Alex Jones threatens Jeff Rense, has him kicked off GCN
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Dear Friends of Liberty and Free Speech... Following is a reply I sent to a long-time listener and thought you should be able to read it, too. It will answer the basic questions many have asked. Thank you, all, for your kindness and support. I am looking forward to working with the new networks which will be making major efforts to present the program on far more stations than the former network ever did. With best regards to all of my good Friends here at MySpace.
.. Jeff From: Dan > Subject: Jeff Rense fired > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 2:57 PM Heard a rumor the Jeff Rense was fired from GCN because he posted an article that Alex Jones is a Zionist agent. I called GCN. Ted Andersen is not in today but the first person I talked to confirmed the rumor, and the second person said they couldn't talk about it. This is extremely disheartening for all Americans who value the first amendment. If Ted Andersen does not, then it is our duty to expose him. Dan
Hello Dan... Thank you for your concern. I was not 'fired' because I was never paid by GCN. I was letting them have use of my program in exchange for commercial minutes each hour. This is all about Jones...who called me at home last Tuesday afternoon just past 1pm and threatened to "destroy" me (and my family) over the well-written story by Brother Nathanael Kapner researching and seeking to understand the reasons why Jones is, and has long been, pro-zionist and an unabashed apologist of zionist Israel and its genocide of Palestinians...and generally steers people away from AIPAC and the Rothschild City of London banking monolith which controls so much of the Western world. The story is available here at Real Jew News Note how the article cites direct quotes from Jones' own PrisonPlanet message board. I also, as the world knows, always encourage and post legitimate rebuttals to stories. Matter of fact, when I told Jones to stop threatening me on the phone, he maniacally (no exaggeration) roared in his guttural, Neanderthal voice: "I'm not 'threatening' you...I PROMISE you I will destroy you!!!" Never in my life have I been terrorized like that and it is my personal opinion that such behavior is mentally deranged and unquestionably dangerous. While this took place, my partner heard him bellowing and raging and screaming on the phone and she was shocked and stunned...as am I. The many stories and allegations about his abuse and threatening of others in this business would seem to be accurate, at least as far as I am concerned. I have filed a formal police report against him for interstate terrorism and threats. Within an hour or so of his phone call, Ted Anderson emailed me notification of 30 day cancellation of our broadcast agreement. Jones has bragged to me and others that he "owns Ted Anderson's ass"...Ted is a lap dog and did as he was ordered. Jones efforts to censor the news are clear and unquestionable. Jones ordered that my live programs be blocked last Tuesday and GCN has been running encores the last four nights without so much as the common courtesy of advising me which program would be aired. After all and in sum, it is tragically clear Jones has an agenda which does not include steadfast support of our Constitution, Freedom of Speech and Inquiry, and Freedom of the Press. As so many others have claimed over the years, he is too often an opportunistic, self-aggrandizing tyrant and hypocrite who seeks to promote himself over all other issues, while clearly serving the wishes of special interest groups. At this point in time, after doing my program for fifteen years, I find that I must regrettably agree with that assessment. William Cooper, indeed, raised some very serious issues about Jones just before he was shot to death. Please know that I expect to be back doing Live Programs by Monday night on at least two new networks. There will be a formal announcement on the site this weekend. Thank you, most kindly, for your concern. Jeff Note from Moderator: Brother Kapner explored the issue of Jones' wife's religion as it was reflected on Jones' own PrisonPlanet site message board and did so as a journalistic tool to try to understand why he is so pro-Zionist.
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Rense has repeatedly attacked AJ and it's stupid
He also puts anyone on his show and gives them the benefit of plausibility. IE, the half-past human people who said that the world would be changed forever involving a big incident with the US military and of course it never happened.
Also there is that Rathma nonsense, polar shift evolution, Jesuits, and Reptilians.
It's all so insane its annoying. Even Rense's site is still being run like it's 1993. He apparently has no goal other than to be as outlandish with conspiracies as possible and not put any effort into credibility or research.
AJ on the other hand is a bit brash and somewhat paranoid, but he's constantly going over real gov conspiracies and situations to give you some perspective.
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I wouldn't know who Ron Paul was if it wasn't for alex jones interviewing him for the last 12 years. Just thought I point that out. No man is perfect
but I must say after listening to alex jones for 5 years, even before prisonplanet.com , I truly believe this man is sincere.
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Rense/Jones infighting
If Rense filed actual formal complaint then cough it up. If he filed on he/Rense should be able to post the complaint to prove he actually filed a complaint. That being said, the Reason Alex Jones does not go on and on and on about Zionism as some other radio talk show hosts do is for the same reason he does not go on and on about The Knights Of Malta or the Jesuits or the black pope or the supposed reptilians control grid.
He/Alex Jones talks about what he can prove or verify with documentation.
Most all of the Zionists running or the world or the knights of Malta or the Jesuits or the black pope is all just opinion but not provable with factual documentation for the most part!
Of Course Alex Jones doesn't do shows about UFO's, Bigfoot and ghosts either! Its ashame some people would want to interject their opinions on what another radio talk show host needs to speak about. I am from the old school of free speech! Don't come into my home/radio talk show and tell me what I should speak about or not speak about. Don't like it. Go and listen to another broadcaster!
I also listened to the audio clip Jason Bermas from the author of the article above and one major thing he conviently left out of his headline....Jason also said don't call into my show if you don't like Mexicans or blacks either. The author of the article posted a deceptive headline!
The issue of Alex Jones wife being Jewish? So freaking what! Is it the contention of the author of this and other articles about Alex Jones that because Mr. Jones has a Jewish wife that some how makes him a Zionist? I would believe that notion if it were not for the FACT there are lots of Jews that are flat out against Zionism! The tactic of implying anything Jewish must be bad or evil, comes from 1 source. That source being Neo-Nazi's the KKK, Aryan race members and Christian identify members.
So this insistency by some people wanting Alex Jones to reveal his wife religious of ethnic background is very revealing to me. It emplys to me that is Jones does not tell on air that his wife is Jewish he must be hiding a dark secret! I would suppose Alex is like what a real man should be. protect your wife and children from harm at all costs. To me implying a negative bent on someone's wife such as the author of the article above keeps implying, rather low and slimly as far as I am concerned!
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Rense Jones and Beck ---
You must Always remember it's Only Entertainment not Reality.
so Don't let them make you make a fool out of yourself.
Will you Alex Jones zombies
please go away. Jones, just like Beck, should be viewed with caution. If they were as "dangerous" to the elite as they like to pretend, they would be GONE. So, stop the jone's ass-kissing and keep these tools at arms length. We don't need crazy, un-professional individuals like this in any leadership role. This will make our movement appear to be "un-stable". This is not a quality we want to project. It is what the elite want. Paint us crazy and sell it to the country through their paid clowns, Jones and Beck. Once these tools represent us, boom, they will implode and try to take us down.
Rense lost credibility with
Rense lost credibility with me when and as he continues to plaster anything and everything he can about disease this and plague that - all without exception are fear-mongering ploys of the NWO, pharmacorps and other psychopaths.
Fear is the key to control....
Wow. one person in la la
Wow. one person in la la land accuses the other from la la land for being invovled in a conspiracy. Sometimes comedy writes itself.
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Pretty much
Most Ron Paul supporters, who are mainstream, don't have much respect for this kind of drivel.
Mainstream....
A lot of good that kind of thinking gets us. Keep it mainstream and absorbable for public consumption. I hope u two aren't cramped in your tiny boxes. Actually I think most Ron Paul supporters are intelligent enough to know their is much truth in this "drivel". Do u doubt the existence of dis-info agents and agent provocateurs?
AJ just lost my respect
threatening a guy like Rense. BS! Rense is one of the few out there keeping Israel's genocide on his front page all the time.
Not like I had a lot for AJ anyway. It only took me a few months to figure out who runs the show on this planet. AJ has been in this for decades and the best he has is to bash Obama and the Bilderberg group. CMON!
The Queen The Pope and the Khazar King (aka Israeli PM) run the show. Puppets like Obama and the expendable members of Bilderberger is a COMPLETE waste of time for a guy at AJs level. Threatening a fellow freedom fighter like Rense makes AJ look like a COMPLETE JERK! Screw him and his fake @ss rants!
I am going to make a new video THE ALEX JONES DECEPTION!
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if AJ decides to quiet down and then begin to focus on the REAL culprits I will be happy to retract the above negative statements. Otherwise, I stand by them. I have a right to my opinion and that is it.
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Let the two men
work out their own problems. Do you support Jews or Palestinians - who cares - I support America, the Constitution and other American documents. This is nothing but a distraction.
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Rense offered an olive branch
http://www.rense.com/general85/issue.htm
Has Jones done anything to smooth this over?
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These guys
They are just two humans . Very different as we all are in the USA. Not all Christian anymore.People are way out there way in there and everything in between. Jeff is way out there, and Alex is way in there.You talk about unity?There is no unity. It will be another thousand years before there is unity in the human race and probably far different than you could imagine.
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Just as they announce the NWO, we become distracted by...
these kind of divisive activities which, oddly enough, seek to divide our ranks just at the point when we need to be unified more then ever! Interesting as the debate could be about whether this falling out is coincidence or conspiracy, STAY TOGETHER & STAY FOCUSED ON OUR OBJECTIVE...TAKING OUR COUNTRY BACK!
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Those politics are for some place else
Why this stuff comes up on DP? What is the relevance for the forum?
You have a point, however...
Alex Jones is often mentioned here because he has been a staunch Ron Paul supporter and has given Dr. Paul a lot of air time and free publicity. As well, Jones got Dr. Paul on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory, and that was good.
You're right about the Jones/Rense thing however.
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Why is this a topic even posted on DP?
Second, AJ and co. run a biz. They can fire and hire whom they wish.
This aint no commie ...country is it?
3rd. This is a distraction and I am sorry I fed the troll.
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So what?
They've disliked each other for years. It's personal for them. Who cares?
They both want to be the big alternative, anti-big brother media source. There's room for both of them.
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Alright here it is.
Alex Jones does not believe in self control much. He let's all of his spirit out.
Jeff Rense is sort of the opposite. He doesn't show much emotion. Jeff rense does not claim to be Christian. Alex does , but does not put the Bible first on his list .Alex Jones recently said about the globalists. "who cares who they are?" That seems pretty strange for a guy who has defined his life by going after these globalists. And he doesn't care about their identity. Yea, a little strange indeed. Alex talks alot about freedom of speech , but quickly deletes comments on his website exposing the zionists and even bible verses. I bear first hand wittness.. I could see him deleting filth or sillyness, but valid imformation and truth? That spells hypocryte.
Jeff is and has been kind and fair, although a little bit cool and distant. But a good guy in the end. I like Jeff. And Alex too if he had a little bit more control and thoughtfulness, before blurting out. And a little less hypocracy and doughnuts. And actually hating the truth wherever it be found. Throwing tantrums can not change reality Alex.
This Quote Summarizes My Initial Intuition on Alex Jones;
"The bottom line seems to be that, at the very least, Jones is doing, intentionally or otherwise, exactly what the Illuminati want by continually ranting, over and over again, about the control being imposed over the population.
While this informs to a degree, the larger issue is of a massive desensitization through endless repetition and ensuing listener psychological frustration which leads to a de facto acceptance of that very control paradigm."
But, I would like to believe he is trying to do good.
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"While this informs to a
"While this informs to a degree, the larger issue is of a massive desensitization through endless repetition and ensuing listener psychological frustration which leads to a de facto acceptance of that very control paradigm."
Hmm, Jones says to contact your representatives and gave support for Ron Paul the whole way. Rense bashes Jews. When it comes to calls to action(and even correct thinking), Jones is light years ahead, even though I don't agree with him on a lot and I think he is a fearmonger(like anyone who makes a living on conspiracies will be).
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You know, that pisses me off right there...
Growing up, I was a hardcore Christian and totally fell for all the bullcrap about the Jews being "God's Chosen People" and what-not. Rense's site opened my eyes up to how they are taught via their most holy book, the Talmud, all Jews to regard non-Jews (Goyim) as inferior, the history of Jewish impact on societies, the fact that it is NOT a religion, rather a clan.
I'm not saying all Jews are bad, and neither is Rense. However, the amount of Jewish influence over this country is massive relative to their population, and that isn't because of the myth that they are harder working or more savvy than any non-Jews. Hell, the majority of the Federal Reserve is Jewish, and the family that owns the world, the Rothschilds, are Jewish as well. It's important to note that they're Khazar Jews, and not of the original twelve tribes of Israel..but I'm not getting into all that.
My point is--Rense speaks the truth on the subject of Zionistic influence.
Thank you for saying that.
I agree. I have often been disturbed by this 'compulsive' blarring and shouting like he has Turrets' syndrome or something, but has a deliberate bent to it. I agree, though some of what he presents seems to be truth, I am still left feeling it is only 'half truth'.
Example: Like that scene in his film, Obama Deception, when Henry Kissinger is talking incessantly about 'somebody'. We didn't actually hear Henry say who he was talking about. He didn't say, Obama, we only hear Alex say that Henry was talking about Obama.
This is the kind of thing that concerns me. It isn't 'real' journalism, its more like 'tabloid' junk always insinuating without really providing truth, just surmising. And can you imagine the kind of cash he's raking in on his 'stuff'. He's no different than a snake oil salesman, an opportunist taking advantage of pretty self-evident stuff that we can plainly see and just listen to ourselves for crying out loud.
Oh, and I should add that Rense is really no different too. There is inconsistency on his site too, only his site is more anti-zionist. He is not anti-jew. Being critical of Israel is not anti-jew. That's BS and I refuse to be intimidated by any of that nonsense. I noticed Rense kinda dropped Ron Paul last spring when Paul had to pull back and work on his Congressional bid. Rense became critical of Paul and kinda dissed him for not 'energizing' the freedom movment just when he got the ball rolling.
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Rense, on the other hand, is simply a racist.
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6 out of 10 articles on Jeff Rense's website are anti Zionist.
Would AJ allow someone to be part of his network for such a long time if AJ himself was a Zionist agent ??
Don't know about you, but that doesn't make sense to me.
What makes more sense is Rense went off the deep end with Zionist paranoia and pointed the finger at those around him.
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