They are coming for our chickens...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zDgIld_eM0
Between NAIS and HR669, I don't see room for me to have my chickens. I have been encouraging people inside city limits to challenge their ordinance by agreeing to keep only hens and to call them "PETS." Seems they are always one step ahead... I am not kidding, my line is in the chicken poop.
Chickens molt, chicken ranchers r3volt!
OK, a related note not worthy of its own thread, but to demonstrate why I am so upset by this crap.
Last year, friends (nice Jewish people) gave us a few laying hens and a rooster. We also got a few day old chicks. One of the old hens has now quit laying, and one of those day old chicks has gone broody. She has 9 eggs I am letting her brood over. I got another dozen day old chicks that are almost laying hen age.
Now, I am getting run out of my house with eggs, so why do I need all those hens? It is my idea of "charity." I also have a pile of scrap lumber in my yard, and a standing, open invitation to come build a coop for free. If the day comes that the sleeple who refused to listen show up at my door hungry, I will give them an egg sandwich, then a hammer and nails and point them at the pile. They will leave with a coop and a pair of hens, and enough seed to plant a garden. (If they show up at my door demanding things, I have lead I will give those people. I am not a fool.)
So, while I try to prepare to care for my neighbors, my government is doing - what exactly ARE they trying to do, anyway?
Ha. Sleeple! Did you coin
Ha. Sleeple! Did you coin that term?
About chickens. We have lots of raccoons who come around every spring and get into the bird feeders. You can hear clanging and banging every night as they try, and often succeed, to get into the feeders. Same with our bluebird houses. As much protection around these bird houses as we have, the raccoons still manage every now and then to get to the eggs or even the new hatchlings. I'm wondering if chickens would be safe here.
One cold snowy March, a small cat turned up at our home. He looked pretty sick and his ears were frostbit. I went to the store and got him some cat food and my husband made a house for him. I made some pillows for it and changed them every day because I read some where that straw was the best bedding. When we saw that he was improving, we took him to the vet and got him his shots. I named him Tucker. One night I looked outside at his house which was right up against the house on the deck. A big old raccoon had his head stuck into the small opening of the house. I scared him off.
A few weeks went by and Tucker was moving around more. He liked my 2 dogs and they liked him. One morning he wasn't there. I drove around calling for him, :-), but we never saw him again. I wonder if the raccon got him. Maybe raccoons don't kill cats. I don't know. I'm such a city girl! Ha!
Food safety
Suggested reading, "The Black Book of Communism".
Especially the parts about farm/food policy.
Food is a weapon used to control the population, goverment
engineered famine. I couldn't make this up. Read the historical
record for yourself.
The proposed food safety legislation will make you a felon to
backyard garden/raise livestock for your own consumption.
The Feds will seize your property and fine you $1 million dollars.
Is your state a willing accomplice or asserting their tenth
amendment sovereignty?
You set a good example...
...that you make charity a part of your preparation. :)
Well I'm in
and I am starting with 5. I know I will get more. My neighbor got some as well (only chicks though). I only need to feed 3 people...but ya know...my garden will love the compost! Should have some eggs by the 4th of July. Around here people are buying up all the chickens and it is hard to find anything but baby chicks. I was lucky to get some half growns. They came in to the feed store (10 total) and were sold before they hit the floor!
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I sold my ten pullets today
Got my asking price with no attempt to haggle. I kept two, two of my older hens seem to have stopped laying.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Stew pot time for the old hens.
Great time to learn the art of slaughtering, de-feathering, and cleaning the birds.
The old birds' meat is tough, so stewing is a good option.
If you haven't already done this part of chicken ownership, it is something that you must learn. In a survival situation, you can't let old hens go to waste. You have to eat them after they are finished producing.
The clue to de-feathering is to dip the dead bird into a vat of boiling water for a few seconds, and that loosens up the quills, so that they come out real easy, almost by hand-wiping them off. Then you only have to deal with the little pin-feathers that are left after that.
It generally is best to set up a production line, and do a bunch of them at once, so that the set-up time and effort isn't just for one bird.
Freeze the ones that aren't going to go on the table right away, after they are cleaned and processed.
If you're just raising meat chickens, then buy meat breeds, and process them at about 10 weeks old.
Mine are Cuckoo Maran's
Once we can tell them apart besides one with a snagle foot they are getting some names. Our 4yr old son came up with the best one so far (#1 is his) - 1. Deisel Butt 2. Henny Penny 3. Chicken Nugget 4. Clawfoot 5. Mother Clucker - I also like Bird Brain and Chicken Little, I guess we will need to get more soon so we can use those names as well.
These birds are all for eggs at this point despite the Chicken Nugget name. That one refers to the poop for our compost pile. I might be catching the bird disease over here!
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Liberation!
Thank you. I needed to see this post go around. This is how we liberate ourselves, one cluckin' chicken at a time.
The two pullets I kept (Plymouth Barred Rocks) are integrating nicely. One is very white compared to all the others, and she has imprinted on me. Her name is "Pet." She actually comes running to me to let me pet her. All of them run up for food, but Pet wants to be petted.
"Princess" named herself with her attitude. She is the only hen from the 4 chicks I bought last year, 2 got killed (my own damn dog, I think) and 1 is a rooster. Princess actually bullied all 5 of my other hens into letting her be first at food, etc.
The rooster I raised has become a rude little cock. He screws everyone at every chance, even the other rooster (a banty.) He is so overbearing and obnoxious that we named him "Rothschild."
Look into "lasagna gardening." If you start now in an area you want for next spring, you can do a no-till garden prep by laying newspaper or cardboard, then the cleanings from the coop, then throw your lawn clippings / weeds / etc on top, let it winter over: Come spring, you have no-till garden with no-fuss compost.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
A recipe for mayonnaise to use your excess eggs:
At this link http://www.freedomsphoenix.com:80/Feature-Article.htm?Info=0...
You can keep your chickens!
You just have to secure the land patent for your property. These laws you are talking about will continue to pass. But when you understand that the USA is one of the few countries with allodial title, and property tax/building codes and other things like this are contractual, you can render them irrelevant. I found out about protecting my property at teamlaw.
wait till you find out theres only like 2 counties that give
alloidial title. You have to "discover" new land to allpy for a land patent and own it outright almost anywhere.
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You don't have to
apply for a land patent. It was already issued, and not by the county. It was issued by the BLM. You just have to get a copy, along with the chain of title transfer from the initial patent to the present.
Maybe you mean to say that there are only like 2 county clerks that will file your land patent, or maybe you mean that there are 2 counties that actually issue land patents? Land patents are not issued by counties, they are all issued by the President of the United States of America, and every property has had one issued. I don't want to debate this too much because its supposed to be about chickens, and you can read more about it at teamlaw.
I've read all about it and looked into it: been disappointed
Why should I have to "buy" land in the first place? I don't like the whole idea that the queen or a government owns land and has to give me permission to live on it in exchange for my time in commercial activity (money). My question remains, "do the fleas own the dog?"
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I just love your thread. It brings tears to my eyes!
Chickens and gardens. I grew up with those warm, safe, and simple feelings of prosperity. My grandmother was from Yugoslavia and she taught me self reliance from a young age.
When I read your thread, it just brought back all those warm and secure memories of how our food is really raised......by our own efforts!!!
My grandmother is alive and well and living in my own heart. This is the first year I will have a garden out back and in the next year or two, chickens.
The father of some Czech nationals
I know almost starved to death after WW1. The only thing that kept him and his dog alive were his rabbits. To this day, so I understand, many Czechs keep rabbits or know how to keep them, just in case.
My (WI) representive Speaks on Agriculture
Press Release
Media Contact:
Jake Rubin 202.225.5665
KAGEN IS FIGHTING TO PROTECT
OUR FOOD AND FARM FAMILIES
April 23, 2009
Washington, DC -- Congressman Steve Kagen, M.D. is looking out for your health and the safety of our food. Today, the House Agriculture Committee’s Subcommittee on Livestock, Dairy, and Poultry held a hearing to review federal food safety systems at the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA).
“American consumers must be assured that our food is safe and nutritional; that when it is offered for sale it will help to sustain our good health - not harm it,” said Dr. Kagen. It is up to the United States Department of Agriculture and the Food and Drug Administration to handle this responsibility.”
The subcommittee heard from food safety inspectors and meat, pork and poultry producers about the state of food inspection in the United States.
The USDA is responsible for food safety measures for the nation’s meat supply while the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is responsible for nearly every other type of food, including peanuts. Many in the agriculture community, including U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack, believe that to achieve the necessary food inspection standards a single food safety agency must be created.
“At the same time, we must act in a fiscally responsible manner and insure that those who are importing food into our country accept the responsibility and cost of fully inspecting their products to our standards. We cannot spend our hard-earned tax dollars on helping foreign importers. If they want to sell their products here, they must follow our rules,” said the Congressman.
Kagen, who is the only Wisconsin Representative on the House Agriculture Committee, fought for food safety provisions in the Farm Bill including changes to existing law to allow schools to include locally grown fresh fruits and vegetables for lunches; The New Markets for Interstate Meat program which allows small meat producers to be able to ship their product across the state lines provided they have met state levels of inspection; and a certification process for organic food.
Tomorrow, Friday, April 24 at 9:00 AM, Congressman Kagen will hold a listening session to hear from local farmers at D&G Restaurant in Greenleaf, WI. Kagen will be joined by Sue Beitlich, President of the Wisconsin Farmers' Union. This event is open to the public.
This report shoot a couple of holes into the Government telling us what we can or cannot grow. That's if you can believe this Low Life!
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Anyone thinking about getting chickens...
I just had to kill one of my girls and it was kinda hard. They can quickly get sick and it ain't pretty.
Little lesson for the day: Get a really sharp hatchet--one stroke would be best.
It's ok to shed a tear when you lose something you love.
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aww..that's sad.
but at least she isn't suffering now.
Don't feel bad,
You gave her a good life, compare it with the ones in factories, which is horrible. I saw your video, and she must have been a happy chicken. I have 6 young ones I raised from day old chickens to replace some I lost to a coyote (coyote is dead, from a mini14, and my 14 year old son). They are happy too, run free, and chase bugs. The new little ones run to me and follow me when I go outside. Some day we may kill some of them which is unpleasant, but they are treated well when alive, and seem so very happy, free.
Peace!
You shared your life with her and honored her little spirit, you were merciful and kind to her at death. What more can one creature do for another?
Hugs!
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
I am so sorry to hear that.
I hope it wasn't too hard on you..........she was ill?
Colchester, New London County, Connecticut
She was very sick and had decided to die.
I just helped her on her way. It's not the running around body that gets you, it's the dead head. You realize there's no turning back; dead is forever.
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aw man - bummer.
here I am wanting to get a dog, and chickens...
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I still miss every one of my pets
I had to help leave the world. It's a very somber thing. Very very sorry you had to help her out in that way. We're probably getting chickens this spring, I hope that is something we won't have to deal with for a long time..
Colchester, New London County, Connecticut
Stupid law
You cant make a hen with two hens. There has to be a rooster.
The idiots making those laws are being politically
correct about being gay! What dopes.
Wonderful charity ideas,
paul4won.
I'll watch the video when I'm not sleepy.
great post!! Since you may have a good grasp of this issue....
Perhaps you can make up a simple flyer.. (one page or two) That can be faxed to all petstores... we can get all of their employees to get on it ..and call /fax /email their reps.. (perhaps a website to find their rep...)
Once each petstore finds out whats up.. they will get all of their people to contact the reps...
Post it here (or a link to it..if you need a place to put the flyer's..let me know..I can host it on a website) If each daily pauler faxes it to all their local petstores in their area we can make waves all over the nation...to stop this insane legislation
good idea
Trouble is, they keep the crap coming so fast and furious... but I will try to put something together.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
any update on this...
if there was a simple flyer we could drop off at the local pet stores... people could download it...
would make waves ...a bunch of small ones all over the USA...