Former naval intelligence official joins 911 truth
Angelo M. Codevilla, PhD joins patriotsquestion911.com
"Seven years after Osama bin Laden's last verifiable appearance among the living, there is more evidence for Elvis's presence among us than for his. Hence there is reason to ask whether the paradigm of Osama bin Laden as terrorism's deus ex machina and of al Qaeda as the prototype of terrorism may be an artifact of our Best and Brightest's imagination, and whether investment in this paradigm has kept our national security establishment from thinking seriously about our troubles' sources. So let us take a fresh look at the fundamentals.
Negative evidence alone compels the conclusion that Osama is long since dead. Since October 2001, when Al Jazeera's Tayseer Alouni interviewed him, no reputable person reports having seen him—not even after multiple-blind journeys through intermediaries. The audio and video tapes alleged to be Osama's never convinced impartial observers. The guy just does not look like Osama. Some videos show him with a Semitic aquiline nose, while others show him with a shorter, broader one. Next to that, differences between colors and styles of beard are small stuff.
Nor does the tapes' Osama sound like Osama. In 2007 Switzerland's Dalle Molle Institute for Artificial Intelligence, which does computer voice recognition for bank security, compared the voices on 15 undisputed recordings of Osama with the voices on 15 subsequent ones attributed to Osama, to which they added two by native Arab speakers who had trained to imitate him and were reading his writings. All of the purported Osama recordings (with one falling into a gray area) differed clearly from one another as well as from the genuine ones. By contrast, the CIA found all the recordings authentic. It is hard to imagine what methodology might support this conclusion.





















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a bump, Sentinel...
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Benazir (sp) Bhutto said Osama was dead..........
And then, well, after saying that, she didn't last long herself. He is DEAD, folks. And, indeed, the fact that the charade goes on speaks volumes.
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9/11 was BLOWBACK, not an inside job.
"We were really brought down, and chaos was caused, by 19 individuals with box blades..We have to realize that our foreign policy has blowback to it." - Ron Paul
They can find sadam hiding
They can find sadam hiding in a hole in the ground in iraq but they can't find bin laden in a cave? He is dead but to say that would be a blow to the war on terror saga...
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Live Free or Die.
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You haven't posted anything
You haven't posted anything back here.
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9/11 was BLOWBACK, not an inside job.
"We were really brought down, and chaos was caused, by 19 individuals with box blades..We have to realize that our foreign policy has blowback to it." - Ron Paul
Also in 2007, Professor
This is taken from the link from the profile for Angelo M. Codevilla. There are lots of authenticated photo's of Osama wearing a gold ring. Islam prevents solid gold, but not gold plated. Lots of Islamic leaders wear gold ring as can be seen in many photo's of them.
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9/11 was BLOWBACK, not an inside job.
"We were really brought down, and chaos was caused, by 19 individuals with box blades..We have to realize that our foreign policy has blowback to it." - Ron Paul
Ok, I'll bite
First, they only tested 1 unauthenticated Osama tape, not 15. They used 15 Osama recordings to train it, then 15 authenticated Osama tapes, 15 Arabics speakers, 2 workers from the IDIAP institute, and 1 unauthenticated Osama tape. It was correct on all the Arabic speakers, the 2 IDIAP workers. It said 2 recordings had a chance of not being him. The unauthenticated tape, and one of the authenticated tapes that they know was him. The authenticated tape had a higher percentage of not being Osama than did the tape in question. The tape is question was just over the limit of casting doubt. Not certainity, doubt.
Conclusion
The work reported here was mainly motivated by pure scientific curiosity, also aiming at showing the possibilities and limitations offered by automatic speaker authentication system in non-optimal conditions (typically, noisy environments and limited amount of recordings). While this study does not permit us to draw any definite (statistically significant) conclusions, it nonetheless shows that there is serious room for doubt, and that it is also difficult to agree with some US officials saying that it is 100% sure that it is bin Laden. When addressing a problem with a scientific perspective (as opposed to a political approach), one has to be ready to also accept the uncertainty of the results. Even if the confidence of these results can be boosted by exploiting multiple automatic systems and multiple human expert opinions, it will never be possible to authenticate the latest bin Laden tape with 100% assurance.
TROLL POWER!!!!
9/11 was BLOWBACK, not an inside job.
"We were really brought down, and chaos was caused, by 19 individuals with box blades..We have to realize that our foreign policy has blowback to it." - Ron Paul
Where's the disinfo punks?
Come on guys you're getting paid well to try and hide the truth.. the least you could do is help keep this info bumped..
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thanks dude It's hard to keep this going without the trolls .
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Yeah you'd think something
From Freejesseventura, or Bbagnall..or hell Rhino or possibly Forge for that matter.
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Get over it
It was another successful false flag operation. Next case. Boring.
Boring? Hardly. Bump for those here...
...who lost people that were special to them because of what happened on 9/11.
Bump for the liberties that have been lost...
...because of what happened on 9/11
Bump for the lives STILL being lost...
...in this phoney baloney so-called War on Terror that has been perpetuated because of what happened on 9/11
And bump for Sentinel and all the others who care enough...
... to NOT close the book on the subject of 9/11.
Lives and liberties have been and are still being lost because of what happened then.
I will let it rest the day that the FBI shows every video of the
pentagon strike and everything else they have that should be public knowledge. So in other words never.
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For all those who kept "alternative" knowledge alive over the last hundreds of years;
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Yes just making a point about about the debunkers , have you
noticed the lack of them on my last few threads ? They can't get into this any more. It's just becoming too real.
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Thanks for posting
it would be great if the military and engineers for 911 truth could get more attention they give the whole truth movement additional creditability.
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For the skeptics,
Scroll through the list of law enforcement and intelligence personel who are demanding a new investigation. It's an impressive list with some damning comments: http://patriotsquestion911.com/#ACodevilla
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i think most of us have known for years...
that Bin Laden was dead...the last known legitimate video i saw of him was proof for me...was it dialysis he needed, i forget but i knew he was dying and so did he and that is why he did the last video in, when, 2001...even then, he was a "creation" of the cia and did his best to rally his followers against the american "infidel" (what we call occupiers)...
so, he is dead...you know it, i know it, everybody "knows" it but the cia continues the lie and propels itself further away from the everyday american....
i don't trust them, i don't like them...they are worst than the kgb at its very height in the soviet union...i would not be surprised to learn, in fact, that they have assassinated many, many, true american patriots...
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Yes the idea that those men attacked those planes with box
cutters gets a bit more ridiculous when you realize that they were being instructed to do it from a man tied to a dialysis machine in Dubai.
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when any one part is an obvious lie the rest of it stinks just
as high.
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Something has occurred to me .
I have seen it before but I had to test it for a while before I would comment and here it is.
When a 911 thread has an opportunity for the debunkers to discredit the cause they like to keep the thread bumped but then when I post a thread that can't be discreditted by offering solid credibility the thread gets zero attention to be sure to let it fall off the page.
There are those who will keep it up on here but without the opposition these threads fall off fast. It's very telling isn't it ?
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Yes, You Need to Get a Troll in Here.
I've wondered about some of the trolls around here -- if they were not alter-egos of other users, used to bump threads.
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Ron Paul's Convention Speech
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Very telling indeed.
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Yes, and when the debunking isn't going so well...
...and the thread remains alive, you can often expect a visit from the "Don't you care about Ron Paul?" crowd, along with the "You'll scare people off if you talk about things like this" crowd.
(P.S. Your comment below to me was a good one...about calling George Bush. Haha.)
and as I said people who get it keep it on the page :)
and those who are afraid of reality let it go down.
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