Dr. Paul on FOX Business 3-25-09

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Rep. Ron Paul, (R-Texas), on what got us into this mess, and what can get us out of it.

http://www.foxbusiness.co...

Great interview from FOX, I know it's hard to believe.

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Connell McShane and Jenna Lee seem

Connell McShane and Jenna Lee seem to have given the good doctor a fair shake.
Connell may actually be a liberty lover himself. I detected a little better comprehension by him to what Dr Paul was saying compared to most MSM journalists.
Jenna need a quieter keyboard/laptop though, that incessant tapping while Dr. Paul speaks is somewhat distracting.

Ron Paul is my role model.

"Reality is the leading cause of stress amongst those in touch with it."
--Jane Wagner

Just too logical for people to understand

!!

Lots of time to actually talk it out. Much better than these two minute interviews he is given just so they can build their ratings saying they are going to have him on.

Lots of credibility

I think being diplomatic is a very good thing to gain credibility.
Ron Paul has lots of that.
I think you made a great point and maybe Ron Paul should do what you said. Perhaps there should be something like a balance between concreteness and diplomatic behaviour.

Concreteness Is NOT subject to "balancing"--either is or isn't

Concreteness Crucial Beginning To Any Further Consequences, Complications
(Apollonian, 26 Mar 09)

Yes, and I thank u much, assuming u were talking to me. Note concreteness entails simply perceiving--as w. eyes, touching--there's only the least thinking to be done. The more u have to think, the more u can fool urself.

Ron Paul and Pete Schiff make the greatest mistakes when they pretend people "mean well"--this is absolutely impossible w. Fed which is a fraud, a criminal enterprise, pure and simple (COUNTERFEITING, literally).

And keeping things abstract, pretending to intellect, is what so horribly confuses things then for most poor folks. For fraud depends upon making what's clear and concrete into an abstract, complicated and mysterious--whereas the more concrete and subject to simple sense perception, the simpler it is to discern without having to "figure it out."

Remember also, there's NO "balancing"--for the concrete nature has to be there OR NOT. Fed is either counterfeit scam--OR NOT. And I guarantee Fed is absolute criminal conspiracy. And u're enabled to see further; that's important too. For CONSPIRACY then is the next thing which depends upon that prior counterfeit nature. Once u acknowledge the counterfeit nature, CONSPIRACY automatically follows, necessarily.

CONCLUSION: That's why it's so important to get it down straight and solidly right at first beginning about the real, concrete nature of Fed, with no quibbling, no hemming and hawwing--it's a COUNTERFEITING operation/mechanism/fraud, pure and simple--either yes or no, pure and simple. Everything else follows. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

brilliant

Loved it!

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Ron Paul is cool!

Aku Soku Zan

Aku Soku Zan

LOL!!!

Damn Man you caught me off guard.. HAHAHAAAA

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Paul is cool, intellectual, etc.--but he fails for concreteness

Paul Must Make Case By Means Of Concrete--Fed Is Counterfeiting
(Apollonian, 26 Mar 09)

I agree Paul is "cool." But he still needs to break out of that abstractness and explain to folks Fed is COUNTERFEITING scam/operation/mechanism--then folks would know something.

CONCLUSION: Presently Paul is lost within abstractions which people as whole cannot grasp. By means of COUNTERFEITING characterization, then even children would successfully understand the simple concept. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

RP

Is being diplomatic. I can tell he is seething inside. I wish he was the Incredible Hulk but he's not.

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"diplomacy" will not save lives--people desperately need info

Necessity Is That Concrete Info--To Save Very Lives
(Apollonian, 26 Mar 09)

I understand Paul is being "diplomatic"--and indeed he does seem to realize he's in enemy-controlled country where he might have "accident." But fact is he--or his followers--ought to know folks have greatest difficulties with abstractions, like "inflation" which so few understand--as how monetary inflation leads to price inflation, etc.

Paul's obligation is INFORMATION for the people; this can only be done by concretes, like counterfeiting, the real nature and essence of Fed, literally just a criminal enterprise. So Paul can leave out the "criminal"--but he should emphasize counterfeiting--then even the kiddoes know what's going on, as I say.

CONCLUSION: People need to face fact we're about to go over the cliff if US Dollar collapses. I'm very poor myself. Last winter I hated to take showers in morning 'cause I couldn't afford heat. If dollar collapses things will get even worse--forever. We need Congressman Ron to QUIT BEING "diplomatic"--to save our very lives. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

I just realized that Hearing The Truth is very addicting

No wonder why I can't get enough of Ron Paul, Peter Sciff, Jim Rogers & Marc Faber.

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws - Mayer Amschel Rothschild

Why doesn't Dr Paul

say:

Bring our troops home- cut spending
Reduce Government payroll- cut spending
Reduce income Taxes by half or more- encourages personal debt reduction

He has said those things so many times...

He starts to sound like a broken record and yet...

The American sheeples can't hear the message.

DIDN'T YOU HEAR HIM SAY ELIMINATE THE INCOME TAX IN THAT INTERVIEW???

Listen up!!!

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Awesome

interview! But be needs to POUND the phrase "HR 1207" into people's heads!

Fans Must Save Paul For Fatal Flaw Regarding Concreteness

Fixedness For Intellect, Abstract Is Paul's Fatal Flaw
(Apollonian, 26 Mar 09)

Comrades: Ron Paul's one horrific, fatal flaw is his addiction, his downright OBSESSION for keeping things abstract and "intellectual" which then excludes practically 90-95% of the people.

On other hand, of course, Paul is obviously an honest man, extemely likeable, and very passionate about liberty, so he surely more than makes up for his catastrophic failing for such obsessive "intellect," again. Still that morbid abstractness is a huge, horrible drawback and flaw for overall cause of liberty.

For as I've pt'd out, Fed is a COUNTERFEIT scam/operation/mechanism (see RealityZone.com for expo/ref.); counterfeiting is what, in fact, Fed actually does--this then, is the CONCRETE nature/identity of Fed.

And the pt. then is if more people understood this concrete nature about Fed counterfeiting, they'd surely see instantly exactly why and how Fed absolutely must be abolished. For such counterfeiting then is obviously fraudulent by very fundamental nature and would immediately be understood for its totally pernicious, criminal nature.

Further then, EVEN CHILDREN would understand Fed by means of this counterfeit apellation, and note this counterfeiting is not mere exaggeration or metaphor; it's EXACTLY, precisely what Fed is and does.

The next link in natural logic is that, once one "gets it" for this simple, concrete counterfeiting--the necessary CONSPIRATORIAL nature follows nearly automatically.

CONCLUSION: For note then, it's no more possible for Congress to "legalize" counterfeiting than it can legalize murder--which everyone can grasp. Such is the FATAL and tragic FLAW of an otherwise saintly man, Ron Paul. Too bad his followers can't figure it all out regarding concrete vs. abstract--as US Dollar floats ever-closer to that waterfall of utter perdition. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

The Federal Reserve...

Was set up on such nebulus footing that no one can get at the footing.

They answer any tough question by saying that the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 gives them the authority to do anything they choose...

Without oversight.

A truly secretive 4th and unconstitutional branch of the government.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

People prefer info by means of CONCRETES, not abstracts

People Most Readily Grasp Concretes, Like "Counterfeiting"
(Apollonian, 26 Mar 09)

"Pawnstorm," see my above exposition, comrade--there's hope for ur soul yet still--don't give-up.

For fraud must always be kept mysterious and abstract, the CONCRETE nature of the thing never admitted or revealed. It's this concrete nature of Fed, COUNTERFEITING (see RealityZone.com for expo/ref.), which is still too well hidden fm dear volk who always struggle for intellect.

If only some hero could possibly "GET" to Congressman Ron and explain to him people need to have things in CONCRETE form in order to understand, we might then have some hope for salvation.

CONCLUSION: Note intellect and abstractions are so notoriously difficult for people--not one in ten understands, for example, how monetary inflation leads to price inflation--But even a child can understand concrete like COUNTERFEITING. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Dr. Paul appears abstract at times because underlying his ideals

Is a philosophy so different than where we are today that he can not explain it in these short interviews.

When asked if he would take the job of Treasury Secretary he said no because...

Under the system we have now he could not accomplish his goals.

And one man can not change the Federal Reserve System.

BUT the bill (HR1207) he proposed is a VERY GOOD START.

We the people have to tell our senators and congressman to co-sponsor this bill.

Also, look at the way you all are arguing below about what the Federal reserve system is and if is is private or not.

It was set up in a genious way to decieve, confound and confuse the American people.

It is magic and slight of hand set up by evil pure genious.

NOW, WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE MAGICIANS TO REVEAL TO US HOW THEY DO THEIR TRICKS.

BEFORE THEY COMPLETELY TRICK US OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

privately owned deceptive clusterf*ck has to go

Lehrer: What is the proper relationship, what should be the proper relationship, between the Chairman of the Federal Reserve and a President of the United States?

Greenspan: Well, first of all, the Federal Reserve is an independent agency, and that means basically that there is no other agency of government which can overrule actions that we take. So long as that is in place, and there is no evidence that the Administration or the Congress or anybody else is requesting that we do things other than what we think is the appropriate thing, then what the relationships are don't frankly matter.

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A "branch of government"

NOT a private business.

Both the Fed and the CIA have limited autonomy in decision making. That doesn't make them not government agencies.

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9/11 was "blowback," not an inside job. -Dr. Paul's position. The Federal Reserve is "a fourth branch of government," not private enterprise. - Dr. Paul's position. How about we start listening to him?

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

It's a good thing

No one here takes you seriously. You try to confuse fact on a regular basis.

It's to a point where you're being obviously dishonest.

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The Federal Reserve is a Privately Owned Business.


The Federal Reserve bank is a corporation. That is a fact.

The entire Federal Reserve bank system is privately owned. That is a fact.

The Federal Reserve banks do NOT give all profits back to the government, they keep 6%. That is a fact.

Flame, do you know what 6% of $5,000,000,000,000 (5 trillion) is?


Ron Paul's Convention Speech

If WTC was imploded by explosions, it had to be "inside job"

How Could 9-11 NOT Have Been "Inside" As Proven By Demolition?
(Apollonian, 26 Mar 09)

"Flame," I agree with ur basic thrust regarding Fed, but u seem oblivious to fact it's a monopoly, hence necessarily CRIMINAL organization. For how can Congress legalize fraud (counterfeiting)?

But what interests me most is how u say 9-11 was NOT "inside"--as WTC buildings were all obviously exploded and wired before-hand, right? So 9-11 had to be "inside job" of necessity, right? Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Why do you think I want it abolished?

Because it's a monopoly.

Of course I recognize it's a monopoly. That's the root of the problem. That's why it's able to provide the Treasury with unlimited funds, which enables the growth of the State.

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9/11 was "blowback," not an inside job. -Dr. Paul's position. The Federal Reserve is "a fourth branch of government," not private enterprise. - Dr. Paul's position. How about we start listening to him?

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

Answer the question about "inside" regarding WTC buildings

How Could 9-11 NOT Have Been Inside Job?

"Flame" comrade, Fed is COUNTERFEIT conspiracy, a criminal enterprise, having a monopoly on such counterfeiting, which counterfeiting is fraud by it's very essence and nature. Congress has no constitutional right to "legalize" such criminal fraud--any more than they can legalize murder.

But why don't u answer question regarding 9-11?--do u deny the buildings were demolished by wired explosives, which then PROVES an "inside job"? Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

I just don't want to get in a 9/11 inside job

discussion. This thread is about the video above.

But I'll comment quickly. Even if it were proved that buildings were demolished by explosives, that wouldn't prove an inside job. It could have been Al-Qaida operatives that planted the explosives. If our government was so skilled at deception, it would have just said openly that it was explosives and that Al-Qaida did it.

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9/11 was "blowback," not an inside job. -Dr. Paul's position. The Federal Reserve is "a fourth branch of government," not private enterprise. - Dr. Paul's position. How about we start listening to him?

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The Fed is not a private bank. PRIVATIZE THE FED!!!
"The Federal Reserve Banks should simply be regarded as governmental agencies." -Murray Rothbard
"I now call the Federal Reserve the fourth branch of government." -Ron Paul

Get real--WTC was un-questionably demolished by explosives

Occam's Razor And All Evidence Indicates "Inside Job," Un-Questionably
(Apollonian, 26 Mar 09)

"Flame," u get too intricate--to pt. u end fooling urself. For (a) WTC buildings were un-questionably demolished by explosives--all inductive evidence indicates, and there's NO dis-confirming evidence. Q.E.D. in accord with scientific method.

(b) Yes, it might have been the non-existent "al qaida," which is really just CIA-MOSSAD cut-out, but there's not slightest evidence for that whatsoever. Rather, there's evidence for CIA-MOSSAD, collusion of media, politicians, and 9-11 Commission itself--obviously.

Ur statement about gov. deception is non-sensical, for if it admitted it was explosives, next obvious question would be how fictional "al quaida" managed to carry it off--just more questions and problems.

CONCLUSION: 9-11 was indubitably "inside job" as all inductive evidence pt.s to it and confirms, there being no dis-confirming evidence whatsoever. Ur science and logic is defective. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

ah ha!

flame sez: Because it's a monopoly.

Why would a government agency need to have a monopoly???

You're busted!!!

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Fed is private, sovereign entity which tells gov. what to do

Right: Gov. ALREADY Is Monopoly
(Apollonian, 26 Mar 09)

Fed is private--a criminal organization by very nature, committing fraud and counterfeiting the money. And thus gov. literally WORKS FOR these frauds and criminal counterfeiters who pay gov., finance them, and tell them what to do. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian