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Just what is "the message" of the liberty movement?

I wonder if I could get some feedback on this question. Let me see if I can get the wording just right so as to get exactly at what I'm looking for.....I'll split it into two separate questions to make it super clear:

1. Based on your own understanding, if you had to boil down "the message" of the "Ron Paul" or "Liberty" movement into just one well-worded sentence, what would that sentence be?

2. *IF* you think this message should be modified in some way in order to increase its chances of success, how, in your opinion, should that message read instead? (Still keeping it to only once sentence?)

Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution

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Message of

Message of Freedom:

"Individual sovereignty and our unalienable rights to life, liberty and property are supreme and inherent and the ONLY role of government is to protect them."

Ruben Romero

The message is this...

The message is this - Limited Government.

This message manifests itself in several ways based on these principles.

*The form of government we pursue is a constitutional republic in which our rights are protected by laws as popular vote will step on your rights given enough time (both George Bush and Barrack Obama are great examples).

*Individual sovereignty through private property rights as legally all attacks on our individual rights are attacks on our property. Taxes (confiscation of the time spent), sound money (confiscation of our capital), the war on drugs (confiscation of choice) are great examples of this principle.

*Preference of free markets as opposed to central planning as people know best how scarce resources are most effectively allocated. There is both a practical portion to this argument (housing bubble caused by the Fed) and a moral portion to this argument (middle class bailing out huge banks and not allowing medium sized banks a larger market portion).

*Individual responsibility and personal choice that recognizes above all that there is nothing that effectively replaces personal responsibility. Regulated safety features in your car will never protect you as much as safe driving does (a friend of mine purposefully hydro-planing in traffic because he had traction control to back him up). Regulated markets cause much higher chance of irregularity then free markets that are forced to adhere to the market discipline that free market pressures necessitate (housing bubble due to artificially cheap money when the country had no savings). A regulated drug industry creates higher prices for drugs when we can (and do) buy them overseas cheaper and usually at just as high of quality. A regulated food industry that creates a public that is ridden with heart disease and obesity because we have lost touch with the need to regulate our own intake.

I think I hit most of the big points.

Unanimous Declaration

We hold these truths to be self evident... Sovereignty - Freedom

Let us get every sovereign natural citizen to understand the Declaration of Independence (what July 4th, 1776 really means)

The Constitution (law of the land) will automatically fall in place...

Freedom and Limited Government

I don't like the use of liberty or any of its derivatives. It is a French word. Freedom should be used as a replacement. I tried to get the LP to change to the Freedom Party.

Sheldon Waxman

"Four legs good, two legs

"Four legs good, two legs bad"

Nah. I wouldn't try. There are too many subtle, yet vital points to realistically express in a single sentence. Any attempt to do so will yield nothing more than a platitude.

(BTW: Great, thought provoking question though)

Liberty and Freedom

for ALL!

The Essence of Liberty is

Liberty at the level of the individual.

That is it..

bare with me for a sec....

Though it is a simple understanding to you and I , to most of the sheep it will be a shocker..

The Constitution... More than just a preamble.....

I say it jokingly because the kids in schools these days are lucky if they get taught that....

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"......

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"......


" Self Ownership" that is the one true principle at heart of this movement, the concept of property in one's own person, expressed as the moral or natural right of a person to be the exclusive controller of his or her own body and life. I own myself therefore i own what i produce because they are equal. Self Ownership ensures equality because each owns himself. Self Ownership also gives birth to property rights which is the bases of American Law, and Self Ownership is the only argument that can be put forth without disagreement from the other side because they must first say, " i don't own myself" and then follow up by saying, " nor do i want to own myself".

Thanks to Ernest Hancock...

"Freedom is the answer, what's the question?"

The recent lecture posted to YouTube and linked to from the DP contained this line. I don't know if Mr. Hancock came up with this originally, but in my opinion it is an excellent approach. Whatever problems this nation is facing; economy, environment, health-care, etc. the libertarian approach provides not only the most effective and efficient method for solving the problem, but also provides the most (some say only) moral method for solving the problem.

The individual is a sovereign entity.

You could load it up more, but I think this is the most simple, straight forward statement one could make. Sovereignty implies liberty in my opinion.

"Trying to "fix" our economy is like trying to cure a caged animal of depression. The only true solution is to set it free."

Get real money back...

from the Money Masters] great vid with same name -here http://trueworldhistory.info/

And start following the constitution!

My karma ran over your dogma~

just a thought

Conceived in LIBERTY & dedicated to the proposition that ALL of mankind is EQUAL in value..you-no

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one idea

The term I think best describes the idea of Liberty is SELF-RELIANCE.

There is a peacful "coup" underway...

led by determined, unwavering, tenacious population of freedom fighters who will not ever give up. In short...us.

If you're a "professional politician"

Be afraid, be very afraid...

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Core concept: peace/freedom indivisible.

Each individual would be free to do anything that does not force (physically, or fraudulently or by polluting property) another against his/her will.

People should do what they

People should do what they want with their own lives as long as they don't force or coerce others to do things against their will.

Freedom spurs innovation, innovation spurs prosperity, prosperity spurs a higher quality life, a higher quality life spurs happiness.

1. Follow the Constitution and repeal unconstitutional laws

which have paved the way for a fascist empire to take over the globe, destroying America and wreaking havoc in other nations in the process.

Is that sentence too long?

My opinion is:

Americans Must regain monetary sovereignty to achieve true Liberty!!!


Ron Paul in 1981 realized this:

H. R. 391


(b) The Secretary of the Treasury is authorized and directed, as public demand requires, to issue gold coins in the

following denominations: five grams, ten grams, fifteen

grams, and thirty grams. Such coins shall bear no designation

of value other than the weight of the gold contained therein.


Have you read about how most of medicare spending is for people

in the very last stages of their lives, just to slightly postpone the inevitable?

I think mostly the effort of this "liberty movement" is a similar squander of effort to save that which is doomed already, the federal government.

When organizations become so complex that the return is negative, they have no possible other course than to ultimately collapse, as the cost rises to levels far in excess of benefit.

The federal government is beyond political control and will soon either collapse of its own weight or be overthrown by an outraged population (within a decade or two). This is so, because the output of the industrial age, which the federal government plunders to feed itself, has entered a long term period of contraction (many decades long) for lack of energy to sustain it. Even if it were possible to scale back the federal government peacefully, the federal government has outlived its usefulness. Small and decentralized now has much greater survival value than centralization.

While I have admired Dr. Paul's intellect and courage over the years, I think he is whipping a dead horse.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

The message is "LIBERTY" - there is no "movement"

There are people coming to an understanding, then assuming the responsibilities that enable one to reclaim their liberty. If enough individuals do this, there will eventually be adequate numbers of people leading by example to change the system.
"Leading" a LIBERTY movement is an oxymoron. Ask anyone who was involved with the Presidential campaign...

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.


Totally agree

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Limited government, honest money, personal liberty.

"Government spending cannot create additional jobs. If the government provides the funds required by taxing the citizens or by borrowing from the public, it abolishes on the one hand as many jobs as it creates on the other.", www.mises.org

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

The messge of the Liberty movement

"why don't everybody else, leave everybody else alone? Hey, you do your thing & I'll do my thing too." Hank Williams Jr.

"What was taken from the boomers, it ain't there, what was taken from the X'ers it ain't there, what is being taken from their great, great, great squared grandchildren it ain't there. Some generation just has to have the guts to quit passing it on." Me

*May the only ones to touch your junk, be the ones you want to touch your junk.*


" I'm NOT an animal, I'm a human being." Elephant Man

No seriously..

I think this question was answered at the birth of our country. The message was.



"The man who makes unheard of pronouncements that reveal themselves to be true is a proven genius. The man who scoffs at the pronouncements as folly proves himself to be a fool. Time is the true revealer of genius or foolishness." –Will Pitts

"I am not a number. I am a FREE man!"

"The courage of one man is a majority" - Andrew Jackson

Thanks, Everyone, for your feedback. Now.....

Why do you think this message is not spreading faster than it is?

Also, most of you wrote about rights, and one wrote about the rules of the Constitution. Do you all have any opinion about which is easier for the average citizen to understand---rights or rules?

Jack Pelham
Rule of Law Revolution

Freedom is the answer, what's the question?

The reason this message isn't spreading faster is because most people have a corrupted concept of what true freedom actually means. I would imagine most people would embrace any statist solution which benefits them, regardless of its effects on other people, especially people they don't personally know or care for.

Receiving government assistance is the 'heroin' of state power. These numerous programs give people the false impression that the state is working for them, towards their empowerment. What they often fail to realize are the hidden costs. These costs extend beyond just taxes, tariffs, duties, and liscensing fees. They erode the philosophical underpinnings of the republic.

As for rights, most people think that the US Constitution/Bill of Rights "grants" us our rights. If you can show people that rights are "granted" to us by "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God", existed before the Constitution was written, and are therefore superior and untouchable by any written document no matter how sublime. Creating this understanding in your fellow man will go along way to freeing their mind.

Rules (not Natural Law) on the other hand are contractual...which is an extremely large kettle of fish not recommended for the novice.