So What are YOU Going to Do? Updated!!
Update: I don't know how many of you listen to Steve Quayle...I don't normally because I consider myself more spiritual than religious but this was just released on his site.
FEMA Trailers Heading Toward Main Cities
April 30, 2009
Glenn
TRUCK DRIVERS ARE REPORTING THAT FEMA TRAILERS ARE HEADING FROM THE MAIN DEPOT TOWARD MAIN CITIES. THIS COMES FROM CB REPORTS AND IS CREDIBLE. ALSO, I HAVE A FRIEND THAT USED TO WORK WITH ME IN PITTSBURGH'S LARGEST HOSPITAL HAS REPORTED THAT THE EMERGENCY ROOMS ARE GEARING UP FOR A DANGEROUS OUTBREAK. THIS SWINE FLU THING IS NOT SOME HARMLESS THING. I THINK IT MAY BE A PRECURSOR TO MARTIAL LAW. I WILL ADVISE OF FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS. ONCE AGAIN, THANKS FOR PRAYING FOR ME LAST NIGHT. YOU WILL ALWAYS BE MY FRIEND---GLENN
http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html
If and when they try to force vaccinate all of us in six months...what will you do?
I am not concerned about the flu. I am concerned about the government's response to the flu and being forced to do something that I know is against what is in the best interest for my family.
Being "laid up", I can really only sit on the internet and surf and the information I am seeing is disturbing. They are already discussing calling in NATO troops over the summer (according to Alex Jones and Steve Quayle 4/29 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDozn5h3I8c&feature=channel_page), mass vaccination in the near future, jail time (or worse) if you do not accept inoculation...
So what do we do? Do we take the shots and whatever may be in them which could be much worse than the flu itself? Do we risk fines, imprisonment, or possibly being hauled off somewhere and separated from your family?
Do you think they will bother with people in rural areas that are spread out or just those in highly populated areas?
I'm just throwing ideas out there because I have some thoughts but am still mulling over the best thing to do. Time is short. <
Could just be
truck full of Tamiflu our local news said they got 800,000 doses yesterday. I am waiting before I make an assessment. So far there is no real proof of a pandemic.
What could they be transporting?
Tamiflu??? Or is is the Baxter vaccine with the "accidental" bird flu in it? This whole thing is really bizarre. Feels like a twilight zone episode.
"Law and Order" on NBC, April 21, 2009 (I think that's the date)
Made me so mad, and emphatically confirmed (again) the propaganda from MSM. The theme? A little girl dies of the measles. She was too young to vaccinate. She was exposed at a birthday party of another child who WAS old enough to vaccinate. (The birthday boy then got the measles). That mother had chosen not to vaccinate, though.
Long story short ... the parent who chose not to vaccinate was put on trial for the murder of the little girl. She wasn't convicted though ... but enough strong and accusatory language WAS used, though, to leave that mother convicted in viewer's minds.
Hmmmm ... interesting timing.
So how did the boy get the measles....?
Probably from being around a recently vaxed child!
Resist. If they try and
Resist. If they try and force me I will be vaccinating them first with certain metallic compounds. ;-)
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Let's apply some logic here...
let's see, there's ~330 million people in the US. What evidence can anyone provide from anything that has happened in the past, that our Government has it's crap together enough to:
a) have enough vaccines for that many people
b) have enough syringes to vaccinate that many people
c) coordinate something of this magnatude
d) pay for that many syringes and shots (oops my bad - forgot about the printing presses)
But seriously, when have these morons ever been that organized? Like Katrina for example?
Remember Occham's razor: (paraphrasing) the simplest answer tends to be the correct answer.
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Good Points RobT
Let me think out aloud....
The government would have to vaccinate over 300 million people in the U.S. and then either seal their borders very tightly (impossible) or get the Canadian and Mexican governments on board as well (NAU?) That's vaccinations for nearly half a billion people. That'd cost a lot. Would the pharma companies be willing to take the newly printed fiat notes?
After vaccinating all of North America, they'd have to shut off the whole continent to foreign visitors. End of travel industry (bye bye economy). What about North American citizens currently in foreign countries? They'll be stuck in no mans land.
I don't know. Unless someone can convinve me otherwise, I just can't see any kind of forced vaccination scheme happening any time soon. Long before that happens, I can see lots of people voluntarily letting theirselves be vaccinated and then some kind of two-bit scheme (National I.D.?) where you would need proof of vaccination to get a job, enter government buildings, get married, enter a hospital....
End of thinking out aloud :-)
I almost think
this is all going according to plan. But then I tend toward the tin foil hat side. ROFL
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I am hoping that they don't bother with this rural person/
family.
I will resist, as far as I can go.
I just bought an AR-15.
If it comes to that up here in MT, I have connections to people who are in local militias.
I am banking on them not coming up here first. I perhaps have a false sense of security, the buffers of living in MT and on a Reservation for what those things are worth.
My survivalist instincts are going to be enacted so it seems.
I will not take the shot.
If they catch me alive, then they will either give it to me or I am in a FEMA camp or I'm dead. Those are my alternatives as I see it.
Thanks Mississippi for getting us to focus on these possibilities.
If there are such things as Internet trackers, the government already knows about us and where to go to find us after martial law is declared. We will have no more buffers once martial law comes through..
They will probably
just taser you until you give in.
I work for the Health Department
in the mid Atlantic area. I will be stood up immediately if swine flu hits my county which is a heavily populated area on the edge of a major metropalitan area. I have not heard of any plans for forced vaccinations. The assumption is that people will be clamoring for the vaccinations.
Not sure what I'd do.
I tend to be rather passive.
Quite honestly, if push came to shove, I'm not sure how far I'd go to avoid the vaccine.
I definitely don't want it. (understatement...)
Me too
I'd rather take the vaccine than a trip to Camp Fema.
Both sound equally as bad to me.
But this does make me think seriously about what would happen if I lost my job over not taking the vaccine.
I guess I'd let the job go, just not sure what plan b would be.
But would they be more forceful than that? Maybe just saying 'no' is not going to be an option.
No gun here, but if I did have one, I doubt if I'd have the guts to use it on someone.
Hopefully this whole thing will not go that far.
In the Massachusetts Martial Law bill
There is something about how people who are forced into isolation or quarantine will be paid. Hopefully that would apply for all states. The bill actually makes it sound as if we will all be granted due process and consoled me a bit when I read it.
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st02/st02028.htm
Here's the part about wages:
"When the commissioner or a local public health authority requires a resident wage earner to be isolated or quarantined, or requires isolation or quarantine of a child under fifteen years of age of whom the wage earner has custody and responsibility, or otherwise interferes with following of his or her employment for the protection of public health, he or she shall be deemed eligible to receive unemployment benefits pursuant to chapter 151A to the extent permitted by federal law."
Here is my understanding of the bill: there has to be a valid reason (as they define it) before the order is granted for a person to be told to have the vaccination. If that person refuses, they will be isolated or quarantined "in the least restrictive means necessary to prevent a serious danger to public health"
Thus: "An order for isolation or quarantine may include any individual who is unwilling or unable to undergo vaccination, precautionary prophylaxis, medical treatment, decontamination, medical examinations, tests, or specimen collection and whose refusal of one or more of these measures poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health."
So maybe, just maybe, you can just decline the vaccine, stay home and get paid. (?!) I know that sounds too good to be true, but I haven't found any wording in the bill to suggest otherwise (yet.)
I shouldn't have called it the "martial law bill"
I was referring the the bill that Alex Jones was saying grants Massachusetts the power to declare martial law in a pandemic.
This one:
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st02/st02028.htm
It's official name is: AN ACT RELATIVE TO PANDEMIC AND DISASTER PREPARATION AND RESPONSE IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
Sorry for the mix-up.
What the hell are you even
What the hell are you even doing here??? This is a freedom and libertarian board promoting the principles of liberty and freedom. Anyone advocating that martial law might not be so bad, and hey you might even get paid for it is either trolling or just plain stupid... Sigh! Go back to American Idol there is nothing here for you.
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I was petrified of this bill
And crying yesterday. When I read it, I was somewhat comforted that I won't be dead by the end of the year.
It's not my fault there is wording in the bill about people in isolation receiving unemployment benefits.
Ingrid2
Nothing good can come from Martial law, even if it does pay unemployment benefits.
Do some research on the Patriot Act, and the Presidential executive orders, as well as Civilian inmate labor camps.
BTW, you really don't know if you'll be dead by the end of the year. None of us do....Take it a day at a time.
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I've done all my research
You know NOTHING about me.
I never said anything good could come from martial law. You and Hawkiye have taken my words completely out of context and are wasting your time slamming me now.
Bribery
A friend of mine recommended thinking about that.
Stay below the radar. It is your life, not theirs.
If anybody ask, just tell them you already took care of it. Photoshop any necessary document; how would anyone know.
For some of us it will be easier to avoid than others. I don't use doctors, am retired, live out in the country, and avoid airports, so it will be easy for me stay out of the system. For others with children in schools, you will need to be more creative.
"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence." Thomas H. Huxley
I have to use
a doctor to get refills for my epilepsy meds but I can tell him I went to my internist (that I don't see anymore) and got the shot. I will not take it. I also live out in the country and hardly go anywhere. I would have to see alot of people dying from the flu and people who have had vaccines not getting sick before I would do it. Shoot as far as seeing my doctor for refills i get them through the mail so I would just get him to call it in because I don't want to waste his time if he has all those sick people to care for plus I don't want to be exposed for nothing. He has to call them in because it takes months to get off them without it causing terrible seizures even if you have never had one. All kids are grown also. I just worry about my grandbaby that's coming in June. They may need to let me care for him instead of the girl that is supposed to who will be keeping a few other kids. They just need to build a house on our land. That's why we bought this place. But the county made all these rules since we moved here and now we can't divide the way we planned ect. But I think things might get to the point where you just do it. There was a article in the local paper about land disturbance permits even for the size of your garden.Even how much of an area you can plow or get a $10,000 dollar fine. We are zoned agrucultural. What the? Sorry too late I already plowed. said something about pasture size and how much land you can clear. said they just wanted to let people know to prevent them from dealing with the fines. Well I don't have 10,000 and how far back do they go? We cleared 6 acres about 10 years ago. Built a barn 3 yrs ago and plowed the garden a month ago. Will they fine me for each? or do they even know what we have done. Maybe we will luck out. We live in one county but our address is from another county. it's kind of strange. The mail route crosses the county line. Even though I have worked for the census I don't think I've ever gotten a form. Although some of the folks whos homes haven't been here as long as mine have.
Electronic documentation already in place
In my state, there is already an electronic vaccination database that many doctors use; it documents all the vaccinations that those doctors report and is available for any doc using it to view.
Example: We moved and old doctor didn't use the database and new doc's nurse flipped out b/c we couldn't remember what we'd had or when and she couldn't find it on the state database... this happened at two different offices.
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Darn
I hate that.
IMO, anyone that doesn't get vaccinated is a fool
If they had a vaccine ready today, I would crawl over a mile of broken glass just for a whiff of it ...
Are you sure...
..you're in the right place..? Guess there's a lot of "fools" around here..
When the SAME
company that just got caught "accidentally" mixing avian flu with their regular flu vaccines getting awarded the contract to make the vaccine for this?
Nah. I'll pass. I'll stay home and take my vitamin C, apple cider vinegar, cat's claw, resveratrol, etc.
If you get vaccinated and turn out alright, let the rest of us know that it's not death in a syringe please. I have a friend at DHS that feels the same way. I just don't.
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hmm.
I think i detect sarcasm. at least I hope for your sake.
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I think he means it.
Some of us are in charge of our own lives, and some willingly submit to a higher authority. In this culture, doctors are right up there next to God and President for the passive majority. We have a Wizard of Oz society, don't you know.
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