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3 police killed during a standoff in Pittsburgh - update

Here is the UPI Story

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/04/04/Pittsburgh-officers-k...

Local news is saying that the guy had an AK-47, A Long Rifle, and a Pistol.

Police were called as part of a domestic dispute, though some are saying that they were also going to issue a warrant.

Someone else claimed he was a gun rights activist.

Details are still sketchy

Update - The police have had a news conference, and cleared up a few things. First, The shooter was waiting for the police, and shot them as they knocked on the door. Not clear which gun he used, but any would have worked. The third Officer was coming to their aid when he was shot. Swat arrived later, and it was then he apparently held them at bay with his AK.

Also, the police apparently knew something about the guns prior to going to the house, since it was part of the subject of the call. He had apparently been out Drinking friday night late, and got into a fight with his mother. She apparently told police something about the guns he had, though it is not clear exactly what.

The police have not mentioned anything about his profile, other than they had been called to the house before. The press on the other hand is going wild with it . This is big in Pittsburgh, since there has not been an officer killed since 1995, and 1983 before that.

My speculation is that he and his mom were fighting, since he was still a little drunk from the night before. She called the police, and told them he was threatening with guns, or maybe told them he had illegal guns, whci set him off, and convinced him he had to defend his rights - he apparently told a friend he was going to die today.

This is all a shame for many reasons.

Update II - IT WAS DOG PISS. Here is the latest explanation. http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=dog++poplawski

This is unbelievable.



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It is sad when people get killed while doing their jobs, but

people are afraid of cops these days with all the abuses they are committing, with all mistreatment and lets not forget all the unjustified murders yes "murders" cops have recently done, and if his statement of being afraid of Obama taking his guns away are true or just and excuse to justify his actions, one must ask, would I have done the same, now I yet to know what officially provoke him to take such measures, but lets say his statement is true and he was afraid of the government, would we hold it against him when we know people are getting tired of all the daily abuses being committed against them, yes there are crazy people with guns, but there are also crazy cops with guns to.

he felt Obama was gonna take his guns and his rights were being

infringed upon, story here
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090404/ap_on_re_us/pittsburgh_s...

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Why?

It says they were serving a warrant?

Did they shoot at him first? What was the warrant for?

So many details left blank. All i know is that his 'friend' has zeitgeist on his blog. They keep saying he was stockpiling weapons and food.

Details Appear

sketchy so far and we need to know what the warrant was - maybe domestic battery but only guessing. I found a police chief in Seattle answered why police abuse their power with the citizens - the chief responded,
"So, why did I abuse the very people I'd been hired to serve?

Not to get too psychological, I did it because the power of my position went straight to my head; because other cops I'd come to admire did it; and because I thought I could get away with it. Which I did--until a principled prosecutor slapped me upside the head and demanded to know whether the U.S. Constitution meant anything to me."

Link is here: http://www.flexyourrights.org/ and scroll down to why police abuse their power.

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Beware of drugged agent provocateurs

Beware of drugged agent provocateurs... they are indeed sad cases and sad people who murder and harm helpless citizens as well as local police officers, adding and abetting the increase of senseless class warfare; but worse, the perpetrators are sadly needed for the changes necessary in reducing a once great constitutional republic, by deception, into the communist state on behalf of the Third Internationale!

From one who was a cop! Check the history of these victims/perpetrators, for psych involvement, use of drugs like Ritalin, Lithium, etc. under care of 'shrink', history of electro-shock, hypnotism, or any time spent in psych wards or hospitals... then Google Mk Ultra project and Monarch Mind Control projects as a division of Mk Ultra. Avoid the agents who create the mythical and alien type nonsense concerning these subjects, for the need to debunk the official agencies involved has created much myth. But, congress has spent some time in hearing concerning these agencies and departments, along with their perpetrators, so the subject is not entirely bogus.

Of note: the Mk Ultra psych director most interviewed by congress, through FOIA request, just happens to also be the most frequent visitor on the jail log books, visiting the erstwhile Timothy McVeigh while he was awaiting trial!

You will be surprised how many of the last 40 years of gun massacres have commonality! And how many of the last 40 years of guns incidents and airline hijacking incidents coincide with gun related legislation!!

"Suspicion is a Virtue, if in the interests of the good of the people." Patrick Henry

JS Bach, thank you for your comments. This is a huge concern

within our movement to take back our country through peaceful, political means.

I applaud your pointing out the very, very distinct patterns here of 'programmed' perpetrators throughout the years and gun control legislation. And of course, when Michael Moore made the docu film, 'Columbine', you know darn well he was commissioned to make that film. It was one of the most 'manipulative' films ever made, to help 'manufacture' consent of the masses to support 'disarming' the citizens.

Almost every one of those 'perpetrators' had a psychiatric background, was on some kind of psychotropic drugs and no doubt became perfect specimens for their psychiatric 'handler'.

Well one funny coincidence

Is that the Shooter was a failed marine - apparently didn't get much past boot camp.

bumping this reply

"from one who was a cop"

Listen up, folks. This is truth.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

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The facts of this case are not known

yet, but I'll guess that in a free and armed society there would be occasional nuts who'd be trigger happy. And I support freedom taking that risk. It seems far smaller than the risk of only government being armed.

What percentage of cops misuse guns compared to private armed citizens?
I think the percentage of private misuse is minuscule by comparison (especially if we discount drug dealers, a class created by government.) But we seldom hear demands to disarm police -- why?

And if police understand any citizen may be armed, perhaps caution and courtesy would see a revival; that would surely foster a more peaceable society.

CRAP...

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/was-pittsburgh-shoot...

The left is already demonizing "us"... the Ron Paul / Glenn Beck people... i don't agree with Glenn Beck, but we are all getting thrown in together.

"best friend"'s myspace profile... http://www.myspace.com/edfromalate

possibly shooters profile ... http://www.myspace.com/richp

Notice Zeitgeist and anti-Zionism on friends profile.

Perhaps you can find more about the friend Edward or Eddie Perkovic

They allegedly ran an 'unsuccessful' internet radio show together.

Richard Poplawski
Richard Poplawski: Two profiles emerge
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09094/960662-100.stm
Saturday, April 04, 2009
By Dennis B. Roddy, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Friends described a Richard Poplawski far different from the 22-year-old man accused of gunning down three police officers today -- a partier sometimes, a guy in search of an understanding of politics, even a walking comedian.

He was also convinced that the government wanted to take away his guns and his freedom.

Richard Poplawski
"I've known this kid my entire life and he was a good kid. He never had bad intentions. He never spoke about harming anybody," said Edward Perkovic, a lifelong friend who had known Mr. Poplawski since the two paired up at a daycare.

More later....

On MSN

PITTSBURGH - A man opened fire on officers during a domestic disturbance call Saturday morning, killing three of them, a police official said.( Friends said he recently had been upset about losing his job and that he FEARED THE Obama ADMINISTRATION WAS POISED TO BAN GUNS.)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30043893

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Don't know the truth of this but sounds interesting.

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How many of these recent shooters are taking ANTI-DEPRESSANTS?

you know the answer as well as I do

ALL of them, I have no doubt.

They realize they are not coping, so they do the "right" thing and "get help" and "take a pill."

Then they join this list:
www.ssristories.com

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

lol read this snipped from the article...

"four police officers were killed March 21 in Oakland, Calif., in the deadliest day for U.S. law enforcement since Sept. 11, 2001. "

The day after they killed 2000+ of us doesn't even come close, but nice try anti-gun lunatics.

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One by one, they will take us out

There is enough in legalizeliberty's update to make it very easy to identify with this man. Which one of us has not had a terrible day, when we felt all our efforts were in vain and that our children were destined to die as slaves to the Rothschilds? And can you guarantee that if you lost your job, and then your spouse had a bad day too, that you can not imagine yourself in this position? That phone call to his friend, that is heart breaking.

Why do policemen go to domestic disputes? Why is there no crisis team available, why do we send men with guns to people in distress?

Call me cold hearted, but I feel far more sympathy for the shooter than I do for the policemen who showed up with nothing in their hearts that sought to HELP this family.

Do NOT pretend I don't know what I am talking about. I have a whole family full of policemen, firemen and paramedics and they LIVE for the tones to drop so they can go play hero. If they had the heart of a hero, they would show up with an attitude of "How can I make this better?" Instead they show up looking to arrest someone.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

The guy was 23 living with mom and grandmother

Maybe he couldn't get a good job or whatever.

Point is 3 cops got killed and more injured because they tried to rush in and take him down thinking they were bad ass. They also were no heroes since they shot back and injured him too.

They should have just treated him like a human and waited for him to come out. I doubt he was torturing the parents he lives with.

All the parents would have to do is leave and or call the cops on him when he wasn't there.

Most cops = bullies and thugs.

They probably had no warrant.

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Glenn Beck Supports NAFTA and taking your job:
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here is an update

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090404/world/pittsburgh_s...

interesting part quote:
Friends said he had been upset recently about losing his job and that he feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government -- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."
-- Patrick Henry

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Hey thanks for the update, I posted without reading it above

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Glenn Beck Supports NAFTA and taking your job:
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Those in government

who are aiming at disarming the USA must be so happy, as this is another incident they will clock up for the record of convincing people to hand in their guns. They might even think that they don't have to hand out a rose or a food voucher in exchange for weapons being handed in.

This is a possible false flag to be used to attack our 2nd amend

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

Wacko or not....

The administration WILL use this as propaganda to continue to force the american people to be unarmed slaves who silently serve their lords.

"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."

"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."

Sounds like a patriot so far to me

I wonder if they are going to say he beat his wife and was a deadbeat dad or an 'isolated ticking time bomb just waiting to go off'.

It's almost always the same in these stores.

What is there to believe anymore?

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Glenn Beck Supports NAFTA and taking your job:
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Yep...

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careful who you sympathies

careful who you sympathies with before you get all the details. You really don't want to associate yourself with a POSSIBLE wacko.

hey! I resemble that remark!

Although, I am not a "possible" wacko.... I am a WACKO!
And damn happy to be one.

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

LOL

"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."

I want to associate with nothing but whackos and kooks

Only thing I have against this guy at this point is #4 & #5.

20 hours speaking here

We are long past over being called names, but we are always glad to welcome a new pet troll. Or are you just a reincarnation?

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

I have been on here for over

I have been on here for over 1.5 years, voted for Ron Paul and attended the washington march. I am just sick of people taking every single news story and twisting their way. It is no better than what the enemies do.