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For the HHO crowd... looks like you get a TV show

It appears that Popular Mechanics and Dateline are teaming up to investigate HHO generators as fuel saving devices. Thought some might want to tune in. Here's a link:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4310717.ht...

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They were so right about 9/11...

Their credibility is sunk. The fact that they're actively trying to debunk HHO generators proves to me it's a viable alternative.

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PM and Dateline? We can

PM and Dateline? We can expect slanders, misinformation, calumnies, untruths, deceit and skullduggery. They will present everything but the truth.... nothing new here folks.

Bingo.

No doubt their is much bad info out there on splitting water for fuel. It could be of great use but it's not about that.. it's about control.

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The HHO movement is

The HHO movement is beginning to mature with valid experimental data, thousands of enthusiasts, hundreds of test models, expanding R&D budgets and programs and developing marketing efforts. TPTB are going to have to villify, marginalize, demonize, calumny and otherwise discredit the movement before it picks up too much more steam.

Can you please

provide a link to the valid experiment data?

I can tell you what I found with the one we built

I have no faith in anyone telling me the truth. If something seems worth trying, we try. Our Smack's Booster improved our mileage from 25mph to 33 mph. Believe me or don't, I do not care. I save whether you believe or not.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

haha..

you are a looser. you're still at this aren't you. Hey their is other blog sites you might consider trying to spread disinfo... oh wait most people on those sites are smart enough to know you're completely full of malarke. Anyone who has done this correctly knows the difference.

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Yes, oruval...

I'm "still at this". Why? Because I really wished it worked. I would love for someone to come up with good tests and data that completely prove me wrong. Really. I'd love it. I'd totally be on the bandwagon and I'd bang the HHO drum every chance I got.

But I've yet to see it.

Dude! Have you ever tried

Dude! Have you ever tried building a hydrogen generator? They do in fact produce hydrogen. I built one and piped it into a plastic bag then lit it with a torch. Hell of a boom. So even though it hasn't been perfected yet I know that it is capable of running an engine. So why don't you spend your time trying to figure it out instead of being a pain in the ass.

Bryan

Yes, in fact

I have. I built a simple one in 7th grade as a home science project. I split water into H2 and O2. Then I stuck a match into the two cups.. the O2 burned brighter.. the H2 "popped".

I have NEVER said that these things can't make hydrogen... nor have I EVER said that hydrogen is not combustible. My argument comes from an efficiency/entropy standpoint. You CAN'T get out more than you put in. I'll stop being a pain in the ass as soon as you get your head out of your ass and start talking about what I've actually said rather than some foolish strawman.

So would you rather

So would you rather everybody stop working and talking about this because you have no solid proof that any of it works or would it be better that people keep trying in hopes that some day it could work?

Bryan

Not really, no...

but I do wish someone would do something with a little technical merit and scientific rigor. This "I put a bunny on my car and my mileage went up by 20%!!!" stuff doesn't prove jack squat. I have no problem with folks investigating and trying and discussing new things... I'm just hoping to guide it somewhere useful is all.

hahaa

you said

"I have no problem with folks investigating and trying and discussing new things... I'm just hoping to guide it somewhere useful is all."

Sure you are... Guide it off a cliff into oblivion.

you know,. I hear the Easter Bunny is working for Santa this year too.

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I am a mechanic by trade and

I am a mechanic by trade and I think hydrogen generators could work but right now it is too easy to pull up to the gas pump and fill up. When the price of fuel went so high we were trying everything from hydrogen to wood gas generators. When there is a need I think there will be a way.

Bryan

He didn't ask you about your

7th grade experiment... he asked you

why don't you spend your time trying to figure it out instead of being a pain in the ass. You didn't address the point of you being a pain in the ass.

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He asked

if I'd built a hydrogen generator. The experiement I did back in the 7th grade did, in fact, generate hydrogen.

Reading comprehension. Get some of it.

That isn't the same thing

you still haven't explained why you're being a pain in the ass.

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I am being

a pain in the ass for two reasons. Both of them might be considered character flaws:

1) I am unable to turn off my bullshit detector.

2) I am unable to turn off my engineering thought process.

This HHO mess conflicts with both of those pretty heavily.

Why not tell the truth.

tell us why you waste so much time trying to discredit something that many people have tried and showed to work..

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What more truth do you want

Oruval? I've never lied to you.. which is certainly more than you can claim.

I've never misled you. To my knowledge, I've never posted anything false on this website. Something I'm proud to be able to say and embarassed for you that you cannot say the same.

I've always been honest with you. What more truth do you need?

Honest about 9/11?

you are so full of it.. Have fun bumping your thread by yourself.

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That's because you read

Popular Mechanics you dote. How about you do it yourself and tell me how it turned out.. The amount of weeks you've wasted trying to debunk this could have been spent building one yourself.. Hell the first prototype I built took two days and about 100 bucks from a hardware store.

Now if you don't mind I have better things to do than argue what I know to be true and works because I've done it with my own hands.

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PM has little to do with it...

it has more to do with the decade I've spent in mechanical engineering. I'm not going to waste my time, money, or engine on something that I'm 99.9% certain is a giant crock of crap. Not until I've seen some decent technical data that suggests that the 0.1% chance might have come true.

You don't know what the hell you've done with your own hands because you don't have the intellectual capacity to properly test, document, and report on it. You expect "It works cause I say it works!" to somehow hold water. I call BS.

I can make gunpowder too.

it works just fine..Should I explain how that works or do you need piles of technical jargon..

Hey if you're such a damn good mechanical engineer why don't you tinker a bit with it. Stop being a armchair quarter back, and for god sakes quit wasting your time trying to tell me what I've seen with my own eyes and touched with my own hands.

You can call BS.. and it seems that's about all you're capable of.. sad existence if you ask me.

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Primarily because

I don't have a spare engine laying around that I'm willing to have one of your "malfunctions" with.

Excuses

are like assholes, everybodys got one. There is one thing for certain I'll never have to worry about and that is you being remembered for any technological advances that help mankind.

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That

remains to be seen.

You know

if it happens then I'm certain that kerosene will have the ability at that point to knock down steel framed buildings in uniform fashion resembling explosives.

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Had one on my other car.

25% increase in Gas mileage and more power..

Works..

Why the "other" car?

if you had such positive results, why not on your current car as well?