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Obama to push immigration bill this year

Submitted by Warriorjason on Thu, 04/09/2009 - 05:24
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Well it's started. The continuation of Bush/ McCain's amnesty bill for over 12 million illegal immigrant who did not follow our laws.

Though not surprisingly, Mr. Obama is actually going to try and push this through this year.

This is also just one more example of where Obama and Bush are the same.

We need to start contacting our Senators and Representatives about this issue. IT'S NOT REFORM, IT'S AMNESTY. We killed this when Bush tried to ram it down our throats now we are going to have to kill it again.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/09/us/politics/09immig.html?_...

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VP Biden: Amnesty at Odds With Economic Reality

Submitted by bobbyw24 on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 07:05.

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VP Biden: Amnesty at Odds With Economic Reality

Submitted by bobbyw24 on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 07:05.

http://tinyurl.com/dhe5jl

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VP Biden: Amnesty at Odds With Economic Reality

Submitted by bobbyw24 on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 07:03.

http://tinyurl.com/dhe5jl

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VP Biden: Amnesty at Odds With Economic Reality

Submitted by bobbyw24 on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 07:01.

http://tinyurl.com/dhe5jl

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Submitted by Fountainhead on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 06:19.

Thanks for posting this important info Jason!

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Start Sending those faxes again like in 2005

Submitted by bobbyw24 on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 05:58.

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Fax the Prez Today

Submitted by bobbyw24 on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 06:00.

http://www.numbersusa.com/dfax?id=11146

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US Constitution first

Submitted by Warriorjason on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 05:47.

This is a constitutional issue. The US Constitution says that our federal government must protect the borders and resist foreign invasions. (para-phrase)

There is a right way to come into this country, and there is a wrong way.

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The Constitution ahead of liberty?

Submitted by atrickpay on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 17:31.

Excuse me, the Constitution does not come before liberty.
That is a tyrannical statement that the good founders (ie. Jefferson, Paine, Henry, Mason, etc) would have not accepted.

double post

Submitted by atrickpay on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 17:31.

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Why not take the libertarian position on this Warriorjason?

Submitted by atrickpay on Thu, 04/09/2009 - 23:43.

I agree with what Sheldon Richman said:

"Ron Paul says he's against amnesty for migrants without government papers. I am too. Amnesty is a pardon for wrong-doing. Why would migrants without government papers need a pardon? They've done nothing wrong."

I agree with the position

Submitted by stickles on Thu, 04/09/2009 - 23:51.

I agree with the position but my family understands that there are exceptions that aren't covered by this. My sister is married with a child to a man who was brought here as an illegal by his parent when he was about 12. He has no status yet he works and files taxes and all of that. Because he has no status when they got married he had no status to change so technically he is still an illegal even though he has spent his adult life here working and paying taxes. Under the current law he would have to return to Mexico for a year then pay money and return to the U.S. That of course isn't feasible because there is a child between them.

He should have the right to have his status reviewed or be allowed to take the citizenship test and be treated as a legal immigrant.

Dr. Paul is right on this whole thing though....take away the incentives to illegally immigrate here and you fix the biggest part of the problem.

That's a lousy situation that your

Submitted by atrickpay on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 00:01.

brother in law is in.

He should have the right to have his status reviewed or be allowed to take the citizenship test and be treated as a legal immigrant.

For sure. However analyzing this from an idealistic perspective, I 'm not sure that the concept of citizenship to a government (the notion that the citizen belongs to the State) can be compatible with the principles of liberty.

Dr. Paul is right on this whole thing though....take away the incentives to illegally immigrate here and you fix the biggest part of the problem.

But is that likely to happen? Probably not. I could only see it coming about if there isn't enough buyers of government debt to finance those programs...

So, yes, Ron is right on that part of it. But he's wrong (as per libertarian principles) to use force to prevent individuals from exercising their god-given right to free-association.

Just because there is one wrong (welfare programs, etc), doesn't justify a 2nd wrong (restrictions on free-association).

bump

Submitted by quiltingsando on Thu, 04/09/2009 - 22:36.

I guess things are going to get confusing since Obama claimed he was change, looks like he's more of the SAME.

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