

Call is "conspiracy." Call it "rubber chicken." Call it whatever you want. Let's not change the subject with semantics, just as you've changed the subject of this website from Ron Paul to X, Y, and Z.

The bottom line is that it's both off-topic and likely to cause potential newcomers to the movement to view us ALL -- whether we're agreeing with you or not -- as nuts.

If you guys truly had respect for this movement and didn't place chemtrails, 9/11 truth, or some other cause ABOVE Ron Paul's campaigns, you wouldn't discuss this stuff so visibly on a Ron Paul website. Instead you show disrespect for the movement by undermining its prospects just so you can talk about funny clouds in the sky.

Don't know if you mean you

Don't know if you mean you live in Los Angeles or Louisiana, but I'm in L.A., and I don't know what the hell you're talking about. How could you possibly correlate upper atmospheric contrails (or even your imaginary mind-control spraying) with illness? Our weather pollution comes from cars, Sharp. Plenty of people get sick and have breathing problems from that.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

Spam

"I would first like to say that I only made this thread because I was attacked in the other one."

Right. So, people criticized you for turning the Daily Paul into a conspiracy theory repository and causing us all to be branded as kooks, so you post ANOTHER thread as "retaliation."

Thanks.

With "friends" of the movement like this, who needs enemies?

Relax Jack


There will always be nay-sayers, regardless of the evidence. Take the attacks in stride. There are a lot of young hotheads here (and old hotheads also) and they just like to poke people in the eye, or say "Put down the crack pipe, dude." Ignore them.

This is a good forum for truth, even though it's hard to get out sometimes for all the whining that goes on.

Keep them coming and don't let the bad guys get to you.

This was my response from the EPA.

Thank you for registering your concerns with the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality. After some research on Weather Modification, it has been determined that the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation has regulatory authority over the program. Below is the link to the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation's Weather Modification website. The site offers valuable information regarding the subject and you can also register an online complaint at this site. http://www.license.state.tx.us/weather/weathermod.htm
If you have any questions, you can reach me at xxx-xxx-xxxx.
Sincerely,

Nicely done. Weather

Nicely done. Weather modification it is. Dump the term "chemtrails" once and for all.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore