Advice on paying debt or buying silver

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Hello friends, i have been having quite the internal debate about my finances and i would love to hear what you have to say. My situation is that I have about 10k in credit card debt, which costs me about 100 dollars a month in interest. Now over the next six months i can pay it all off OR I can but 10k worth of Silver bullion and then slowly pay it off after that. I appreciate any advice you can give.

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As a general rule it makes sense to get out of debt first. As other have pointed out the first rule in treating an illness is to do no harm. It's inherently more difficult to improve your financial situation when you're paying interest to someone else. Or as someone else said, you can't dig your way out of a hole.

I worked on a large project at one of the major banks in their credit card division. While I was there this division was the most profitable "single product" business in the United States. I'm a system architect of analytical applications and I worked on their credit card balance consolidation profitability model. I'm intimately familiar with how this scam works.

Credit card companies offer their lowest interest rates as a "teaser" to new customers or existing customers who transfer money onto their card from another bank. They want to get people to consolidate other credit card balances onto one card. In industry lingo this is called a "balcon" or "balance consolidation." A few years back nearly every person in this country was blanketed with "balcon" offers in the mail. I used to get about 2 or 3 offers in the mail PER DAY! The deal is the banks offers a low interest for a fixed period followed by a return to their "regular rates." For example, 0% for 6 months on newly transferred balances. This is where you'll get the lowest interest rates. Now for the caveats. Unless you actually read the terms of service (TOS) of each offer, which can be 10+ pages of legal fine print, it's best to assume the following: If you accept a balcon offer, DO NOT USE THE CARD to make new purchases. The interest rate charged on new purchases can be much much higher. In the case of the bank I was working at they charged prime+13.5% when prime was 4%. That's a 17.5% annual interest rate. Ouch! Doesn't sound so bad if you only charge a little bit and you pay off more than you charge per month... However, it just doesn't work like that. Your payment is applied to the 0% loan balance FIRST. Only after the entire balance consolidation loan is paid off does any excess payment get applied to the principle being charged 17.5%. In the meantime your balance from new purchases is growing exponentially. This is the viscous truth in many cases (again, read the fine print or assume the worst, your choice).

You're currently paying about 10% which is pretty good. If you want to make the system work for you then consolidate your balance on a low interest teaser rate. When the balcon period ends then transfer it to another bank onto another teaser rate while not making any new charges on the card. People who do this are called "gamers" and they drive the credit card companies nuts. They try to predict this behavior and avoid it by targeting the offers to certain people using data mining techniques (banks share detailed personal information and there's nothing you can do about it) but the predictive models don't work very well.

Bottom line: if you don't want to pay off the $10k all at once and you want your money to work for you in the meantime, then play the balcon game to your advantage.

Debt has to go first.

Just remember, if things go bad quickly you can use that extra available credit to buy gold and silver quickly.

Ethically, morally, and practically, the debt should go first.

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Pay the card off first. Then buy the gold/silver.

That's what I did.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

Slay the Debt Dragon ASAP

Liberate yourself first, they enjoy a little freedom.

"..shall not be infringed."

"..shall not be infringed."

PAY OFF THE DEBT! Don't

PAY OFF THE DEBT!

Don't listen to the ones who tell you to buy the silver first! It could still be years before inflation brings silver up to where it will counter the interest you owe on your debt.

I will also assume that being credit card debt that it is a variable interest rate. So PAY IT OFF FIRST!

It is impossible to dig out of a hole, fill it up and get out.

Pay off your debt. Debt has interest attached, interest = slavery and someone else is making money from your labor. After you pay off the debt, then with the 100 a month you save with interest payments you can buy silver if that is your game.
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The debt is false the terms

The debt is false the terms were not disclosed nullifying the contract. The credit card company lent you money created on the spot from nothing enslaving you with false debt. Buy the silver and look up how to eliminate credit card debt.

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Do you have some sort of

Do you have some sort of reference for exactly how to do this?

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Once you are rid of the debt, you will then be in a position of

building true wealth and assets. Always rid yourself of debt first. Silver can always be bought up later when you are in the black.

You will be shocked at how easy it will be to buy silver AFTER

you pay off your debt. You don't need to buy 10k of silver at a time anyway. A local coin shop can sell you as little as a single dime if you want it. (Though I'd recommend larger purchases as affordable to get the most bang for your buck - but no matter what - DON'T let that stop you from buying it at all just because you can't get it at contract prices - almost no one does.)

The rule of financial stability is PAY DEBT OFF and SAVE AFTER.

It is infinitely easier to save after you have no debt.

The peace of mind, and ability to sleep easier at night is priceless by the way.

And this from someone who's taken this path myself - PAY OFF THE DEBT FIRST.

(in my humble experience)

There is no way to be certain of the right thing to do

In the first place, there is no way to be certain of the right thing to do in these unusual circumstances. Plus, additional info would be helpful--is your job secure--can you get the 10k to pay off the debt at a lower interest rate than the 12% that you are currently paying--do you have a necessary stockpile of supplies built up???

But, off the top of my head, if you did invest in mentals and paid your debt off 6 months later (one year from now), you would have only paid 6 months of additional interest To me, the 6 months of additional interest seems a reasonable price to pay for the comfortable feeling you would get from your metals investment.

Good luck!

OK, first of all my job is

OK, first of all my job is very stable as i am in the navy, this situation is that i am going on a 6month deployment which means i will be not spending any money. My monthly expenditures(rent, insurance, storage) is about $600 and my monthly net is about 4k with a 2k bonus in October. I will be in the navy for 3 more years, and my ccard's interest rate is 11%.

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also i have alot of seeds

also i have alot of seeds stored, 2k rounds of 5.7x28mm rounds a FN5-7 USG and i own my home which is a sailboat.

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I just want to say that

I just want to say that living in a sailboat is awesome.

yeah, its kind of like

yeah, its kind of like camping all the time. And its good for a zombie-apocalypse lol.

fortune favors the bold

Pay it off

Credit card debt? Pay it off. Home mortgage at low interest? Not sure.

Pay off your debt

Do the right thing, not necessarily the easy thing. When you learn to do that, the money will flow. You do not want that monkey on your back. Don't be a debt slave.

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"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

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The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

You are not alone

So many of my friends are asking me the same thing since I distribute silver.

First of all, the most important single thing is I would ask myself is this. "What service can I provide or product can I produce that others will need in the coming economic conditions?"

Ultimately, wealth will move towards production if it isn't stolen. If you need some extra cash to get producing, don't spend all your cash on silver.

So, do whatever it takes to get producing, and then pay off your debt. After that, start saving gold and silver.

Just my humble opinion

welllll, doing the math, if

welllll, doing the math, if silver goes up like 2-3 dollars then i will easily make up for the months worth of interest loss AND, in this environment the debt is kind of "depreciating" But on the other hand i do understand the virtues of getting it off my back. The issue is not that its compounding me down, I have plenty of extra money each month and i can switch to debt-destruction mode very quickly. Right now tho i am just paying a 100 dollars a month and the balance just stays the same.

PS: I already have 10oz of gold saved

fortune favors the bold

Then just pay it off.

You have just shy of 10k in the piggy bank already. Then you can apply the 100/mo to silver or other supplies if you feel the need.

Since you have the gold, it's not like the question is savings vs. no debt - you already have some savings so pay off the debt and next month you can start building your savings instead of treading water with the card. The psych boost you will get from the combo of paying off that card AND now putting that money in your silver piggy bank every month will be greater than any perceived 'satiation' you got from whatever you most likely don't remember charging on the card in the first place.