This is how you stand up for your RIGHTS in Amerika
This guy is the wolf that the judge spoke of in "A Nation of Sheep." We can all learn something from him.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." - 4th Amendment of the US Constitution
Highlights:
(5:35) Agent whips out his nun chucks in anger
(7:45-8:00) The agent tells me in less than perfect English, "In the Border Patrol Checkpoint, the person's rights doesn't matter here."
(16:50-17:10) I'm told that the police will arrive in less than 10 minutes to arrest me
(19:00-19:40) I'm accused of being a terrorist
(26:20) I'm told that I'm free to go without being searchedThank God we live in a free country! But how long will our freedom last if we ignore our Bill of Rights?
The highest power in the US government is the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land...not border patrol agents on a power trip that are about 75 miles from the border.
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Here's part two
What happens when your right and you know it..this guy deserves our upmost respect as he could of just complied and not shown you the true extent of their lawlessness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=channel&v=bJF5cUWXA_A
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"where are your papers? Where you going? Who do you work for?
It's getting bad........
Supreme Court Citations?
These officers imply on more than one occasion that the Supreme Court allows them to conduct a warrantless search on basically no suspicion (or on false suspicion that they dream up on-the-fly as is increasingly rampant among law enforcement of late). The Supreme Court has ruled:
"The Fourth Amendment [is] held to forbid Border Patrol officers, in the absence of consent or probable cause, to search private vehicles at traffic checkpoints removed from the border and its functional equivalents..." --United States v. Ortiz, 422 U.S. 891
...and...
"It is agreed that checkpoint stops are 'seizures' within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment." - UNITED STATES v. MARTINEZ-FUERTE, 428 U.S. 543
...not to mention that the card personally handed to the driver by one of these "officers" clearly states that specific, reasonable suspicion is required for a search. Nevertheless, regardless of what the card says, if it conflicts with the Constitution then it is trumped by the Constitution, which is the highest law in the land. There are several other researchable Supreme Court cases specifically related to internal checkpoints which directly refute the officers' statements in this video.
I find it laughable that one of the "officers", sworn to uphold the Constitution, instructs the driver that he needs to educate himself. It seems to me that there is, in fact, a desperate need for education in this instance, but not on the part of the driver.
In modern times, when an individual declines to consent to an illegal, suspicionless search, such refusal *IS* probable cause for a search in the brainwashed minds of the majority of law enforcement officers. "If you have nothing to hide then you'll consent to a search; otherwise, you must be guilty of something, so I'm going to search anyway." Personally, I have not been inclined to subject myself to such petty "logic" since I last heard it on the playground sometime around the third grade. "Oh yeah?! Well then prove it!"
Also, what happened to the burden of proof being on the accuser? If these so-called law enforcement "professionals" suspect that the driver is in violation of immigration laws, or that he has illegal contraband in his vehicle, then they need to accuse him of a specific suspicion, along with good reason/evidence supporting specific probable cause, then conduct a search. But what we have here is a case of, "I think you might have done something wrong. I'm not sure exactly what, or even why I think it, but the burden is on you, the accused, to prove me wrong."
I will side with one of the officers when he indicated that the driver was acting in an unusual manner in comparison to the general flow of sheep passing through that checkpoint on a regular basis. They are not used to individuals standing up for their rights - it is sadly unusual these days. It is, however, ironic that an individual asserting his Constitutional rights instills intimidation and suspicion in the minds of officers sworn to uphold our Constitutional rights. WTF?!
Now I do understand that these officers are just doing their collective job and *think* they are doing some good for the country. However, they do so not realizing that they are being used as pawns of obedience training for the next steps of slowly eroding the Constitution, as carefully planned by the men behind the curtain - their unseen masters. This is exactly and precisely the reason that the most desirable quality for a DHS/Immigration law enforcement candidate is that he or she is just intelligent enough to blindly follow orders, even if done so against the officers' own conscience, and regardless of whether or not such orders violate the Constitution, but not intelligent enough to think outside the box and ask questions. This is quite clearly demonstrated in the video above. And the bottom line is that these checkpoints are doing very little to protect our country albeit it at great cost of operation to the taxpayers - research the statistics. Never mind the DHS/Border Patrol agent corruption cases stacking up by the week.
I feel much safer with these checkpoints in existence and I definitely feel that the taxpayers are getting bang for their hard-earned bucks. [/sarcasm]
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." - Thomas Jefferson
"Under the law of nature, all men are born free, every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the liberty of moving and using it at his own will. This is what is called personal liberty, and is given him by the Author." - Thomas Jefferson
"Liberty cannot be preserved without general knowledge among the people." - John Adams
"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety, and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin
"Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedoms of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison
"...if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves." - Winston Churchill
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"A government big enough to supply you with everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have..." - Thomas Jefferson
I won't keep you guys up all night with these quotes, but suffice it to say that the Founding Fathers and many, many other important historical figures throughout recorded history warned us, in volume and in detail, about things like you see in this video.
God bless you sir...
THAT took some guts.
The Constitution lives!
The only sticking point is that line in the 4th Ammendment that says "unreasonable" search. In their minds they were not being unreasonable because he wasn't acting like a sheeple and just succumbing to their wishes.
But does that in itself warrant probable cause?
It's all very vague sometimes.
But he just about set a precedent here because they released him without a search.
This guy is a real patriot.
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
Matthew 5:38-42
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.
All throughout the bible God
All throughout the bible God sends his people into battle to slay and overthrow evil, sinister powers that have infected nations with their iniquity and tyranny.
Even Jesus himself scorned, resisted, physically assaulted and drove out the bankers who were making a mockery of His temple.
"Vengeance is mine" sayeth the Lord... but clearly His people are the vehicle time after time for enacting His vengeance against evil powers. If you like I can probably cite well over 100 instances of this, given adequate time to find, copy and paste the verses.
And...
your point is? What if the guy doesn't believe in propaganda?
I agree: 60 seconds and this
I agree: 60 seconds and this guy's being a jerk. 60 more seconds and he's still being a jerk. Its somewhat amusing to see him antagonize these rednecks into being jerks back at him, but its also disheartening to see this guy set them up like this. I advise viewers to wake up and recognise a game when they see one. Huh. Now I don't want to view the "beaten pastor" video because I'm already suspicious of it.
"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"
How Ironic Your Username is Fightapathy - You're the Jerk
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
To Sthomas
"No, YOU don't get it. I agree, there "should not" be any suspicion-less checkpoints. But thats not the point. It is not our job to judge the law in reference to the Constitution. That's the job of the Supreme Court, and if they uphold the stupid law, then its a legal law. If they have not heard the case, then it is still a legal law until the case is heard by the court."
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WHY DON'T YOU WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO, AS HE STATES THE HE HAS READ THE LAW, AND I QUOTE "I'M REQUIRED TO STOP HERE by LAW, BUT NOT REQUIRED TO LET YOU SEARCH MY PERSON OR VEHICLE UNDER THE 4TH AMENDMENT."
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"Real Freedom is self-rule, but it is understanding what Individual Liberty and Individual Rights are not just for yourself, but also respecting those rights of other people and conducting yourself in a manner by your own actions, not law, so that you dont infringe on the liberties of other people."
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weren't his liberties infringe by the "border" patrol?, isn't his right under the 4th amendment to tell the "border" patrol to F**k off, being infringe?, nor more can I infringe in other peoples liberties when the government is the one infringing on mine that causes other peoples liberties to be infringe.
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"This asshole had no consideration what so ever for the probably hundreds of other vehicles, cars and trucks that were behind him. No, it was ALL ABOUT HIM and his stupid little statement. He's damn lucky they didnt arrest him and jail him until he could show proof of citizenship."
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That's like blaming a delicious krispy kreme doughnut for giving you a stomachache, no more is the doughnut at fault for you wanting to eat it and causing you stomach pain, than a person causing a traffic jammed who was stop involuntarily with out as much as a reason to, those check points are not at the border! they are inland 25 to 100 miles inside the U.S, if you want to blame some one for causing traffic problems than that blame is on the border/very far from border "patrol".
They're excuse for the check points is to do a better job at securing our "border", so let me get this right in order to secure our borders they have to secure very far from the border, in case they didn't secure the front correctly, this is me here but, how about securing the damn border at the border!!!
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"We need critical mass in order to affect popular opinion and subsequently elections. Being a minority isnt going to cut it. But let me clue you in on something. A lot more people are a lot more libertarian than you think. I run across people EVERY DAY and discuss political philosophy, not parties, with them. But these people are good, honest, law abiding people with ethics as well. Stunts like this turn those people off, and it turns them into Republicans. And unless you got a whole slew of strict constitutionalists, socially liberal republicans, we dont want that, because it ends up being where we are now .. left vs right with a slow climb towards tyranny."
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A what if,
hey John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Sam Adams, Benjamin Franklin etc.. your stunts of liberty and freedom from a tyrant is sure turning me off, I might just have to turn in to a royalist if you dare stand up for your rights given to you by your creator.
Patriot Act
The Patriot Act took your forth and fifth admendments.
It's why Democrats call Republicans "racisist"... you didn't protest when Bush signed the Patriot Act, so why protest now when Obama is only practicing the laws Bush established, or act like you don't know the Patriot Act replaced your fourth and fifth amendment rights.
Looks to me, the best fight is being established by the ACLU, not the GOP.
It appears to me, the stupid people, are those who do not understand The Patriot Act.
WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
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You seem happy
the Patriot Act replaced the Constitution. Good job!! How many Bush lovers have you noticed on this site?
60 seconds into this video
60 seconds into this video and I can tell the driver is being an idiot. Its people like this that give the liberty movement a bad name.
Why don't you try having an attention span of longer than 60 sec
At 19:20 in the video, they say they are pretty sure he is a terrorist.
They also admit they don't know why they are detaining him or what reason they need to search him for.
They also threaten him with a weapon.
They also say that he has no rights at a checkpoint.
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Ron Paul's Convention Speech
So, at what point do you fight the power?
Do you wait until everything sacred is gone?
For Freedom!
For Freedom!
STUGOTS! To the high and felutent establishment!
Paultian Powerhouse!
Only a True Idiot Would Call a Defender of Rights an Idiot.
And in the video, who are the idiots?
The ones baselessly accusing people of being terrorists, detaining people and trying to intimidate and force people to be searched even though they admit they have no reason?
Or the person that just wants to be left alone and his rights respected?
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Ron Paul's Convention Speech
These people are not
Only idiots, but physcopaths and they KNOW they don't want to lose they're power that is derived FROM THE SYSTEM. They are the worst kind, they have sold out humanity to be above all of this. You only have two options in this system, you can be a slave or you dominate the slaves. Take your pick.
You know, the only thing I
You know, the only thing I can be grateful for about having so many young, immature people "part" of this movement .. is that it probably means you are under 21 and youthful. Thats good qualities to have in the event of a war. Hope you can fire a gun too. We might need people like you willing to fight for the cause when things get real serious. Once you get above 30 its pretty hard to stay up for 3 days straight in a war environment. So, yea .. you will probably have your "role".
You think its "cool" to be a rebel? Do you think this is some sort of stupid fad against the "establishment". Grow the EFF up. Its much more important than that, and we have to fight it properly to win it and refrain from throwing immature little tizzies like this. Hell, back when I was about the age you all seem to show, at least the rebels of my time had the balls to pierce their ears by hand with safety pins, not like some of the little wannabe punks right now.
Continuing to act like this and condoning acts like this is a sure fire way to turn this into a blood-bath at one point or another. We dont want that. We don't need martyrs. This needs to be a soft-revolution from the ground up in which the people get an education and understand what is happening to them and we win at the ballot box.
Anything more than that destroys this country. You got China and God knows who else that might be waiting in the wings to drop in and take advantage of the domestic unrest caused by an all out Civil War.
I drive a truck for a living, over the road, every day. I sacrifice more for this country by doing my part to keep this country's economy rolling than you could possibly imagine. In the last 2 1/2 years I've driven over 350,000 miles in every state and half the provinces in Canada too.
There are no Fema camps that I have seen.
When Border Patrol stops you they usually ask you one stupid question.
"US Citizen"?
"Yes, Sir"
On you are on your merry way.
They might ask you if you have anyone else with you. They might ask you what you are carrying.
But unless you look like a wet-back that cant speak English (one of the reasons why they question you with 1-3 little questions), they arent going to hassle you, infringe upon your rights, oppress you.
This is just some stupid little kid that thought it would be cool to make a point.
Just be glad I wasnt behind him stuck in line in my 80,000 lb Class 8 Semi being held up from making my deadlines because of this stupid immaturity. It was very rude, and inconsiderate for him to behave this way. It was disrespectful to the men and women who serve to protect this country's borders and the fellow motorists on the road.
I'm 40
and I do not drive a truck.
I don't call Mexicans Wetbacks, and I have a right to not answer anyone's questions. I do my part keeping this country rolling but our government is preventing that lately.
Your just too used to DOT weigh stations and being governed by a logbook and have become immune to intrusion and feel its ok. You pay extraordinary fuel taxes through IFTA and are forced to buy a 2000.00 license plate every year. You must submit to drug screens when ever they feel like testing you. Your medical records are public and must carry the certification around in your wallet or be fined. You are forced to buy a million dollar insurance policy and a 100,000. cargo coverage. Your truck must be inspected annually by a DOT certified inspector. You cannot use red diesel.
And you give information to border people as well....
Screwed up profession. You are the most regulated person I know.
For Freedom!
STUGOTS! To the high and felutent establishment!
Paultian Powerhouse!
To Sthomas
“You know, the only thing I can be grateful for about having so many young, immature people "part" of this movement .. is that it probably means you are under 21 and youthful. Thats good qualities to have in the event of a war. Hope you can fire a gun too. We might need people like you willing to fight for the cause when things get real serious. Once you get above 30 its pretty hard to stay up for 3 days straight in a war environment. So, yea .. you will probably have your "role".”
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"Freedom is for those who have the guts to defend it" guess we can put you in the gutless category, don't worry I will still defend your freedoms to make such idiotic post, when the time comes for that.
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"You think its "cool" to be a rebel? Do you think this is some sort of stupid fad against the "establishment". Grow the EFF up. Its much more important than that, and we have to fight it properly to win it and refrain from throwing immature little tizzies like this. Hell, back when I was about the age you all seem to show, at least the rebels of my time had the balls to pierce their ears by hand with safety pins, not like some of the little wannabe punks right now.
Continuing to act like this and condoning acts like this is a sure fire way to turn this into a blood-bath at one point or another. We dont want that. We don't need martyrs. This needs to be a soft-revolution from the ground up in which the people get an education and understand what is happening to them and we win at the ballot box."
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A "rebel", how can you rebelled when you are simply stating your rights under the 4th amendment and the constitution, the only way you can rebelled is when you actually let them search with out a court order as writing in the constitution.
I guess if you don't pierce your ears yourself you wont be consider a "rebel", fact is I didn't know I had to have my ears pierce to be a "rebel", do I have to have black or green hair also or maybe blue, yes blue is quite rebellious.
If standing up for my rights guarantied by the constitution makes me out to be a "rebel" then sign me up for the self piercing class and blue hair, BTW I have 4 ear piercings 2 of which I did myself :).
We need a Soft revolution?, hell even Gandhi said, "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."-Gandhi, what reason would he say that if only knowing that to be free you some times have to fight for it in which ever form is best to attain it and some times "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."-Thomas Jefferson.
"Every generation needs a new revolution."-Thomas Jefferson
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"Anything more than that destroys this country. You got China and God knows who else that might be waiting in the wings to drop in and take advantage of the domestic unrest caused by an all out Civil War.
I drive a truck for a living, over the road, every day. I sacrifice more for this country by doing my part to keep this country's economy rolling than you could possibly imagine. In the last 2 1/2 years I've driven over 350,000 miles in every state and half the provinces in Canada too."
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Its not like its the first time we would have foreign powers wanting to see what they can take, while we correct our country, so excuse me if I'm not surprise with your statement.
I'm sorry to say this to you, but you drive a "TRUCK" because you get paid for it, be it money, gratitude or self gratitude, your driving a "TRUCK" because you have the damn freedoms to do what makes you happy! to do what feeds your family or your self, stop acting like your doing me a favor, no more favor than me writing you back.
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"There are no Fema camps that I have seen.
When Border Patrol stops you they usually ask you one stupid question.
"US Citizen"?
"Yes, Sir"
On you are on your merry way.
They might ask you if you have anyone else with you. They might ask you what you are carrying.
But unless you look like a wet-back that cant speak English (one of the reasons why they question you with 1-3 little questions), they arent going to hassle you, infringe upon your rights, oppress you.
This is just some stupid little kid that thought it would be cool to make a point.
Just be glad I wasnt behind him stuck in line in my 80,000 lb Class 8 Semi being held up from making my deadlines because of this stupid immaturity. It was very rude, and inconsiderate for him to behave this way. It was disrespectful to the men and women who serve to protect this country's borders and the fellow motorists on the road."
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I'm guessing FEMA wont actually name its camps like this, "hey are you a person who follows the constitution? if so than this is this the the "camp" for you.".
The "border" patrol are for the border not inside my state! but the damn border, and when they ask if your are a "U.S citizen" your response should be "I'm a Citizen of state name of this United States" the only people who are "U.S citizen" are the territorial "states" belonging to the federal government.
I no more have to answer that I have aunt sally in the 3rd row seat or that I went to "chuck e. cheese" because I don't have to response to their personal question which I feel is none of their business.
BTW, you don't have to speak English or have brown skin to make you a Citizen or citizen of the U.S, your comments are quite stupid and ridiculous, oh yeah your not protecting the border when your 25 to 100 miles from it, wouldn't you think.
Thank you..
...for your common sense.
how can i say this...
you, sir, are an IDIOT!
...you drive a truck? congratulations, i am so proud of you...
you should be able to watch the whole "show" from your cab...
you just sit back and let REAL heroes stand up for your rights while you get those chickens to walmart...
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
A rebel? You my friend are
A rebel? You my friend are at the wrong site. That stupid little kid was a firefighter. Stupid huh? So when a things get bad and you in your $100k+ semi swings through a town needing a little extra income. So a bad border patrol sets you up and throws some coke in your stuff. No video, no nothing, you going to get off? Not a chance. So before things get to far gone step up to the plate and quit being such a bitch!
You don't get it. There Should be no Suspicionless Checkpoints.
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Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Shouldbe couldbe wouldbe
Perhaps there should be NO checkpoints, and I'm all for writing letters to my reps about that, but I agree with Sthomas, who is making a good point.
It's a checkpoint not a legal-aide made YouTube event set showing you how to beat a traffic cop when you have your car full of pot.
The guy in the YouTube looks like he watched the YouTube a hundred times and decided to check it out on a checkpoint.
Now the ACLU and their interveiw of the man who was pulled over that had tile in his truck... there is a good video about the checkpoints and a group working to STOP the checkpoints.
You want border security and when you get border security, yiou decide you don't like that kind... what kind? Drones?
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Having fun, Granger
Having fun, Granger
They Have No Right to Search Him Without Cause
Liberties are taken one bit at a time, while people like you complain about those fighting not to lose them.
Grow a pair of balls, The Granger.
All this guy did was defend our rights like everyone should.
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Ron Paul's Convention Speech
No, YOU don't get it. I
No, YOU don't get it. I agree, there "should not" be any suspicion-less checkpoints. But thats not the point. It is not our job to judge the law in reference to the Constitution. That's the job of the Supreme Court, and if they uphold the stupid law, then its a legal law. If they have not heard the case, then it is still a legal law until the case is heard by the court.
The only way we can turn this ship around is by educating the public. They have been duped into thinking that this was a left-right issue or a republican-democrat issue, all the while increasing the power and scope of the government, but no one has been actively trying to move the government back towards less government, they've only been successful in slowing it down.
Freedom is not "being able to do whatever you want". Freedom is not Anarchy. Likewise, Freedom is not being able to live wherever you want and being able to take any job you are qualified for. Its much more than that.
Real Freedom is self-rule, but it is understanding what Individual Liberty and Individual Rights are not just for yourself, but also respecting those rights of other people and conducting yourself in a manner by your own actions, not law, so that you dont infringe on the liberties of other people.
This asshole had no consideration what so ever for the probably hundreds of other vehicles, cars and trucks that were behind him. No, it was ALL ABOUT HIM and his stupid little statement. He's damn lucky they didnt arrest him and jail him until he could show proof of citizenship.
We need critical mass in order to affect popular opinion and subsequently elections. Being a minority isnt going to cut it. But let me clue you in on something. A lot more people are a lot more libertarian than you think. I run across people EVERY DAY and discuss political philosophy, not parties, with them. But these people are good, honest, law abiding people with ethics as well. Stunts like this turn those people off, and it turns them into Republicans. And unless you got a whole slew of strict constitutionalists, socially liberal republicans, we dont want that, because it ends up being where we are now .. left vs right with a slow climb towards tyranny.
So COOL IT.
I can't even respond to such illogical logic.
I don't have the time, and the DP probably doesn't have the space on it's servers to type enough words to convey how backwards your thinking is on this matter.
So, you in the new cyber-terrorist program, is it your job to post on sites about how we should all be good little members of the party?
"What was taken from the boomers, it ain't there, what was taken from the X'ers it ain't there, what is being taken from their great, great, great squared grandchildren it ain't there. Some generation just has to have the guts to quit passing it on." Me
*May the only ones to touch your junk, be the ones you want to touch your junk.*
ODELL...
you are right...
...also, why can't this mushroom understand that, after the standoff, the border patrol finally said, "OK, you are free to go"...they said that because he WAS free to go the whole time...the intimidation of Americans is unjust and illegal and the patriot who was stopped proved it again...
...unfortunately, this guy says we should STILL roll over and take this up the wazoo to appease tptb...his ignorance would be laughable if the "procedures" were not so critical to our well being and our liberties...
O Captain, My Captain, rise up and hear the bells!
its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!