FBI warns of crescendo of Public concern about Obama eligibility

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Sounds like...

The perfect coup

By Cynthia A. Janak

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/janak/081027

Am I missing something? Where's the actual source?

I just looked all over the fbi and intraguard sites and found nothing. Can someone point me to the report?

The report

Is in the body of this article
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message757368/pg1

"Obamney care," Nuff said.

I meant an actual source

What we currently have is hearsay.

FBI Infraguard AZ

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"Obamney care," Nuff said.

More on CFL site

The phone number

Is listed too.

"Obamney care," Nuff said.

godlikeproductions is a blog site

Anyone can state on it whatever they wish.

Where is the credibility, or verifiability, of any of this ?

Same thought...

A source would be nice... anyone could have typed this.

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Let's be careful with this.

First, it is a blog article by DefendUSx on Defend Our Freedoms ( http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/FBI-InfraGard-warns-of-a-... ), with no link to the original report.
Second, the above headline is misleading. According to the blog article, the FBI did not "issue a warning", but tasked InfraGard with determining what issues MAY provide flashpoints for civil unrest. I would opine most anyone on this board could and would come up with the same list of POTENTIAL flashpoints, and Ocit was one of many.

Before making any assumptions, we need to see the actual "unclassified" report.

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Why let a few minor "details"

stand in the way of a sensational topic title ?

This appeared 4/6/09: Defining Article 2, Section 1 in Context

This is a large article citing Supreme Court decisions.

Excerpt:

Although President Obama has a Kenyan father, and was later adopted by an Indonesian National, the fact that his mother was a citizen should legitimize his being born a U.S. citizen. It is unlikely his birth certificate would indicate that he is born of some other lineage, however his birth certificate is sealed and the public does not have access to his records.

What is equally relevant to his current legitimacy as president is whether his citizenship was renounced when he moved to Indonesia with his mother and adopted father and attended a Muslim school.

In 2004, A bill (S.2128) to define the term "natural born Citizen" as used in the Constitution of the United States to establish eligibility for the Office of President was introduced by Sen. Don Nickles and was cosponsored by Sen. James Inhofe and Sen. Mary Landrieu. The bill never became law.

There is a need to have an acceptable definition of natural-born citizen that cannot be politicized. The definition must be ensconced in the Constitution. Whether common law ideas or Vattel’s ideas prevail, we need to define what is to be acceptable in our Commander in Chief. Furthermore, evidence of birth in allegiance to the United States must be required of all candidates for president of the United States. All of the arguments made by the Framers regarding foreign influence must be taken into consideration because they knew then as we know now; the sovereignty of our great nation is at risk.

http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/nsalvato/2009/04062009.htm

It would be nice:

To have this answered once and for all. Then, none of his exec. orders would stand valid. Nothing he has done would be recognized.

" It goes on to warn that "if...Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation. The economic crisis coupled with this type of a constitutional crisis could prove to be a flashpoint that would test conventional law enforcement and elements of homeland security."

There should be nothing to test. They should all obey their oath of office and move on from there. The thing that really bothers me is that they have already decided to break the law no matter what happens. There should be no troops on our land and everyone enlisted should say no and keep their oath also.

"Upon the recommendation of the Army's Strategic Studies Institute, The Army Times reported that a somewhat euphemistically dubbed "Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF)," currently the role of the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team, but which, reportedly, might eventually comprise upwards of 80,000 troops, is being trained and readied to deal with what could be widespread civil disorder resulting from an "unforeseen economic collapse" or "loss of a functional political and legal order."
And since when have we actually had a functional political and legal order? Not in my life time.

"and there appears to be ample and justifiable cause for concern and appropriate contingency planning at every level of government."

Yea, I have seen this with my little local police dept. It used to be a nice small town and they were at local events, helpful and friendly with everyone.
Now they have run the old ones out and placed what appears to be some paramilitary group in its place.

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I am appalled by my government

I just sent to a zillion people

on my email list. Why do I love this so much, despite what may happen?

Ok...not a zillion.

I got carried away with the excitement of it all! :)

wierd

"if it "should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid.""

Well. You're the FBI. I'm pretty sure you could get ahold of my birth certificate if you wanted to. Clear it up for us.

Why not clear it up instead of preparing for a what if against the people, Find Out.

And then help us oust him, or show us he's legit.

My God!

Not only the Obama eligibility issue, but a "rogue nuclear electro-magnetic pulse" threat, economic collapse threat....
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I hate that this wasn't resolved before the election.

I'm really starting to think this is part of the plan to create civil unrest and implement martial law.

You know, I have been

You know, I have been wondering this about Glenn Beck and some of the other "conservative" talk show hosts. It could very well be that Glenn Beck is legit... he really does believe what he says he believes, and while he is wrong on many issues, he is trying to discover the truth (within the confines of Fox News, of course). However, they may be giving him a free reign to whip up the conservatives into a frenzy so that, like you said, we will start civil unrest.

We need to fight the urge to resort to violence very strongly. I feel that it is a trap that they are trying to set, and it will end very badly for us if we fall into it. Some may call me a defeatist, but this current battle may already be lost. If it comes to violent action, I think it is almost certainly lost, and to wage this battle in that way may very well lose the war.

I am not saying that we shouldn't do what we can to protest (peacefully), petition, or so-forth, but that we need to focus on education. I am amazed at how utterly blind people are in my church and community -- they simply cannot see what we have become in this country and where they are being led to. They continue to hold onto the old liberal-vs-conservative mindset and the pro-war philosophies without understanding that they compromise their claimed values in the process.

We cannot hope to have a restored republic without a restored public. We need to work on our culture -- on the hearts and minds of Americans -- to return critical thinking, a solid grasp and return to laws and ethics, and a love of liberty to the people of the United States. Only then can we hope to eradicate the disease that is threatening to tear us apart.

Great line!!

"We cannot hope to have a restored republic without a restored public."
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Drawing lines for division

And we know what they intend to do after they divide.

This will be played as a racism issue at every opportunity. The well known crime of "black male on Saturday night" will become rivalled by the crime of "white person not enthralled by Obama."

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