Swine/ Avian/ Human flu outbreak. Open Thread
Submitted by Fedor on Fri, 04/24/2009 - 09:44Are you seeing this madness unfold? They are saying this flu has all THREE! This was their nightmare scenario. CDC says to late to stop spread. This could trigger all sorts of events. Border runs, etc.
GREAT SITE TO TRACK FLU and prepare, pass it around
http://www.newfluwiki2.com/
***Check out the Rumsfeld connection. Article from 2005 http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/newsmakers/fortune_rums...
Virus links
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/us/24flu.html?ref=us
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/health/WHO_Worries_Mexico_Flu_Dea...
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From the archives: dducks
In the 60's
On April 24th, 2009 dducks says:
the US had more of a free market healthcare system. We had actual health insurance. Now it is a healthcare program which is set up to benefit big pharma peddling their drugs and health providers acting as middlemen sucking off all the profits. This is all done legally through help of the Governments interventionist managed care programs.
We used to take better care of ourselves and only used insurance for major medical issues. Now we are all fat and take a bunch of expensive drugs to counteract our obesity.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90878#comment-994684
And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
we've had a school closure in vernon, bc.
11 cases in the province according to newspaper. they could be behind in their count by now.
supposed email from an insider
What’s The Truth About The Flu?
The following email was written by Dr. Marcus Gitterle MD, Christus Santa Rosa Health Care in New Braunfels, and leaked on the Internet. Hospital spokespersons have authenticated the email, but refuse further comment.
The email was sent to family members, and it speaks for itself.
I tend to respect inside information, especially info given to people the source would have no reason to screw over.
go here to read the email:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10734
that's creepy.
hawkiye's video from the 'holy crap' thread ... that doctor/researcher was saying the same thing.
he said you had to read between the lines because they had just changed the definitions of their phases. convenient timing.
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Not sure about how bad it's going to get, we will see in a few weeks. But my mom runs a urgent care in south central California and she said the same thing as far as the incubation period, people still being infectious even after thier symptoms are gone and even before they are showing symptoms.
I'm not panicing but I'm preparing.
Here is a very good article
Here is a very good article by Dr. Mercola. Read and then pass it along. While you're on his website you should check out some of his other articles. He has never been wrong on anything I have read or tried of his.
"Not one to dabble too deep in conspiracy theories, I don't have to strain very hard to find actual facts to support the notion that this may not be a natural mutation, and that those who stand to gain have the wherewithal to pull off such a stunt".
"But let me tell you, getting vaccinated now would not only offer no protection and potentially cause great harm, it would most likely be loaded with toxic mercury which is used as a preservative in most flu vaccines".
http://articles.mercola.c...
REALITY check
THIS is supposed to be an unbefore confronted FLU....How did they create 50,000,000 vaccines already to go ???
you-no
they didn't.
they're going to pawn off old vaccines ... the new swine flu will interact with that vaccine ... so when this fall rolls around ... the new and improved swine flu will be killer.
see this film ... the long version .... not the version aired on tv.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/91352
Flu Facts
Incubation period is 7 days.
The infected person can pass the virus before feeling ill.
The infected person can pass the virus after feeling well for several days.
Man made or natural we will not see how this will turn out for several weeks.
We Develop Swine Flu, When we Eat Like a Pig
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And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”
Come on!
I know exactly what I'm talking about. These non-logical anti government rants are amusing and dangerous. Bio weapons are real. This virus is real. Will it become a pandemic? Who knows. If it does mutate into a stronger strain, it will be people like you that will be the burden. This is about indivdual responsbility. If we as a people can't get our shit together and stop the spread of a virus because we are too Stupid to make simple plans, we deserve the NWO.
Have they gone as far as this yet in USA?
Australian Government enacts health detention powers over swine flu
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/28/2555364.htm
What is the next step in all this fear mongering stuff. It seems every government is in cahoots with the NWO ... ggrrrr.
Hi Hannah
They haven't enacted anything, not that I've seen, but they do have the power by law (Model State Emergency Health Powers Act) to force people to cooperate with whatever draconian measures they decide upon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSEHPA
I watched a report last night on the evening BSC,
(BullSh*tChannel) that at the Mexican airport, they are using heat sensor devices to detect the temerature of individuals and anybody with a reading at or above 101.4 is pulled aside and given more tests. To me, the MSN is preparing US for the same thing: if you look sick, you will be detained and from there, who knows. This "pandemic" will usher in martial law.
It could be as simple as this.
Create a specific strain that is different than any other strain, so it can be easily identified.
Release it in one or more specific areas.
Trace the vectors of the virus transmission, and the speed and scope of the transmission.
Use the data for the purposes of predicting results of a future release, which may or may not be a more deadly strain.
They might be just using the population as guinea pigs, to see which ones get sick, and where, after they drop the bug into the cage.
or release multiple strains,
via vaccines, train explosions (still can't get over that one), or other method. it is like lighting a fuse, it is just a matter of time until the right combo gets hit, it mutates, and the pandemic starts.
I can only conclude they want it to spread
By being very lax about it. OR they are just doing a test-drive of the whole pandemic scenario.
1918 started just like this
PLEASE read the history of the 1918 flu. We need to make some simple plans to help this not get out of control. The whole anti-government spin is not helpful. I agree NO vaccines, however, please prepare your family. Limiting exposure will help us ALL and that takes a little planning. This virus is real and I don't think it's natural. It will mutate. That is a biological fact. If it gets stronger, we will have a very real crisis. If you really believe this is a false flag and do nothing, that may exactly what they want.
Reported in Michigan-Possible Case
Pretty frequent coverage on TV
www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/04/one_possib...
Container carrying swine flu virus explodes on Swiss train
Container carrying swine flu virus explodes on Swiss train
28 April 2009
Lausanne (Switzerland), April 28 (DPA) A container for transporting swine flu virus samples exploded on a Swiss train, authorities said Tuesday, but stressed that there was no danger to the public.
The container, which was filled with dry ice and carried samples of the H1N1 swine flu virus and was destined for Switzerland's national influenza centre in Geneva, exploded Monday night on board a train.
A laboratory employee had picked up the samples in Zurich to transport them by train to Geneva, but the package exploded near Fribourg and Lausanne, after melting dry ice, which had been wrongly placed, caused a build-up of pressure.
Two people suffered slight injuries, police confirmed, but authorities stressed there was no danger for the public as the virus was not the mutated strain which is suspected to have caused up to 149 deaths in Mexico.
The train was halted for several hours and the 61 passengers on board the affected carriage monitored until an infection could be completely ruled out, police said.
http://www.jansamachar.net/display.php3?num=36781&id=
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Vials of swine flu virus explode on train
Vials of innocuous swine flu virus exploded on an intercity train on Monday evening, prompting police to stop passengers before they arrived in Lausanne.
A laboratory technician from a Geneva hospital had been carrying the vials from a veterinary institute in Zurich as part of a Federal Health Office order to develop a diagnostic test for the illness that has killed as many as 150 people.
The technician had dozed off on a train travelling from St Gallen to Geneva. Near Fribourg the technician heard a muffled pop. Built-up gas from dry ice surrounding the vials had caused the package to explode.
The carriage in which the technician was riding held 61 passengers at the time. The Federal Railways Office did not learn of the incident until 40 minutes later after the train had already passed through Fribourg. Police then stopped the train near Lausanne, inspected passengers and wrote down their names as a precaution.
"This virus is not dangerous to humans," said Laurent Kaiser, head of the Geneva lab. "It is the same stock as the H1N1 virus but it has nothing in common with the strain spreading around the world."
The technician suffered light wounds, the only injury, but some passengers were angry that they had not been informed of the incident sooner.
"Why did they leave us enclosed in a contaminated car for an hour?" asked one passenger. "There was a pregnant woman who panicked. They only informed us sparingly. And why didn't they stop the train in Fribourg?"
Viruses and other infectious specimens are often transported by train or even post. Kaiser said this particular shipment had been packaged according to regulations.
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news_digest/Vials_of_swine_flu_v...
You must know
HOW a virus works before you post stuff like this. 1918 started mild than mutated. WE can stop the spread if people get off their ASS and prepare, limited exposure, etc. The government is doing the right thing, the media is doing what it always does. This virus is real and could be natural or man-made, either way, it will mutate. If it gets stronger, we will have a very serious pandemic. Lets make sure we don't encourage people to do no prep work. This is the kind of individual responsibility that is required in a free society.
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It is a fact that unsanitary living conditions are greatly contributing to the rapid spread of this outbreak in Mexico, check out this article from Frosty Wooldridge about how it affects citizens here in the U.S www.frostywooldridge.com
another outrage
www.alipac.us/article-4172-thread-1-0.html
The Obamination has yet to appoint a U.S. Surgeon General, a Secretary of the Dept of U.S. Health and Human Services, the Head of the U.S. Center for Disease Control and the Head of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration! But he has plenty of time to fly to Mexico to assure them that amnesty will be granted
its spreading pretty fast here
and I don't think it's natural.
Viral Approach
"They" realize that many of us are too well-equipped to consider initiating a full-blown attack. Sooo...they do this (think Katrina). Reporting to docs (some folks call anything "the 'flu"); scare stories from MSM (local station showed clips of people strolling around wearing surgical masks).
Stock up on grub; save water; and prepare for lock-down. The proles are going about business as usual, so it's likely you'll have no problem obtaining staples just in case.
they are asking everyone who shows flu-like symptoms
they are asking everyone who shows flu-like symptoms to ask their doctor to send in their swab samples where WHO/CDC can tell them whether or not it is PIG flu.
So samples are being sent in from every corner of the nation, where the man behined the curtain will tell you.
thanks mr. man.
They are also
getting the patient's DNA in those swabs.
Maybe they are recording it and storing it too, because they seem to want everybody's DNA for some reason.
4 unconfirmed cases in NC
I was reading about the 4 cases of unconfirmed cases here in NC but they refuse to give the city or any further info. Does anyone know what the percentage of these suspected or confirmed cases as legal or illegal residents here in the USA?
two in Asheville, NC
asheville swine flu
Gee, they refuse to give the city? It's unconfirmed?
That's because it's bullshit. There is no outbreak.
The CDC even admits there's only 1 CASE in the US that has been hospitalized with a flu.
The Mexican government still refuses to give any details of the original "outbreak" OR any names of victims.
See Ron Paul's video on the front page about the Swine Flu Hoax and his thoughts on it.