Self Defense HB 228 now law in Montana: open carry, no retreat...
justifiable force, home defense, no landlord prohibition allowed, citizens arrest.
Montana lawmakers have it right with new statute on self-defense
April 30, 1:25 PM
Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer this week signed into law a new self-defense statute that will “steal the thunder” from gun prohibitionists who invariably whine that armed citizens might “take the law into their own hands.”
The new statute squarely puts the law in the hands of the citizens, by plainly stating they have no duty to retreat if attacked in a place where they have a right to be. The law also allows armed citizens to use force or threaten the use of force when he or she reasonably believes an attack is about to occur, or to stop an attack already in progress.
There is also a section on citizen’s arrest, and one that codifies the legality of open carry.
It is a gun prohibitionist’s nightmare, but for the armed Montana citizen – or anybody visiting the Big Sky Country – it may just be the best news they’ve had this year.
Any person who is not otherwise prohibited from doing so by federal or state law may openly carry a weapon and may communicate to another person the fact that the person has a weapon.
Gary Marbut, president of the Montana Shooting Sports Association (MSSA) sent an e-mail the other day that applauded several people, including NRA's Brian Judy, but criticized others. In particular, he leveled his remarks against “the few law enforcement administrators and prosecutors who are so afraid of armed citizens that they lied and claimed end-of-life-on-Earth in opposing HB 228.”
“You need to work locally to replace these people,” Marbut observed. “They just don’t have a Montana attitude.”
And what is the “Montana attitude?”
It has to do with not being robbed, raped, beaten, burglarized or murdered.
More:
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-4525-Seattle-Gun-Rights-E...





















Montana or Vermont?
That choice just got a lot tougher. How are taxes in Montana?
-jcr
"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel
There is NO state sales tax, state income taxes are too bad....
either.
This maybe the next newest country soon.
I wish:
I would love to move to Montana.. I just can't take the cold and couldn't afford that far of a move.
I am currently trying to find a place in North East TN. The laws there don't seem too awful compared to MD. The communist state.
Good going Montana!!
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I love my country
I am appalled by my government
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I love my country
I am appalled by my government
You don't have to.Western Montana is warmer than you think it..
is. It is a great place to have to protect, if need be.
One for the Frank Zappa freaks
From FZ's "Over-Nite Sensation" album (September of 1973)
Vocal: Frank Zappa with Kin Vassy ("Yippy-Ty-O")
Backing vocals: Tina Turner, Debbie & Lynn (The Ikettes)
MONTANA
I might be movin' to Montana soon
Just to raise me up a crop of
Dental Floss
Raisin' it up
Waxen it down
In a little white box
That I can sell uptown
By myself I wouldn't
Have no boss,
But I'd be raisin' my lonely
Dental Floss
Raisin' my lonely
Dental Floss
Well I just might grow me some bees
But I'd leave the sweet stuff
To somebody else . . . but then, on the other hand I would
Keep the wax
'N melt it down
Pluck some Floss
'N swish it aroun'
I'd have me a crop
An' it'd be on top (that's why I'm movin' to Montana)
Movin' to Montana soon
Gonna be a Dental Floss tycoon (yes I am)
Movin' to Montana soon
Gonna be a mennil-toss flykune
I'm pluckin' the ol'
Dennil Floss
That's growin' on the prairie
Pluckin' the floss!
I plucked all day an' all nite an' all
Afternoon . . .
I'm ridin' a small tiny hoss
(His name is MIGHTY LITTLE)
He's a good hoss
Even though
He's a bit dinky to strap a big saddle or
Blanket on anyway
He's a bit dinky to strap a big saddle or
Blanket on anyway
Any way
I'm pluckin' the ol'
Dennil Floss
Even if you think it is a little silly, folks
I don't care if you think it's silly, folks
I don't care if you think it's silly, folks
I'm gonna find me a horse
Just about this big,
An' ride him all along the border line
With a
Pair of heavy-duty
Zircon-encrusted tweezers in my hand
Every other wrangler would say
I was mighty grand
By myself I wouldn't
Have no boss,
But I'd be raisin' my lonely
Dental Floss
Raisin' my lonely
Dental Floss
Raisin' my lonely
Dental Floss
Well I might
Ride along the border
With my tweezers gleamin'
In the moon-lighty night
And then I'd
Get a cuppa cawfee
'N give my foot a push . . .
Just me 'n the pygmy pony
Over by the Dennil Floss Bush
'N then I might just
Jump back on
An' ride
Like a cowboy
Into the dawn to Montana
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Movin' to Montana soon
(Yippy-Ty-O-Ty-Ay)
Great Song, and Zappa was a really bright guy.
He presented as spaced-out, but that was only for show. He was quite intelligent.
Frank Zappa was one of us
Before Ron Paul mania there actually were occasionally individuals who stood up and publicly defended the constitution. Frank Zappa's congressional testimony against the imposition of a government rating system on the music industry is probably the biggest acid attack on opponents of the 1st amendment ever. A group called PMRC [Parents’ Music Resource Centre] lead by Al Gore's wife Tipper was whirling up hoopla in the press against Prince and Sheena Easton for sexually explicit lyrics and imploring the government to save the public from this artistic expression. FZ actually read the 1st amendment to the Congressional hearing panel "for the benefit of foreign journalists" haha. Here're a few snippets:
FZ: It is my understanding that, in law, First Amendment Issues are decided with a preference for the least restrictive alternative. In this context, the PMRC’s demands are the equivalent of treating dandruff by decapitation.
FZ: These are all different mediums, and the people who work in them have the right to conduct their business without trade-restraining legislation, whipped up like an instant pudding by The Wives of Big Brother.
FZ: The ladies” shame must be shared by the bosses at the major labels who, through the RIAA, chose to bargain away the rights of composers, performers, and retailers in order to pass H.R. 2911, The Blank Tape Tax: A private tax levied by an industry on consumers for the benefit of a select group within that industry.
It goes on and on. Frank really blasts the government.
Source:
http://downlode.org/Etext/zappa.html
scdecade:I had forgotten about this FZ testimony
Thanks for posting this great stuff.
He is even smarter than I thought.
dah dah dah dah dah
plastic people... oh baby how you're such a drag
dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah daaaahh
Watching FZ rip Tipper a new one in the rose garden was a great moment!
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I have been thinking about where to retire.
Montana is cold in the winter, but it sounds like they have freedom year-round.
Western Montana is also on the west side of the ......
Continental Divide. The winters are much better than you would think, but they can be long, like this one has been.
Yesterday I promised my daughter I would stay in Idaho
But you Montanans sure make good neighbors!
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Paul: You are close enough that you could scoot over the...
border quickly, if need be.
Just keep a car topped up with gas, guns, and ammo, and know the fastest way here.
If it wasn't SO friggin cold
I'd be living there. When we left the midwest (primarily, because of the unbearble heat in the summer and the astonishing cold of the winter), my wife was leaning toward MT, I was leaning toward NM or AZ. We "compromised" on CO.
Ron Paul - Hope for America
Ron Paul - Hope for America
I think you made a good
I think you made a good choice. CO is #2 overall in the freedom ranking at http://www.statepolicyindex.com/?page_id=143
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It’s really not ‘that’ bad (not too intolerable, that is).
I lived in western South Dakota for 11 years. Montana certainly has pretty landscape!
I’m a native Californian, but was pretty much raised in Russel Means’ neck of the woods. I despise Iowa (lived with the folks when they moved here). I want to move to Sioux Falls after I save up enough so-called cash.. But Montana’s looking better and better.
—Cliff in Sioux City, Iowa
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that's FABULOUS!
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That's great
Now leading in my list of places to move to. Just need to wait for this imaginary global warming to actually start happening and we're good.
Just another unemployed Michigander
But no seriously I love this country and the freedoms we used to have.
George Carlin
I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for
It's beautiful there, but so damned cold
Can't beat the California weather.
I remember one year I stayed with a friend in great falls and we literally froze our rear ends off in the middle of the summer.
However, if things get much worse in CA I might be willing to deal with a little cold for some freedom.
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I think the native Americans had it right
I think we were meant to migrate
But no seriously I love this country and the freedoms we used to have.
George Carlin
I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for
Maybe more people will be coming up to Big Sky Country....
This Bill really clears up some issues.
ABSOLUTELY...
LOVE IT!!!
first bump
first bump