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Free mind control..
The military and all powers that be use the opiate of the masses for control. Armies need to be controlled and preoccupied during peacetime to keep them from disintegrating before they're needed in battle. Over the years the use of cigarettes, booze, women, sports and even religion have been "offerred" to soldiers for their use, for free.
The military had to be sued to keep religion from being forced on soldiers. Before that the head Chaplain of the military said they " “reserve the right to evangelize the unchurched,”
I experienced this when I was in the miltary. The AIr Force more specifically. If I wasn't in church on Sunday i was harassed and asked If I believed in God. I was supposed to be learning engineering but was forced to listen to stories called the "gospel" that completely contradicted reality and the science our studies were rooted in.
Why would they do that in a "free" country?
Let's let our chaplains lay and clear minefields with God's help.
The Lord loves the submunition.
Right...
This is ridiculous. Our soldiers are being sent there to kill people, not give them Bibles. It's like these guys think they're actually doing something for the afghan people by praying for them or giving them gifts of Bibles. Maybe if they gave them a copy of "Evolution of Species" or an issue of Playboy, I could see that, but a Bible, that is so out of line. Maybe instead of discussing their faith with an afghani they should stick to seducing their women. I mean come on...visiting sick people in a hospital...shouldn't they just get busy killing these people instead?
I wish these idiots would just blindly follow the orders of their government and prosecute this illegal war, instead of living out their faith. Don't they know their place? Somehow they act as if their orders and the constitution can be overruled by the commands of God. They just need to suck it up and conform like the rest of us.
Blowback.
That's all we're going to get from this.
Freakin' neo-cons.
"We come bearing rifles and Bibles."
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
Ahem!
You can't go by just the footage of the incident that Al Jezeera elected to show. The chaplain went on to inform the soldier that he could not distribute the bibles. This from Huffington Post:
"That specific case involved a soldier who brought in a donation of translated Bibles that were sent to his personal address by his home church. He showed them to the group and the chaplain explained that he cannot distribute them," said Major Jennifer Willis.
"The translated Bibles were never distributed as far as we know, because the soldier understood that if he distributed them he would be in violation of general order 1, and he would be subject to punishment."
UPDATE: A defense official tells the Huffington Post that the preacher did not mean that soldiers should hunt for Afghani souls, but was speaking in general terms. He also said that the Pashtun and Dari Bibles were confiscated so that they could not be distributed to the population.
Read entire story:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/04/soldiers-in-afghani...
New Hampshire and Ecuador
Spread the Truth!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8251447278663885234
"Hell is truth seen too late...duty neglected in its season."- Tryon Edwards
"Human beings with love and compassion are some of the most beautiful creatures in the universe... Those without are a plague on us all."
GOD BLESS MY CHRISTIAN
GOD BLESS MY CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS... I SUPPORT THIS 100%... at the time those idiots do not let you, its time to tell them send me home! I cannot believe some of you are against this.. THINK BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTHS!
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am more concerned about the return of my money than the return on my money. --Mark Twain
“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)
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It's just an "idea"....what's wrong...
..with that? It's their "faith". Let 'em do what they want.
this is clearly
a part of the christian belief. Christians are going to tell people about Christ. As a christian you are supposed to love Christ, if you love someone you usually talk about them to other people.
This seems like grounds to withhold tax payment to me
My religious beliefs a absolutely forbid my funding of evangelical activities.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
Onward Christian Soldiers?
*** OMG!!! This is NOT appropriate policy or behavior for our military! We are in a country that is Islamic in faith and need to respect others religious rights! I am sick of this 'American and Christian Exceptionalist' attitude!! It is this same attitude that allows the killing of millions of civilians...women and children included... in large horrific numbers to be acceptable , allows the torture apologists to sleep at night...because people of different faith or race are somehow expendable...and not even worthy for pause or headline? I am sick of this attitude.
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some comments...
It is not clear if the presence of the Bibles and exhortations for soldiers to be "witnesses" for Jesus continues, but they were filmed a year ago despite regulations by the U.S. military's Central Command that expressly forbid "proselytising of any religion, faith or practice".
"Yes, that is the same sentiments as expressed in our Consitution, as well. These guys are NOT "soldiers for Jesus" once they don the uniforms of our military, they are just plain soldiers, soldiers who happen to be chaplains. "
"One reason is that it is against regulations and liable to cause division among the ranks. Another very important reason is that the perception that U.S. forces were attempting to spread Christianity, over and against the local Islamic faith, will very likely end in the Muslims turning against our presence there in self-defense."
http://www.military.com/news/article/gis-told-to-bring-afgha...
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
It is Impossible to Separate Beliefs From Behaviors
You fail to realize that Christianity encompasses all of a believer's life. Just because a Christian puts on a military uniform does not prohibit him from expressing his beliefs. To insist that he should do otherwise is to impose another religious belief upon him (humanism). Sure, as military personnel of the U.S., those troops would probably be more effective in their ministry to the Afghans if they passed out Bibles when out of uniform. However, they have every right to profess their Christian beliefs while in uniform as they would out of uniform should the occasion arise, especially the chaplains. After all, they are American Christians, not Christian Americans.
Theonimist~please read
this full article...Please ,also realize that today we killed 100 Afghan civillians ...
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In one recorded sermon, Lt. Col. Gary Hensley, the chief of the U.S.
military chaplains in Afghanistan, is seen telling Soldiers that as followers of Jesus Christ, they all have a responsibility "to be witnesses for him".
"The special forces guys -- they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.
"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."
http://www.military.com/news/article/gis-told-to-bring-afgha...
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Read and Considered
Thanks for sharing that. I still see nothing wrong with military Christians overseas reaching out to Afghans with gospel truth and Bibles. Is that not better than killing them in the name of democracy?
Thank you, Theonomist..
for reading it...I feel respect for any soldiers personal religious beliefs and they are many in our soldiers and those of other countries!! Off duty... that is thier perrogative ...but this is not to be made an evangelical, Christian ministry, holy war, military US policy!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
Every Christian whose paycheck depends on it finds a way
I do not get proselytized at the County Clerk, or the post office, or the grocery store, and I am sure some of those employees are evangelicals. this is NOT OK. You take taxes from non-Christians to go try to convert people to Christianity? NO, NO, NO.
Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.
No! No! No!
This is NOT ok!!
I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
A Mission Without Mammon
No, that's not my point, and I don't think that is even the issue here. Those Christians in uniform understand they are not getting paid to spread their beliefs in Afghanistan. What you saw in the video was their devotion time off-duty to minister to the Afghans (except for the chaplain). There's nothing wrong with that. Being a member of the military does not excuse a Christian from sharing his beliefs wheresoever God may send him. If you were a Christian, you would understand that better. The U.S. government has no right to force Christians to act like secular humanists by refraining them from expressing their beliefs in public.
Armed Muslims patrolling the streets of the USA...
spewing the Quran--sounds angelic doesn't it? What the hell are we doing over there?
What? Where are you coming from?
I think we have much more to be afraid of from our so called "Christians" in Washington and your fearmongering of religious intolence and grouping all Muslims as extremists that therefore can be eradicated without conscience!!
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd
What is illegal about it?
The Koran says in several places that Mohammed only came to Confirm what Jesus said... So all good Muslims should become Christians.
Terrorism is extremist religious position.
This is how you fight Ideologies...
With Ideologies..
Whats illegal?
Watch the video it says it or read the constitution. Anyway the ideologies gets us in to this wars in the first place.
GIs Told to Bring Afghans to Jesus
The special forces guys -- they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.
"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business
http://www.military.com/news/article/gis-told-to-bring-afgha...
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"I truly wish that real life would no longer surpass the worst excesses of my nightmarish imaginings... Arthur Silber **
"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd