Linking Kucinich to Paul
Submitted by Ian Bowles on Sun, 11/25/2007 - 20:36http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/11/if_kucinich_wins_n...
If Kucinich wins nomination, Ron Paul could be his veep
Posted by Sabrina Eaton and Stephen Koff November 25, 2007 19:03PM
Categories: Kucinich
Acworth, New Hampshire -- Call it the liberal-libertarian ticket, where left meets right and Democrat Dennis Kucinich picks Republican Ron Paul to be his vice president.
Kucinich, the Cleveland congressman running in a longshot bid to become president, suggested it himself today.
"I'm thinking about Ron Paul" as a running mate, Kucinich told a crowd of about 70 supporters at a house party here, one of numerous stops throughout New Hampshire over the Thanksgiving weekend. A Kucinich-Paul administration could bring people together "to balance the energies in this country," Kucinich said.
It would create a stunning, if dizzying, blend of beliefs, wedding two politicians who hold different views on abortion rights, the role of government in providing health care, and the use of government in fostering -- or hampering -- the public's greater good. Those are among the reasons it would never work, said a spokesman for Paul, a congressman and doctor from Texas.
"Dr. Paul and Rep. Kucinich are friends and there is a lot of mutual respect," Paul communications director Jesse Benton said in an e-mail when asked whether a running-mate spot on the Kucinich ticket would be attractive to Paul. "They have worked, and will continue to work, together on the ending the war and protecting civil liberties.
"However, Ron wants to substantially cut the size and scope of the federal government. There are too many differences on issues such as taxes and spending to think a joint ticket would be possible."
Kucinich and Paul are gadflies to their parties' establishments. Kucinich challenges Democrats to stop cozying up to corporate interests, while Paul challenges Republicans to shed the trappings of big government.
Both frequently cite the Constitution as providing the authority for their agendas. Paul never votes for legislation unless the measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution, his campaign says. Kucinich keeps a pocket-size copy of the Constitution handy, brandishing it to invoke authority for such proposals as the impeachment of Vice President Cheney, one of Kucinich's signature issues.
Speculation of a Kucinich-Paul ticket has surfaced on the Internet, where it also has been shot down. But Kucinich's wife, Elizabeth, did not dismiss it when asked about it after a recent Democratic candidates' debate in Las Vegas. Speaking to the website RawVegasTV, she called Paul "a great truth-teller," adding that Paul has "voted 100 percent right on the war."
Today, her husband said, "Think of how you could unite the country, having a Democrat and a Republican on the ticket."
I don't like it. To me this a veiled hit job. Kucinich as most of you know is the socialist congressman from Ohio who sees UFOs.
I dont know what the obsession is to link these two but the only thing they have in common is the anti-Iraq War stance. This is to me an underhanded way of damaging Dr. pauls credibility.
Heres another these are funny
http://blog.case.edu/james.chang/2007/07/14/dennis_kucinich_...
I looked up his name and this article came up
http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=3607
Well at least Kucinich carries a copy of the consitution
Perhaps RP could get him to READ it.
Perish the thought
RP would be a better VP to Kucinich, than the other way. In fact I will not vote for Kucinich if RP wins and makes him his VP.
If RP wins
and makes Kucinich his VP, your vote would be moot.
Backwards
Dennis has it backwards. He should be VP, Ron Paul as President can delegate ENDING the drug war to Dennis Kucinich. [Like how Ronald Reagan delegated the PROSECUTION of the drug war to George Bush 43. And how Bill Clinton delegated the "reinventing" of government to Al Gore].
Ron Paul has untapped resources in the NORML community. NORML = National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws. This is because he has not issued a detailed program, in this campaign, for how he will end the drug war, and, in the process, STOP VIOLENT CRIME. Ron Paul has repeatedly called for an end to the drug war, DEA, ONDCP etc., but has failed to mention them prominently in his campaign so far. So it's hard for me to convince Michigan NORML, hugely successful in their petition drive to put medical cannabis on the ballot, to give up on their Democratic candidates, Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich, when Ron Paul has no "DrugWar" issue pull-down on the website.
Recently a Student slim jim has appeared that has one line about hemp & med MJ, thanks to the staff for puttingt out more slim jims, but these NORML folks can't see voting Republican, even Ron Paul, without more of a commitment than that. And I'm talkin' the early state of Michigan.
American medium-sized cities are getting hit with a sharp increase in drug-trade homicides. All America needs the solution, so obvious, explained to them.
Ron Paul is the better communicator, with his unwavering stage presence, but Dennis Kucinich has built the bridges RP needs.
Oh, the New York Times will not approve, but this is the answer to violent crime.
Issue?
I don't think Ron Paul plans to make it a BIG issue. He is the executive branch meaning the Federal government will no longer be prosecuting people for drug offenses. The States are still able to prosecute if they want to, but ultimately this will allow states to have liberal drug laws without risking their citizens being arrested by the Feds. Will Ron Paul work with States in elimination of their drug laws, I doubt it, but maybe.
Federal Omnipotence IS the issue
Ron Paul's ending U.S. involvement is ...well, UNTHINKABLE in the terms of the so-called liberal media view of things. And it's everything about the Drug War. California made med MJ legal 11 years ago, but the feds continue to make it problematic.
12, now it will be 13 states have chosen to end the drug war, at least regarding cannabis. If the DEA would just get out, since they are not constitutionally allowed to exist, the states could address their crime problems along with health problems. Ron Paul has made it clear he regards prosecuting sick people as a crime on the part of the federal government.
What I'm saying is, why not SAY SO and get the dudes and dudettes on the Dem side to support the winning team? At some point, we have to let the illiberal, irrelevant MSM just go hang.
Will Ron Paul work with States in elimination of their drug laws
I think he will have MORE than enough to do at the federal level.
Keep A 50 Foot Pole Between Paul and Kucinich
That's a good idea to keep distance from Kucinich. No, it's a great idea. Kucinich is a liberal through and through. He's for taking away your right to own, keep, and bear arms. He's for stealing your's and my money and giving it to people who could but don't work.
Kucinich does not have a clue what Ron Paul is about.
We do not need a Kucinich type anywhere. About all you can say about him is that he's against the war in Iraq.
I think this is a sneaky way of smearing Ron Paul and trying to link him with Kucinich and the FAR left wing of the Democratic party.
However, for those who think that Kucinich is good, but look at what Ron Paul stands for, and want to change their support: I'm ALL FOR IT.
Let's keep this a RON PAUL discussion site! :)
Go Ron Paul!!!!
In Liberty's Cause
I realize how different they are
It seems to me, still, that Paul and Kucinich both address the root causes of problems and have reliable personal integrity. In the same way that many liberals would say that while they disagree with Ron's position sometimes, they trust him, I trust Dennis and that counts for a lot. Dennis has a lot of support on the left and if that support would help get Ron elected, supposing that DK would stick to issues they agree on (civil liberties, foreign policy), I would like to see these two work together. If nothing else, it would be a sign that both Dems and Repubs have rejected the trash candidates that don't have much difference between them.
"To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
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"To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
And pull in the Politically Homeless
who will not vote, because everything that matters is not even subject to political debate.
Today I canvassed for Ron Paul, and the last house had a man who absolutely would not vote. For many, ALL THE ISSUES OF ANY IMPORTANCE regarding issues of the value of the dollar, war and peace, personal liberty, and the drug war are not even valid subjects of discussion for the MSM and the major political parties.
Let's change that.
I agree...
...Kucinich may be honest and trustworthy, but that's all he's got going for him in my opinion. He is a socialist! Ron Paul stands for the exact opposite!
There's somethin' happenin' here...
Power To The People?
Opps!!!! Dennis what did you just do?
Dennis, may have just knocked himself out of the race for Presidenet , once Kucinich supporters get introduced to the Ron Paul Revolution and get a good look at Dr Paul's veiws on the issues, Dennis won't have any supporters left. Nice job Dennis.
Kucinich...
I think Kucinich wants to join us
that would give a huge boost for RP to win NH NV Michigan...
they are perfect together to unify country
Paul/Kucinich is my dream team against warmonger Hillary
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“The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence.” Dr. Ron Paul
hmmm
maybe that was his intention?
with that wife of his, he's still a winner in my book
That may work for
That may work for Kucinich.... but doubt it would work for Paul as in on Paul/Kucinich ticket. I think a Paul/Williams ticket is more likely. As much as i hate to use the term long shot, Kucinich would qualify as he isn't raising the funds necessary to make an actual bid... but I admire the debate he brings to the Democrats even tho i don't agree with many of his fiscal stances.
Paul/Kucinich
6 weeks ago during an interview on PBS Ron Paul when asked about Kucinich as running mate was also very welcoming...Ron even suggested that social spending differences could be ironed out by military spending cuts...also Ron said once that if he was not running for president he would vote for Kucinich.
...love Paul/Kucinich Unity Ticket
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“The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence.” Dr. Ron Paul
Wrong
He didn't, RP I think said something to the effect of Kucinich's domestic policies are unrealistic however the current social programs can be funded with the money saved on our foreign policy we may be able to save programs like Social Security and properly fund the VA.
I would LOVE to see a Ron Paul/Goldwater Jr. ticket, it would lock him in as the one true conservative Republican. In fact if he announces it NOW he may do a lot better in the Primaries.
No he didn't.
No he didn't.
PBS interview
watch that interview on youtube
Ron is asked about the possibility of Kucinich as running mate and he gives a positive answer talking about their friendship over the years fighting together against the war and patriot act and how social spending can be unaffected because of military spending cuts...
listen
Kucinich as VP would not unravel the conservative vote
its the president that has real power
and Kucinich's support is vastly underestimated by the MSM
Ron needs those votes
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“The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence.” Dr. Ron Paul
No?
Please say it ain't so!!! Walter E. Williams for VP
He said he would vote for Chuck Hagel
not for Dennis
yes...
yes he did say that he would vote first for Hagel but after saying that he said Dennis Kucinich the video is on youtube...
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“The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence.” Dr. Ron Paul
Like I said before
Kucinich has good intentions but has no clue when it come to economics, thus he's a pro-nanny stater. Though noble in his resolve, he's wrong.
Ron Paul should keep a 50ft pole away from him and Kucinich if he is to have a chance to win the Republican nomination. This is only going to get those "are you going to run as a 3rd party" questions that Ron Paul doesn't deserve.
The two couldn't be more different, and Kucinich I feel is trying to hitch on the Ron Paul wagon trying to gain momentum.
so stupid
This is so stupid. An anti-capitalist welfare statist with a laissez-faire capitalist as a running mate. Come on leftists, stop pretending you love Ron Paul.
come on...
Stop pretending that Republicans/Libertarians/Anti-Statists are the only people who love the ideas of the Constitution and want their country back. Do you really want a president elected who only has half of the country behind him? Isn't the message bigger than that?
but,
But if you strictly followed the Constitution, there would be no government involvement in the economy and no welfare state. The Constitution protects laissez-faire capitalism. Kucinich hates capitalism and hates the idea of business making a profit. He wants government to control the means of production. Maybe he doesn't realize that the Constitution is not on his side on economic matters.
Kucinich, who I disagree
Kucinich, who I disagree with on a fundamental level, is probably the second most honest person running for president. I would actually vote for Kucinich before I voted for Huck, Judy, Mitt, Hillary, Fred, or anyone else, other than Paul. All these other candidates are machine-made cr@p.
Honesty isn't the most important thing
If someone is an honest socialist or honest fascist, why is that good?