The Real Secret to "The Secret" and "What the Bleep" (updated)
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This is the best article I have seen regarding the problem with the whole "Power of Positive Thinking" train of thought. Like every Illuminati scheme, they take a nugget of truth, then twist it to make good people into mindless thralls. I HIGHLY recommend reading every word of this, and I confess to having previously heartily lapped up this flavor of koolaid.
I will risk the wrath of many, and point out that while the New Age movement is widely accepted to be a machination of the NWO, those who diligently seek truth understand that the Bible is their first major propaganda work. Whatever was in it originally was lost long ago, and it is now filled with nonsense and lies to keep the sheep following the shepherd they created.
Dr. Paul cured my taste for koolaid... in any of its flavors.
UPDATE: There is some very good debate, I want to toss this into the fray. Positive thinking ("focused intent" is my preferred phrase) can help us to focus our mental capacity and give our physical efforts direction. Meaningful achievement without focused intent is nearly impossible. THAT is the nugget of truth here. If you want something, BELIEVE in your capacity to manifest that thing or you will never have it. However, if positive thinking worked every time, every new amputee would regrow their limb. Truly, there is no situation where a person wants it more than the person who just lost a limb, or their vision, etc. To take the truth of the power of intent and then apply absolute status to it is where the lie is twisted. It does NOT work every time.
This seems harmless enough, unless you are someone who has been abiding by this "secret" and it is not working. The natural inclination is to assume we are not acceptable to the Universe, our intent is not pure enough, we just didn't want it bad enough or try hard enough. This is GREAT for the people who are manipulating our reality. Rather than face up to the fact that the Mock Market and CRIMEX are quite thoroughly manipulated, we assume we are bad at finances or investing. t the spiritual level, we begin to believe God finds us unacceptable if we cannot make this "Secret" work for us.
There IS a nugget of truth here: I have pulled off a "miracle" or two in my life, but there was always ACTION on my part. I NEVER "thought" the Universe into compliance.
For instance, I was in a skiing accident that was about to kill me. I had a split second and I ACTED, and it saved my life. I COULD have tried to think my way out of it... for a split second, and then I would have been all done thinking.
One related thought: I KNOW we do not give enough attention to the energetic aspects of our being. Our very existence is a matter of electrical and chemical reactions, so I am certain we are affected by magnetic fields, etc. and I believe we can probably influence these energy fields in ways we have never been invited to imagine or explore. Tessla tried, JPMorgan sabotaged him.
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This is a delightful thread.
This is a delightful thread. I am so happy there is so much interesting philosophical discussions from both sides.
2 points, I went to a preview of a sequel to "The Secret" where some of the authors and other people discussed the challenges of implementing what it is you try to create. It has to be attainable to a degree OR you have to know to take the next few baby steps instead of an unrealistic leap that will never happen to reach your goals.
Secondly, there is a really good book called Inside the Brain and it discusses the science behind how people's environmental factors actually changes their neurochemistry. Fascinating! Well at least I think so..
nerd I am.
Peace.
Conscious intention
It works for me every time.
i'm a rse student ...
and while i personally found 'the secret' inspiring ... it was only because i understand the science and have the techniques to make the concepts work. 'the secret' is just thowing philosophy out there to the masses. which is cool. it has its place.
but if you want to actually learn the science of creating your reality, of creating your life, of creating your day... ya gotta go to the ram.
the teachings of ramtha were the inspiration of the film 'what the bleep'.
ram has been teaching since 1977 and it has only been since 2005(?) that a student emerged from the student body and mastered the discipline of seeing the future. (looking through the cards.) there are now four. it is so remarkable that there are institutes studying them now.
"If you want something, BELIEVE in your capacity to manifest that thing or you will never have it." ---- see that just isn't how manifestation works.
"However, if positive thinking worked every time" ---- the problem with this description is the word 'positive'. there is a whole teaching on that.
every new amputee would regrow their limb.--- yeah that can be done. and EVERY TIME.
Truly, there is no situation where a person wants it more than the person who just lost a limb, or their vision, etc". ---- 'wanting' doesn't manifest stuff. the very act of thinking 'want' suggests a lack.
"To take the truth of the power of intent" --- 'intent' is just half of the equation. the other half is 'focus'.
EVERYONE has shitty focus. and i mean EVERYONE. if you think you have great focus... i challenge you to get on ram's field and find your card blindfolded. after an hour in the rain/snow, hungry, thristy, have to go to the bathroom, tired, bored... etc.... your level of focus is CLEARLY demonstrated to yourself and everyone else.
and then apply absolute status to it is where the lie is twisted. It does NOT work every time. --- if the discipline is learned correctly and applied correctly... it works EVERY time.
to learn more ... i'd recommend listening to greg's interviews. he has the best, most reliable focus in school.
http://beyondtheordinary.net/gregsimmons.shtml
to learn the 'art of focus' do a beginner event at rse:
www.ramtha.com
learn 'the REAL secret'. not the airy fairy, new age fluff.
I enjoyed reading this and
I enjoyed reading this and it is thought provoking. If the new-agers are right then I must be on a negative bum trip because the world seems to be crumbling into the worst nightmare. That would mean my most negative thoughts are manifesting in reality, making me the most powerful thinker on earth. So I too see the bunk in using a blanket theory to rule my actions. On the other hand, there is some wisdom to channelling your thoughts toward success and hapiness. I do believe that actions do start with thoughts and ideas, both negative and positive. Sometimes negativity can be a very powerful motivator toward action.
A positive attitude though is probably intrinsic to a personal state of well being. Buddha said "The mind is everything. What you think you become." But I think that is very much a different thing than 'what you think the world becomes. ' Remaining positive amongst the chaos is good for your heart; meanwhile noticing the bad and using it as a call to action is necessary for improving circumstances.
The Secret
What a bunch of great minds we are to even discuss such things. Daily Paulers, I salute you.
MrTom
victoria
keeping the people in fear is the job of the illuminati, and apparently the Congress and the President(s). what the people fear is what they will get because that is where the focus is. that is why it is great to be awake and know the truth! what you resist persists- whatever is on your mind is created- see? this is why meditating to find your own truth and having positive thoughts create a positive life. intention. someone (i don't know who) said "the difference between careless connection and a relationship of depth lies in the motives of the heart." i believe this applies here. a relationship is many things- you and your life, you and your lover, you and your mortgage company...(lol) you and your reality!!
btw- is anyone else vibrating at high rates of speed lately?
~peace
~peace
here is a case and point
last year- maybe september or maybe november, i posted a video about hemp and insisted that hemp was was our answer to many things- environment, sustainable clothing etc etc etc etc etc yet the only comments i received were doubtful and few. i intended that others would see the light as i did and that i would manifest it by the middle of next year and viola- here we are. now, about a couple other posts i have added in the past two days- you all may have not commented on them, but obviously you aren't ready to go that far yet, so, i am creating the space for a bit more open mindedness. not proof enough for you? here is another- for four months i have been conversing with my mortgage company to fix my escrow and change my payment and instead have only gotten late fee charges (they insist i am not paying enough even though it is them whose paperwork is wrong) and finally yesterday i decided that i would call one last time and i would talk to the right person- the one that works for me- and low and behold- that is exactly what happened. there are a hundred different stories i could relate about my personal life, but they are just that, personal and besides, i'm not trying to prove anything to anyone. try is a lie! i will continue to live in my world i create in peace. BTW- that is called faith, belief in your SELF, just as Jesus taught!
~peace
~peace
What the Bleep-Down the rabbit hole......order the DVD and
watch it.
~Your perception becomes your reality~
~Your perception becomes your reality~
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Everybody wants to know how to play a musical instrument but few are willing to take the time to practice, practice practice.
Who among us has not easily attracted the things that we have feared ?
If one can without much effort attract a negative experience, then why not a positive also?
Some of my friends collect stamps, some dollars, both are blessed with the law of attraction.
MrTom
The Law of Attraction
is much more complex than the Secret explains. The movie does, many times, tell the viewer that action is required. It NEVER suggested sitting there and doing nothing. The law of attraction is based on science and reality. I would suggest those that are repulsed by this law should spend some time looking at their own life. You have attracted the life you are living. Perhaps it is time to deal with that.
How, as a sleeple, did I attract the world of the Illuminati?
The person currently urging me to work on the Secret specifically is doing so to make me quit "wasting my energy" on all this "negative" political stuff. Do you support his stance? Shall I stop passing out information and spend my time meditating with him and his buddies instead? That is literally what he recommends.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
the illuminati are control freaks and so are we.
if we were not control freaks we would not have the nwo folks in our reality.
when we individually master our own acceptance of chaos and embrace making known the unknown the more the nwo folks will fall out of our reality.
think you're not a control freak??
well... the illuminati are stuck at the 3rd seal (chakra).
that is the seal that governs the attitudes: victim and tyranny.
own tyranny and being a victim in yourself and you will shift to a timeline where the nwo folks don't exist.
how am i doing that?
growing food. moving further out of the city. becoming more self sufficient. taking responsibility for my thoughts. observing my thoughts more. meditating so i can become more observant of my thoughts. doing my 'create my day' discipline so i become aware of my thoughts.
the statement i use on my list is: i am aware of my thoughts and when i go to the past (you close your eyes and focus on each word individually. do the statement three times. it takes three times for your observer to 'see' it.)
oh and when stuff shows up in your grid/reality... ummmm you HAVE to act on it. the whole point of being on this plane of demonstration is to make known the unknown. that involves 'action'. :)
You didn't attract the
You didn't attract the so-called illuminati. They were always present.
What you attracted was the expanded awareness to learn of and know their presence, meaning and existence.
Earlier your reality was without these ones. But they still existed.
Your current reality is filled with them.
You can create a reality where they are not.
Correct
They have provided us contrast and we must use that to move toward what we want. We need contrast. The trick is focusing on what we want and not the crap we hate. It's OK to identify the bad. Expose it. However, the real lesson is showing folks the better way.
No! Absolutely do not stop
No! Absolutely do not stop waking yourself and people up. It is one thing to dwell in negative thought patterns all day long and therewith poison your life. You will become depressed and ill. We become aware of life in all of its aspects positive and negative. Where the danger lies is in finding fault (condemning thoughts) because these have a great negative impact. (Again I'm being way too brief here so let's not hair split too much on this.)
When we fall under the spell that there is a good and an evil we are assigning values or meanings. These meanings constitute our inner life or reality. If we are contemplating negativity all day pretty soon everything we think is negative and everything we experience is filtered through that negativity and then takes on the APPEARANCE of being all negative. We all know sorry souls who are always seeing everything in a catastrophic light. Conversely, if we are always positive we create a positive filter and life's experiences appear all positive.
It is about choice. We can choose how we perceive life and how we act within it. There are the so-called negative things out there. But guess what - if the so-called Bad Guys weren't pulling their crap how many would be waking up to a Greater Reality right now? So in this regard negative or so-called evil people are performing a positive change in humanity even though our little egos want to condemn it all. A master of life would look equally upon good and bad because in the Grand Scheme of things who really knows WTF is going on? Maintaining balance, poise and equilibrium in all things and events is the mark of a mature character and soul. And that is the ultimate aim of so many of these so-called New Agers - balance in all things but not being a doormat doing it. We can be calm and content but not allow bullies to walk all over us. Self respect is an attribute of the awakened person.
May I challenge you to move past "negative" and "positive?"
My friend, and he is a good person, wants to see me "happier" and so is "introducing" me to concepts I delved deeply into for years. He feels I am swamped in "negative." I believe I am facing truth with an unblinking stare. It is not bliss, but I have no desire to swallow more lies so that I may enjoy a state of bliss.
I cry some times (genuine tears, not those things Glenn Beck squirts) for the suffering in this world that comes form the twisting of truth. But I would not go back to my sleeping state even if I could. Only truth is going to lead to anything that is REALLY good.
Again, if thoughts can create reality, blind people would see. There are children born with two perfectly functioning eyes, but if they do not point straight together, the brain will shut down the images coming from one of the eyes, leaving the child functionally blind. This happens to a CHILD with no reason to "think" this upon themselves.
THOUGHTS HAVE POWER - that is truth. The subtle lies they have wrapped around that truth will keep the average person from ever claiming the power of their thoughts. They will always know that it does not work every time (even if they vocalize another reality, I am certain everyone who ascribes to this belief system is harboring knowledge of a personal failure that they accept the blame for, rather than accept that the Universe does NOT bend to their will "every time.")
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
this is beautiful..
one HAS TO move past 'positive' and 'negative'.
most people on this plane don't like to hear truth unless it is 'happy' news.
if it challenges one's survival or the status quo ... the labels of 'fearmongering' start to show up.
one thing i have observed about my own progress... the more i do the disciplines of c&e and remote viewing ... the more 'truth' stuff/info would show up in my reality.
my major block in both those disciplines is 'truth'. for example -- i won't remote view missing people. i have briefly gone down the nsa rabbit holes of missing people. i don't wanna know. so i create my own block in moving forward.
kudos to you. truth may be dark and uncomfortable. the more you can handle ... the further you will progress.
ram has said... there is stuff he just won't tell us 'cause it would bruise our soul. how sad is that?!! the book 'transformation of america' was mandatory reading. twice. i skimmed it. i couldn't digest it. it was so 'out there' i just blew it off. well... ram says ... the reality is even worse that what is in that book.
you wanna talk about the brain... reading and thinking are activities of the neocortex. its just a book. i am blocking reading and contemplating a 'book'.
remote viewing and creating reality occurs in the midbrain.
something to think about ...
if you want to 'really' see things as they are and 'really' create reality you have to REALLY be able to look truth in the eye.
so you keep on: "...facing truth with an unblinking stare". :)
It appears your friend is
It appears your friend is seeing negatively when he sees you as being negative. Tricky this mind stuff...
Thoughts do create reality. But not the thoughts your thinking. I did say this is a complex topic and to cover all the bases we will need more time and attention to considerable details.
Tying one's shoe is done by thought but on a so-called subconscious level. We are barely aware of the shoe tying process. Same for any number of acts we do everyday. A tied shoe is a different reality than an untied shoe. So thoughts on deeper levels do induce action which brings about change. Now, how deep can thoughts be within our consciousness? Way deeper than most would be willing to believe....
The poor starving crippled child somewhere in Africa is a classic denial mechanism. How can it be? How can a loving all powerful God allow such a thing? How could the child think themselves into such a state?
If God did it all we would not need free will. Since we do have free will then God's role is considerably diminished.
First off we are not materialistic animals suffering blindly through the chaos of life. We are spiritual beings having a material experience. A spiritual being is an awareness that can inhabit a body made mostly of water, animate it and use it for gaining or giving experiences.
The little starving crippled girl is giving herself some lessons. (Thoughts from deeper levels.) As life is all about WAKING up all her experiences are for waking up. Not only that but she is giving you opportunity to wake up to her and her community's plight - and to ask these kinds of questions. Yes, Virginia, there are unselfish people out there.) For all this to work you have to let go of some materialistic beliefs such as we are born, live and die as accidents or freaks of nature. Such an undeveloped view of life is pitiful at best and a crime when forced onto others. There is a scheme to life that goes beyond materialistic beliefs.
Life is experienced in the mind of the beholder. Same for pain, joy, love, fear and every other conscious reaction to that perceived and thought. As these attributes of mind are in the mind you have, potentially, complete control over them. As someone else said in this thread one can do wonders with practice and determination.
If life were all about sitting on a sunny beach in perfect weather and picking bananas and coconuts where would the growth be? The Blue Lagoon movie as unrealistic as any movie could get portrayed and idealic scenario. There would be little soul development in such a situation.
In this vein as we all are in process of waking up we have aided in the creation of the current world affairs so we can all wake up. The concern and fear gets our attention (cosmic two by four) and we start asking questions; i.e., seeking great knowledge and awareness of the reality surrounding us but mostly unknown.
I have
"New Age" beliefs, however, I do not go as far in my beliefs as some people. Without getting into too much detail, while having New Age beliefs, I also believe Jesus is my own personal savior. The way I look at it is this: If He could get angry enough to overturn the moneychangers' tables, then I can expect no less from myself.
I don't think my being a spiritual person means I am just supposed to stand by and do nothing about evil. I believe it's my job to see it, face it, do what I can to expose it and do what I can to overturn it...
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That's good.
I have reason to believe Jesus was just one of many enlightened beings that have come to help save us from ourselves.
Here's a interesting quote.
"We can accept God becoming Man to save Man, but not Man becoming God to save himself." - Vernon Howard
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I agree,
Oruval...he was just one of many...
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i don't have time for a rebuttal
but this article embraces the very thing that it is damning.
Good article. Nothing wrong
Good article. Nothing wrong with positive thinking etc. but the idea that thought creates reality without any kind of physical action is poppycock... ;-)
And unfortunately reality is about to kick a lot of positive thinkers who fall for this right in the cajones
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I've spent nearly
30 years investigating the very question you bring up. That Mind effects Matter is now proven. That Mind has a powerful effect on one's body is a given (see The Placebo Effect). So WHY and HOW does that happen? It is obvious it DOES HAPPEN and there is obviously some kind of science to explain it. You can, if interested, read some of my findings here though what is on these pages has been greatly superceded:
http://www.svpvril.com/Cosmology/cosunityTOC.html
This forum is not the place to discuss this - or maybe it is. This kind of knowledge is NOT so-called New Age. This is physics. That a world-wide awakening is going on since several decades and this knowledge is now getting into the public's hands does not a New Age make. What we have here is a COMPLETE paradigm shift as humanity accepts new realities that were once downplayed because some insane power monger wanted people to be stupid, dumb, ignorant and controllable. This time period is about WAKING THE F___ UP! So let's get with it. Let go of the past and all of its unfounded beliefs, superstitions, fears and myths. Just let it all go....
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I agree.
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Poppy Cock you say?
So exactly what starts a storm in the first place? You take away the human body around the nervous system and it's a light show.. What you just said is the equalivent of thinking that electricity moving through a copper wire won't light a light bulb.
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What is
electricity?
What is light?
A wave or a particle? That's where the question should go.
it's a form of energy just like everything else.
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*muah*
beautiful.