Florida Loyalty Oath returns, the sequel; here for the record for all to see

Florida Judge says State Republican Party can force loyalty oath on

Posted February 19th, 2009 by FloridaPanhandle
local committee members.
I, ________________________ , hereby swear and affirm that
during my term of office I will not actively, publicly, or financially
support the election of any candidate other than the Republican
candidate in a partisan unitary, general or special election, or a
Registered Republican in non-partisan elections, other than Judicial
races governed under Florida Statute 105, if there is a registered
Republican running for the same office, unless the county
executive committee has taken an affirmative vote to endorse
one Republican over another per Rule 8(B). I further swear and
affirm that I will not engage in activities or conduct that may be
deemed by the Grievance Committee and affirmed by the RPOF
Chairman as likely to injure the name of the Republican Party or
interfere with the activities of the Republican Party.
COUNTY: _________________________________________
PRECINCT OR DISTRICT: ____________________________
SIGNATURE: ______________________________________
PRINTED NAME: ___________________________________
DATE: ___________________________________________
WITNESSED BY: ___________________________________
PRINTED NAME: ___________________________________

The State Chair says he will personally remove any member that does not sign this oath.
Does any other State Republican Party require a loyalty oath?
for its precinct chairman or precinct committeemen/women or county party officers or any loyalty oath to the party at all. I think Kansas requires one, but I don't know if it is in place. VA and CA tried to do one for voters in their primary. Can you name me the states and a link to their oath? My web searches have come up nil.
Is Florida the only state that has this? What say you Texas? Ohio?

Here is a link to this oath on a meetup site. http://files.meetup.com/521485/PartyLoyaltyOath_latest[1].pdf
You cannot find this oath at the state party website, www.rpof.org.

My take is that this oath was created to discourage Ron Paul supporters from joining the local party and being part of the local committees. To me, it is contradictory to, and negated by, our higher oath to the US and Florida Constitutions. Florida law requires any elected office holder, including party offices, to take the constitution oath, and that is entirely OK. But the party requires a loyalty oath on top of that? I know many would not join the party because of this oath. We, Ron Paulites are a very principled bunch. The few who have joined the party, bite down hard on a piece of wood in pain, while they sign. Many have said that it is a restriction of freedom of speech.

Why do we have to sign and elected politicians do not?
Why should we pledge an oath to them, when they do not to us? Why should we support a candidate that simply has an R after their name, but resembles or was a Democrat?
Why should we be loyal to our party head, being Governor Crist, who welcomes the bailouts, and rolls out the welcome mat and meets with Obama?
How can we pledge an oath to a state party that has NO STATE PARTY PLATFORM?

This is important because Florida is considered the largest state Republican party in the USA, and this could be a trend. A trend toward further and deeper socialism and strict party control.

What do you non-Floridians think of this oath?

I signed it
On February 19th, 2009 TomJefferson says:
But that was knowing I was going into a non-election cycle. The important thing for me was to get inside the machine and get to work. We now have some clout when we call legislators. Right now we are working to get Florida on board with the 10th Amendment/States Rights movement. If it were an election year, and I were in a position to vote for someone they didn't like, I would say screw the oath, vote as I saw fit, and let the chips fall where they may....like court.

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10th Amendment leading to Secession
On February 19th, 2009 FloridaPanhandle says:
You know, I have thought about that. What If? Florida was its own country? We would still have all these party first, constitution be damned people running things, and government schools teaching lies to us all our lives, like Lincoln was a saint.

So Keep it up, but realize that, our problem is not just DC, but these people walk among us, and vote, and are willingly ignorant.

We had a class on the constitution once in one of our club months back, and they said, now isn't that great. Isn't the constitution wonderful. Now go Vote for McCain!

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im in florida. its been a
On February 19th, 2009 ruckmanite says:
im in florida. its been a real dirty fight down here.What about the possibility of lawsuits?

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Lawsuits are expensive, So
On February 19th, 2009 FloridaPanhandle says:
We have found some one who is sympathetic to our cause and they are doing something. You can't bug 'em too much when they work for free.

Again, any other state have this cancerous "nazi party style" problem?

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Ha-ha-ha-ha!
On February 19th, 2009 yogmama says:
"Quoting Dirty Harry, "Go, ahead, make my day, punk!" Don't try it!!!

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I'm Confused.
On February 19th, 2009 FloridaPanhandle says:
Don't try what?

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Who cares. Fight back using
On February 19th, 2009 adam1mc says:
Who cares. Fight back using the same dirty tactics.

Sign the damn form. And when the time comes, stab them in the back and support whomever you choose.

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That's the actions
On February 19th, 2009 BigT says:
of a "dead" political party.

They are so horrible and so desperate, that they can't even depend on the support of their own members, so they resort to arm-twisting.

They are finished. In a few years, there won't be any Republican Party. And it might not even take that long for them to pack up.

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Parties who have done this did not die
On February 19th, 2009 FloridaPanhandle says:
but they went on to take over the country, increasing their strangle hold, with greater and greater intensity.

THIS JUST IN!!! FLORIDA IS TEST CASE!

This loyalty oath is new to Florida as of 2008 primary. So this is a test! If it is allowed to continue here, it will be tried elsewhere.

What is that quote about, evil triumphs, if good men do nothing?

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What's the difference between the Republican Party
On February 19th, 2009 bigmikedude says:
and a Hoover vacuum cleaner?

You can fit hundreds of dirt bags in the Republican Party.

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i couldn't do it.
On February 19th, 2009 fishwhisl says:
I went to register back during the primary's and couldn't stomach the thought of signing my soul away.

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"signing my soul away" Lay
On February 19th, 2009 riverrun says:
"signing my soul away"

Lay off the sauce. Anyone can find an excuse to quit.

It's their club. Play along with their rules until you can change their rules.

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Only a fool would sign that!
On February 19th, 2009 scdecade says:
Each and every individual who signs such a document is a fool. Worse than a fool, a fool complicit in their own foolery. The only reason so-called "republicans" could conceive of such a document is because THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION OF ACTING LIKE REPUBLICANS. So what they're trying to do is to use mob mentality to peer pressure imbeciles into signing their consent to self-betrayal.

In the words of Chris Rock: "Anybody who makes up their mind before they hear the issue is a f---ing fool."

The message of freedom doesn't need an oath. The Libertarianismist Party has a stupid oath too and look how well it's served them. The LP has a 35 year history of being losers and a big reason is because they only accept oath-spouting wackos. No piece of paper or oath is a substitute for deeply held principles. Whatever happened to having a big tent? Whatever happened to having a platform which spreads liberty and individual freedom by standing on its own merits and without an a priori permission slip being written to the politicos? Is this how far we've fallen into the muck of coercion? Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

The so-called republicans are now just big government idiots. So they want to cement their new statism with the sheeple. Pathetic and dumb.

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Fool for the cause of liberty
On February 19th, 2009 FloridaPanhandle says:
I am. I was torn. Sign or not sign. Here are what some have said who have signed.
1. "It is nothing, don't worry about it."
2. "Even marriage starts with a LIE."
3. "As soon as I conflict with it, I'll quit."
4. It is either this oath and try to work the system from the inside to get rid of it, or later we will be shooting them instead of handing them an oath, when the revolution starts, to protect our family...
5. "I don't really know or remember what it says. Am I not supposed to get a copy of something I have signed?"

So there you go. We in Florida are under assault. Some of our best Ron Paulers are suing already. A Judge in Miami earlier gave an opinion on the oath, and preventing elected officers from office were not OK. Then this Judge in Orlando? dismissed this case, but it is now being appealed.

Is Florida alone on this?

We are also a closed primary, no conventions, no platform state, and only two people from each of 67 counties runs the state party plus a chairman, the governor and 50 or so of his hand picked buddies in the legislature.

Silence is consent.
On February 19th, 2009 dlind says:
Refuse to sign it; refuse to step down; take it to court.

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I think maybe Putin was right
On February 19th, 2009 SoBe says:
It's looking more and more like America will divide into about 5 sections.

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

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Yah,
On February 19th, 2009 dlind says:
too bad that all the cool people are spread out over each 'section'.

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Hopefully
On February 19th, 2009 SoBe says:
We will be able to salvage a couple of Free States with RP as President.

"It's just one big club... and WE ain't in it!"

AHahaha. They are soooo going down.
On February 18th, 2009 lynnopoly says:
~ They just keep digging a deeper hole they are not going to get out of.

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy

"It is your duty as loyal Americans to Shut up."– Bill O'Reily

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My opinion
On February 18th, 2009 Equality7-2521 says:
They just want good little florida Nazi's.... I mean republicans.

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the parties are private
On February 18th, 2009 rftbunny says:
the parties are private organizations .. yes they can do what they want ... when they say that publicly ... they will have a problem

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But Are They?
On February 19th, 2009 FloridaPanhandle says:
The Dems and Reps both have their primaries paid for with state money. They are state budget supported. The County Supervisor of elections take care of all their election results, which are gov't employees, doing the work for a ?private? organization. The ballots have party and government offices on them! These two parties in control of the government, totally discriminate against other parties and independents, so hmmmm.... Is the Republican Party really a private organization?

I think not.

I think of them more like the 4th and 5th or now maybe the 1st and 2nd branch of our five branch govt with the legislative, judicial and executive branches coming in a distant 3rd, 4th, and 5th.