Obama Looking at Cooling to Fight Warming !

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Obama looking at cooling air to fight warming
AP

By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein, Ap Science Writer – 2 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Tinkering with Earth's climate to chill runaway global warming — a radical idea once dismissed out of hand — is being discussed by the White House as a potential emergency option, the president's new science adviser said Wednesday.

That's because global warming is happening so rapidly, John Holdren told The Associated Press in his first interview since being confirmed last month.

The concept of using technology to purposely cool the climate is called geoengineering. One option raised by Holdren and proposed by a Nobel Prize-winning scientist includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun's rays.

Using such an experimental measure is only being thought of as a last resort, Holdren said.

"It's got to be looked at," he said. "We don't have the luxury ... of ruling any approach off the table."

His concern is that the United States and other nations won't slow global warming fast enough and that several "tipping points" could be fast approaching. Once such milestones are reached, such as complete loss of summer sea ice in the Arctic, it increases chances of "really intolerable consequences," he said.

Twice in a half-hour interview, Holdren compared global warming to being "in a car with bad brakes driving toward a cliff in the fog."

He and many experts believe that warming of a few degrees more would lead to disastrous drought conditions and food shortages in some regions, rising seas and more powerful coastal storms in others.

At first, Holdren characterized the potential need to technologically tinker with the climate as just his personal view. However, he went on to say he has raised it in administration discussions.

"We're talking about all these issues in the White House," Holdren said. "There's a very vigorous process going on of discussing all the options for addressing the energy climate challenge."

Holdren said discussions include Cabinet officials and heads of sub-Cabinet level agencies, such as NASA and the Environmental Protection Agency.

The 65-year-old physicist is far from alone in taking geoengineering seriously. The National Academy of Sciences is making it the subject of the first workshop in its new climate challenges program for policymakers, scientists and the public. The British Parliament has also discussed the idea. At an international meeting of climate scientists last month in Copenhagen, 15 talks dealt with different aspects of geoengineering.

The American Meteorological Society is crafting a policy statement that says "it is prudent to consider geoengineering's potential, to understand its limits and to avoid rash deployment."

Last week, Princeton scientist Robert Socolow told the National Academy that geoengineering should be an available option in case climate worsens dramatically.

Holdren, a 1981 winner of a MacArthur Foundation "genius" grant, outlined these possible geoengineering options:

• Shooting sulfur particles (like those produced by power plants and volcanoes, for example) into the upper atmosphere, an idea that gained steam when it was proposed by Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen in 2006. It would be "basically mimicking the effect of volcanoes in screening out the incoming sunlight," Holdren said.

• Creating artificial "trees" — giant towers that suck carbon dioxide out of the air and store it.

The first approach would "try to produce a cooling effect to offset the heating effect of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases," Holdren said.

But he said there could be grave side effects. Studies suggest that might include eating away a large chunk of the ozone layer above the poles and causing the Mediterranean and the Mideast to be much drier.

And those are just the predicted problems. Scientists say they worry about side effects that they don't anticipate.

While the idea could strike some people as too risky, the Obama administration could get unusual support on the idea from groups that have often denied the harm of global warming in the past.

The conservative think tank American Enterprise Institute has its own geoengineering project, saying it could be "feasible and cost-effective." And Cato Institute scholar Jerry Taylor said Wednesday: "Very few people would rule out geoengineering on its face."

Holdren didn't spell out under what circumstances such extreme measures might ever be called for. And he emphasized they are not something to rely on.

"It would be preferable by far," he said, "to solve this problem by reducing emissions of greenhouse gases."

Yet there is already significant opposition building to the House Democratic leaders' bill aimed at achieving President Barack Obama's goal of cutting greenhouse gas emissions 20 percent by 2020 and 80 percent by 2050.

Holdren said temperatures should be kept from rising more than 3.6 degrees. To get there, he said the U.S. and other industrial nations have to begin permanent dramatic cuts in carbon dioxide pollution by 2015, with developing countries following suit within a decade.

Those efforts are racing against three tipping points he cited: Earth could be as close as six years away from the loss of Arctic summer sea ice, he said, and that has the potential of altering the climate in unforeseen ways. Other elements that could dramatically speed up climate change include the release of frozen methane from thawing permafrost in Siberia, and more and bigger wildfires worldwide.

The trouble is that no one knows when these things are coming, he said.

Holdren also addressed other topics during the interview:

GOD BLESS US ALL

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"scientists say there may be side

effects that haven't been considered." Arrogant government tinkerers may kill us all yet.

Yes as in sulfuric acid falling on the plantlife that produces

our O2. These Bozos are out to exterminate a percentage of the population that leaves the Earth as they say "sustainable".
Rule # 1. Don`t f##k with Mother nature.

I saw this headline today and had to laugh

" Obama May Block Sun's Rays to End Global Warming". Just ...sounded funny. Like something one must undertake in tights and a cape. Then I got that song from the South Park movie stuck in my head called "What would Brian Boitano do?" If your not familiar, the kids have elevated Brian Boitano to super-human status. In the song, Boitano skates through circles in the 1988 Olympic Winter Games, fights grizzly bears (in the Alps) with his fire breath, saves fair maidens, travels through time to the year 3010, fights an evil robot king, saves the human race (again), and builds the Great Pyramids of Egypt while beating up Kublai Khan, because he "doesn't take sh*t from anybody".
"What would Brian Boitano do if he were here today? He'd kick an a$$ or two- thats what Brian Boitano'd do.."
Just thought I'd share a little free- association with yáll : )

The problem with this report is

that everything the elites say is basically the opposite of what they mean. They are doing whatever NOW, it is not speculative. They are discussing results, not possible results. So far, they imply they are fighting global warming, but in fact, they are causing global warming. They are seeding the clouds and then we don't get the rain we normally do. There are drought conditions in many places. They cause the wild fires themselves. Whatever has happened to the ozone, they have caused. They blame the people for eveything, but the corporations are the ones who are doing things on purpose. The cars are not at fault, the population is not a problem. Yes, we are somewhat messy, but that could be turned around in a day. Trash could be easily used for energy if the elites would allow it to happen. When they are ready, the earth's problems are easily reversed, but they have other agendas and want to make the problems as big as possible to effect the changes they want that are unnatural. But our stupid people believe that we are overpopulated, etc.

These are excellent

observations, and stated so eloquently. I couldn't have said it better myself.

The Rockefellers and Rothschilds are pushing the global warming thing big time. What hypocrites. They have made tons of money from spewing pollution everywhere. Hypocrisy means nothing to a psychopath.

Chem trails anyone ?

Chem trails anyone ?

you should link to the original piece

I searched for it and I found this piece refuting it from Dec 2008...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/12/15/scient...

I don't doubt that the Obama administration would do something as cockamamie as this. What would be nice to see is how much of the stimulus spending is going to this project in an updated, current story.