Question for the DP men - Women chime in if you want....
Allow me to set the scene.... My husband and I have been married (yesterday) 20 yrs. And he tends to avoid things like relegion, politcs etc. so needless to say when I got RP hooked he was skeptical. He finally got on board when he went to the Restore the Republic Rally in Minnesota and realized RP was saying what needed to be said even after he wasn't running and had no chance of winning. He is so suspicious! Anyway...
I have been very isolated in my enlightenment and when I try to talk to him about all of it I tend to get that glazed over look or a change of subject or just blatent not interested comment. He will watch Glenn Beck, which may explain why I tend to defend GB even when I know the truth about him!
I have to down right demand that we go to sams to stock up and he will go to help, but seems so distracted and enslaven while we are shopping that I just want to scream PARTICIPATE in this so I have an idea of what you want.
It became very clear to me yesterday in his card to me.... His exact words (not what they card said)....
You are truely my best friend. We have had good years and bad years. I think of us getting old together and the shape of the country and it scares me! I wouldn't want to face any of these changes or challenges with anyone but you. I love you, my best friend!!!
What spoke to me in all of this, is that he is scared, which explains to me why he has been so disconnected. He is scared! And he is thankful that I pay attention, but still doesn;t want to face it.
Are you DP men scared, are you seeing your buddies scared! How do you (if you were a woman) deal with a man who is so worried about what he will not be able to do to defend his family. I don't think us women think about how this attacks a mans ego. We know they can't do anything, but a man thinks there is no end to what he will do to protect his family.
We (women) also think more about fighting it in Washington with emails, letters and petitions and men seem to think when they show up at my door I'll do what I have to.
Am I crazy with my thought process or am I on track. What can I do to help my husband find his POLITICAL voice and not his physical existance.
All thoughts appreciated.
Here's what I'm scared of,
Here's what I'm scared of, that good people will shut down!!! I'm not scared of the bankers, the bastards in Washington or the NWO; I'm scared good Americans will just turn the other cheek and bury their head further in the sand.
It has been done before you know. Americans aren't the brave freedom fighters the history books claim we were. Benjamen Franklin had to deal with the same cast of characters that we all have to deal with on a daily basis. He had to practically trick the Quakers into fighting for their property and their liberty. It's similar to what we have to do to get people to wake up!
I'm a man and yes I'm scared, but, to be frank, I'm scared of people like your husband....
I am one of those men
I am blessed with a beautiful wife who supports me
she has put up with me freaking out for 6 years now
not 2 say she is perfect she has made her mistakes too
but our 4 year old is the center of our lives and the reason for all we do
it has not been easy for her either, seeing me predict one nightmare after another, knowing there is really no way this can end well.....
we have made our peace with god...
First of all,
I would like to say I am deeply touched by the depth of emotion your thread has triggered in me.
What a beautiful sentiment of true love......friends, ultimately. Good for both of you!
I guess my husband and I are opposite in those ways you describe. I am the one who would not hesitate to use a gun for self protection AND I believe in the political process as a way of re-grounding our country as a whole back to Constitutional sovereignty!
My husband is neither political, nor is he a defender of guns (though he would not keep another from having them!) He is simply too busy just trying to make ends meet for our family and kids and he gets anxious about how strongly I feel about the state of our country and all the things I have read and become aware of. In a lot of ways he certainly agrees and we come to similar conclusions, but.....he differs.
He just believes in 'supporting' our two children and our way of life. I love and respect him deeply and see how much pride he takes in his caring for us.
But in so many ways, I am the 'mother wolf' here. I know if push ever came to shove, look out, because I would be the one to 'physically' defend our family. I know it just isn't in his nature to 'kill', while I believe it is my 'moral' duty to protect and defend what is our sacred lives!
I have always said, if we are going to die, I would rather die fighting for our very lives! Most likely, if he was more about that, I wouldn't feel so 'strong' about it. But its just the way things are between us.
Even though this past year I recount the many times my husband and two teens rolled their eyes at me when I needed to go to a 'political meeting', and how many times did they rudely cut me off when I talked so passionately about this 'movement' at breakfast or dinner. I felt lonely in my own family for so long.
Now that I have been 'elected' Deputy Chair, I was brought to tears when both my husband and my children told me how proud they were of me for doing what I am doing. They have finally come around.
What stabs at my heart even more is that I know this is just the beginning of something that will test even the 'strongest' of all of us. I believe no longer do any of us have the 'luxury' of sitting on that fence any more. I am the 'realist' in our family.
I believe what we are coming into now as people and especially, leaders, will require the moral, ethical, mental, and emotional strength of what we imagine is a 'true human being'.
Thank you very much for your post!
My two cents...
Offer him to go with you to a rally, or function or whatever but, don't push.
Inwardly, he may be struggling with the questions...do I really need to worry about all that I hear on survival, corrupt government, rouge cops, etc.? Is my family really in danger?. Should I worry? I think that all of this is common in men but, we men ARE different than the ladies in that our Y added to our X makes us so. He's thinking. Some take longer than others but, he'll "step up" if he has to. Nothing to worry about.
Wkaing Up can manifest as stages of strong emotion!
The proccess "could" look something like this:
1) Denial
2) Fear
3) Acceptance
4) Anger
5) Motivation
I recall going through a proccess like I have mentioned, minus the denial.
It will vary from person to person. I think that fear is natural (part of the survival mechanism) and can be good, but focusing on the fear instead of solutions only makes it worse. Preparation can ease fear, the unknown can amplify it.
Fear contains intense energy that can be focused into positive acton.
Fear can also be paralyzing. Talk about it, do what you can, read the bible, pray, hear some good preaching and trust in the Lord.
"Halleluijah Anyway"
"Halleluijah Anyway"
Practice Un-Conditional Love - Grow Organic Food - Hiking
Don't force him to think about topics that scare him -- As men we have a hard time acknowledging our insecurities even in intimate relationships.
Find activities where he feels like a man
Cut back on tofu / soy products and sugar (makes men effeminate)
Get him outside
Un-Conditional Love -- I meditated on what this actually means for 2 years and on the 3rd (after 15 years of marriage) decided I would start "actually" practicing it on my wife. After a year of this it totally transformed our relationship. It is more mental and emotional than it is outward -- It begins outwardly with kindness (in all circumstances), correct language (what they need to hear not what I want to give), and truly listening (giving good feedback) -- you must balance this by standing strong on certain issues (dichotomy is needed for them to appreciate the un-conditional love). Again you have to meditate on it.
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typical differences.
he may be totally down with what you're doing, and not be scared, but just in his own head. he's probably comfortable having a lax mind.
my mother in law, who did not care about anything politically until recently was motivated while i sat down in her living room with her, while she was typing on her laptop. i put freedom to fascism in the dvd player and she glanced over and started watching. she watched the whole thing and now she's into it. you can't force the message down anyone's throat, but you can use times like that conveniently.
My belief is
love wins the day and counts when all is said and done.
I am no longer fearful and am confident that wisdom is within all of us.
Best wishes to you
I was surfing the internet
and stumbled on a forum where someone said he saw on a Ron Paul forum where some guy was cleaning out his stockpile of food when Ron Paul scared the bejeezers out of him back in 1996.
Check the expiration dates (smile)
I did see in a Costco advertisement where they are selling buckets full of some kind of emergency food.
I wonder how my poodle tastes ? JJA
Tell him to buck up.
If he can't listen to you in times of peace.. what do you think will happen when the shit hits the fan..
I'm testing people who claim to be my friends right now.. that way I know who is on the level or not..
Sounds like he's a go with the flow type of push over.. Do you wear the pants?
I make no apology.. I'm tired of it in my own life because people around me are having a hard time facing reality.
Let me assure you if he cares he will get on the ball and take things seriously.. and I don't mean go all commando, I'm saying face up to the reality and roll with it. Denial is a good way to not be prepared.
tell him to practice letting go of what he fears to lose.. and enjoy what he has before him..
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"tell him to practice
"tell him to practice letting go of what he fears to lose.. and enjoy what he has before him"
.......words to live by :)
"letting go" -- "change" -- "adaptation" - "entrepreneurialism" - "innovation"
All help to manifest the free-market we are fighting for -- even if we disagree on how to get there.
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Political Power Grows from the Barrel of a Gun
Just because he was a monster doesn't mean Mao wasn't right.
You didn't mention whether or not Mr letushope is a hunter or fisher. If he is already, encourage him and resolve to learn from him. If he is not, INSIST that he go shooting regularly. Handling tools enhances self confidence and assures proficiency. The better he gets at shooting the more empowered he will feel, and the more he will believe that he WILL protect his family no matter what.
Let me repeat. Buy a gun (rifle, pistol, shotgun, fifty caliber auto) if you don't have one and INSIST that you both learn to handle it. Get all Lysistrata on him if you have to, it is that important!
Congratulations on the double decade and best of luck with the approaching apocalypse.
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Congratulations on the double decade and best of luck with the approaching apocalypse.
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the idea? just kidding around ;-)
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Give him a bigger vision of security
Buy him a gold coin and tell him he's part of the solution. It sounds like he's a fortunate guy to begin with!
Another good idea
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Wow, this is very common.
I woke up first and then I had to gently feed my husband information then he gradually started looking into things he is on board with what is happening now. I wanted to get involved but he said it is out of control. I have tried to make some preparations but I know we will be in deep doo doo. He has become very depressed watching his pension disappear and what is coming. I think he decided to just ignore it and let me try to get some things together. I am tired of being afraid, whatever happens will happen. I am tired of being played, with their damn MIND games. I don't trust anybody and that is sad. I have guilt for our years of apathy and how we will suffer for it. Now, I enjoy just watching the trees and flowers sprout. Enjoy my little dogs, friends and family. I refuse to let them steal what goodness and joy for life that I have left. I continue to try and inform people and I think some are taking what I said seriously. I won't give up hope and I won't give in to defeat. Good luck
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I am not scared more like
I am not scared more like angry and frustrated that these criminals are forcing me to wonder about our future and do the things I must do etc..
My wife is on board but I am definitely the driving force, and she tends to not want to delve into it too much as it stresses her out.
A few times I have had to put my foot down and insist we deal with and plan certain things. I said if you're stressed now how stressed do you thing you'll be when the SHTF if we're not prepared?
Some people feel hopless so they figure why bother. Others agree its good to prepare but don't really believe it will get as bad as it could.
The one thing that mitigates fear, frustration, and stress is action. Maybe you need to go a head and scream once and a while that you need help?
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let,I find that people
let,
I find that people handle bad news differently.. some like you and I will confront the problem with all out force.. some folks wether men or women know that something bad is coming but they kinda curl up in fetal position
and do not want to be worried about it.. I have prepared for this coming depression for a long time. My grandfather lived through the great depression and alsways told me another one would come. He told me to prepare.. he told me when I was prepared as well as I could be I would not fear what is coming and he is right. I have taken every step possible to protect my family and other family members like brothers and their families, mom and dad etc.. I was the only one who would listen to my Grandpa.. my mom and dad also listen but when I talk to my brohter he just looks at me with a blank stare and goes upon his way.. (then again) he knows I have pretty much taken care of him, but it would be nice to get a little help).. I know exactly where you are coming from.. My wife listens but she can not get her mind around some things.. so just do what you are doing.. You are doing great!
I have prepared best I can and continue to.. the rest is in Gods hands..
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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Interesting comment
about your grandpa's advice....
My grands and great-grands lived thru the 1st depression as well. My grandpa also used to tell us all the time that there would be another depression (though he said it would not likely happen in his lifetime) and that it would be much worse because the "young people" didn't know how to do for themselves.
Yep,
and the older I get the more I wish I had paid more attention to the stuff he was trying to teach us. He knew SO much about different types of trees and plants....could grow/build/fix anything.
He said it would happen....they always had TONS of food stockpiled in their house (I think anyone that went hungry for long periods of time would probably do that) and always gardened even tho they had plenty of money to buy whatever they wanted.
So much wisdom....and just a bunch of grandkids that didn't take advantage of learning from it.
Hindsight really is 20/20.
Anyone out there that has really old relatives that has lived thru really hard times needs to take/make time to really talk to the old-timers...They're a great source of information.
If your not just a bit terrified you really haven't been paying
attention to what's really going on. If your man isn't showing his fear or expressing his vulnerabilities he's been conditioned as most of us men have been to stay strong in the face of things we can't control. We are hunters by nature we hide in the bushes till we have to strike . It's our nature.
america is scared...
and that is a dangerous thing, because it is always exploited... last time people were sufficiently scared (2001?) it resulted in over a million innocents killed and many more are walking around with missing body parts (still going on 8 years later with no end in sight), and I'm sure the nwo folks could care less if the million dead are iraqis, afganis or american citizen/slaves (I bet they'd be happy for any opportunity to exterminate the lot of us in the freedom movement)...
Well I would be lying if I said no....
But not scared in the traditional sense of the word... I see it as " fear biting" like a beaten dog.. I feel like I am ready to snap at any second, and that is what scares me..
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"......
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"......
I am awake because of...
my strong woman.
God bless the Gals.
Because
of my Mormon friend. He has been telling me this was going to happen for 15 years, and I always shrugged my shoulders thinking, buddy, you are over the top! After I recovered from the shock last September of Lehman Bros, Goldman Sachs going down the tubes, I realized he was right. But it took McLiberal suspending his campaign, and then voting for the 1st bailout anyway! My friend appealed to me to consider 911 was an inside job, he appealed to my mechanical mind, and asked how can you explain how a 120 story sky scraper can collaspe perfectally verticle? The light bulb turned on, and everything fell into place. Then I found DP!
But, I am sometimes scared of all the stuff going down. I think mostly I feel that we American's have let oursleves and our forefathers down for being so trustful for so long! I feel like I personally blew it! I have voted so many times for the "lessor" of 2 eveils. Ahhhh, was I Sheeple!
My wife on the other hand isn't really buying into this whole scenario. She says she is trusting my insticts and my "Husband" qualities. After all, the worst that can happen is we are eating canned and MRE's for a year! And, we will be prepared for a power outage or a freakin riot down the street! Even though we live in small town America.
My solice is that I know I will go to heaven no matter what happens. I want to thank everybody for being accepting of my posts. I still struggle with my emotions, and some of my posts are very Bone Headed. Thanks to all of you DP'ers.
There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan
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I'm not scared. I think
I'm not scared. I think that everyone has to come to terms with reality on their own schedule and have found that I can't actually change anyone. What I CAN do is to sow small seeds that get people thinking and seeking answers on their own. Once they do this, even a little bit, they are all of a sudden coming to me with questions etc AND are receptive to listen to the hard truth. Hang in there, it seems like you are making progress, and above all don't be scared...... the truth will win, eventually.
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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.
Well, maybe not scared but....
....very concerned and not stupid about it either.
I've read all of Alexander Solzhenitsyn's books which have had a big impact upon my perception of governments and what they inevitably do. Perhaps he'd like to read "Warning to the West"? The Gulag Archipelago is probably the best book written in the 20th century. Also, "An Incident at Krechetovka Station" is very timely.
And, lastly, the novel, "Triple Ought" by Wesley, Rawles is fun to read and very informative.
Doing something by preparing for difficulties is better than wishing the problem would go away. An emergency situation can happen as a result of a storm....so perhaps you can get your husband more interested in emergency preparedness than political issues.
I'm of the opinion that emailing those bozos in Washington is largely a waste of time.....but it does give you a feeling at least you did something.
Happy Anniversary, letushope and hubby ! !
And may you have many, many more !