Stubborn arrogance, rather than humility is our nation's undoing....
...as well as the paralyzing FORCE within this so-called "Patriot" movement.
It is WHOLLY unpatriotic to not believe in the God of the Bible.
Peppered throughout a great % of these threads is the outright DISMISSAL of the fundamentalist Christian viewpoint; which is that Divine intervention and providence was indeed PRESENT at our nation's founding!
That's how I read all these comments - "we" are your INFERIOR because I am a "bible thumper" - this SPLIT helps those we need to overthrow from government - and NOW...
...we Christians are considered "TROLLS"...
See what EVOLUTION THEORY has taught us?
We were DUMBER, and now we're getting smarter....WRONG!
Our fundamentalist Christian founding fathers who feared THE CREATOR were MUCH smarter and wise than we are today...most patriots lack this motive to bring about a LASTING Liberty.
The DENIAL of God's "existence", and the outright REFUSAL to heed to His Words & His laws upon mankind is the FAILURE of this movement!
In the name of "freedom" and "separation of church and state" no less, makes you intellectually DISHONEST, and essentially BLIND to the source of our nation's birth.
No man who denies the Creator, or blindly subscribes to an un-biblical authority under the name of Christendom, can render a sound reason or viable PLAN to achieve the restoration of our Constitutional liberties.
No God = No victory; that is how it could've played out between 1774 - 1781...the MAJORITY of this movement has been secularized, deceived, and brainwashed to promote this selfish viewpoint...and it has COST US our FREEDOM.
It'll get FAR WORSE in this land before you realize how your hatred and denial of God and need for Jesus Christ has directly resulted in the loss of our liberty and PROTECTED freedom to prosper.
You serve the Creator, or you serve yourSELF - there is NO victory in taking the MIDDLE GROUND.
Pick WHOSE side you are on!
The Declaration of I., big C, and BORs...
... were crafted by people that were, if not far from...
Deistic (Conviction in the existence of a God Creator, however indifferent, or grown distant, from the terrestrial affairs of man. If I was a god, I too might consider punishing the disgustingly immature behavior of bullying and fratricide... by ignoring for a spell, this brat of a child, Man).
Taking cues from the Bible (among mountains of other arguably inspired works), considering man's expulsion from Eden implied that humanity is sentenced to 'this life' to hash it out among ourselves, with no-one else to call upon to umpire our PETTY playground infighting. (take note, there could be few harsher punishments for all the sins of man, nor greater tough-love lessons)
Therefor, according to these founders among civilization's better attempts, We can and should express; Declarations separating from oppressors of any kind at any time, constituting and reconstituting attempts at governance's structures as needed, and enumerating short lists to EXAMPLE the basics unalienable rights inherent to every individual.
IF there is in fact a Source of such rights, that they come NOT from any other person, but only possible from a true god, as far as we know. One such gifted right from this theoretic Source... is that I get to challenge you to prove otherwise, or in fact... in this sticks and stones, flesh and bones world God gave/sentenced us to. Get it?
Example; I say your Bible is ruddy and adulterated. God himself would not be out of line suggesting you toss it out and try again. A right to state such, I consider a product of individually divine creativity and imagination, or, a gift that could only come from god. So there.
And as far as the founders of the American republic went... they were inspired by the CONCEPT of an intellectual and spiritual better, and thus took such inspiration to elevate themselves briefly to scribble on some parchment a few new nifty ideas. So if one wishing to assign any divine significance to the American experiment... get one's head around the basic dynamic of evolving spiritually, and do not insist so stubbornly with great arrogance to Know that liberty and freedom are dependent upon the "Jesus" of the 18th century, nor this century for that matter.
Would you really like to go toe to toe with these statements? We can argue till one of us is struck down by lightning. Just about the only proof I 'buy into' on this spiritually curious material plane.
Assuming you and I could reach a calm ground on that, the next conversation would be well prepared to tackle how to better scribble down some new nifty ideas for maturing our self-control (Evolve with new Inspiration).
You have got to be kidding ?
If I choose not to believe in an invisible man in the sky I'm part of the problem ? This is what you are saying ? too funny.
No room for freedom of religion in your America, it seems
I let no man define the Creator for me. That includes you, or the men who gathered at the Council of Nicea to rewrite your "unchangeable" Bible. Read what you want, worship what you want, but YOU put the wall between us, not me. I will put my life on the line for your right to be what I consider very judgemental and closed-minded. What will you risk for me? I know the answer to that, not a thing. So be it. One of us attempts to honor all life and the rights of the living to develop the relationship with the divine that the Creator guides them to. One of us is so arrogant that we feel our concept of the Creator is the only one allowed.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.