ive talked to my fiance about this issue starting over a year ago. I made my position that if we ever have kids thered be zero vaccination injected into my offspring. She took the complete opposite stance that she wouldnt have kids if they werent vaxed.
A year later, we're agreed that we dont even want to use a hospital but rather a midwife of some sort, and theres no way that either of us would let injections happen on the first day behind our backs.
On a side note, we both are agreed that flu vaccines are a joke and agree that they probably just make you sick.
I owe this community and a particular coworker thanks for making me even question this topic in the first place.
Thimerosal has not been banned as an ingredient in vaccines, so it's still legal to use. The pharmaceutical companies claimed in 2001 they would voluntarily remove it from their products with the exception of flu shots, but these companies tend to manufacture large stockpiles that can last for years and none of them have been taken off the market.
The CDC and FDA claim vaccines containing thimerosal are no longer being used, but I know of plenty of parents, when they were advised to check the vaccine ingredient lists just to be certain, saw "thimerosal" still listed as an ingredient. Most likely, children aren't getting significantly less mercury from their shots now than they were before 2001, and possibly more, because the number of mandated vaccines keeps increasing.
I tend to agree with Dr. Carley that the whole thimerosal/mercury issue is almost a distraction - although it IS a very very toxic substance.
She also claims that autism (plus a myriad of other diseases/ailments) would still happen even if the mercury were to be fully removed. She doesn't believe in the whole "greening" of the vaccines.
Vaccine manufacturers have been caught putting a pregnancy hormone called HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) into a certain percentage of vaccines given to Filipinos of child-bearing age.
The result? Spontaneous abortion during pregnancy. What a great way for the elites to control world population.
Submitted by vinrose66 on Sun, 06/14/2009 - 00:48.
Tetanus vaccine may be laced with anti-fertility drug. International / developing countries. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12346214
Check out the related articles, too.
Submitted by coloforpaul on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 23:02.
HCG does not cause Spontaneous abortion during pregnancy. HCG is the "pregnancy hormone". It supports the pregnancy & causes the morning sickness etc that shows a good strong pregnancy. Please correct whoever gave you that info.
R J Aiken, M Paterson and P Thillai Koothan
MRC Reproductive Biology Unit, University of Edinburgh Edinburgh, UK
Abstract
Three major approaches to contraceptive vaccine development are being pursued at the present time. The most advanced approach, which has already reached the stage of phase 2 clinical trials, involves the induction of immunity against human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG). Vaccines are being engineered based on conjugates incorporating tetanus or diptheria toxoid linked to a variety of hCG-based peptides centred on the ß-subunit of this molecule. Clinical trials have revealed that such preparations are capable of stimulating the production of anti-hCG antibodies. However, the long term consequences of such immunity in terms of safety or efficacy are, as yet, unknown. The alternative approaches to contraceptive vaccine development involve the induction of immunity against gamete-specific antigens found on the surface of the human spermatozoon or the zona pellucida. There is an abundance of experimental and clinical data to suggest that this approach is feasible although the biochemical characterization and synthesis of candidate antigens is still incomplete.
Based on the abstract I just quoted, some may say that there’s no proof this contraceptive-vaccine ever got off the ground – however - it DOES prove that there IS being developed - using the tetanus and diphtheria vaccines as piggy-backs – a vaccine which is also a contraceptive.
It isn't just autism, my co-worker has an eight month old that started having febrile seizures after her 4 month vaccines. Then when her daughter had her 6 month vaccines with in 24 hours her seizures have been so bad that she has been knocked out and intubated 3 different times just to get her through the ordeal. Actually she's not my co-worker anymore since she has to quit her job and lose her medical coverage just to care for her child.
WHAT ELSE ARE IN THESE DAMN SHOTS!!! Aids is linked to vaccines, Baxter tried to send out a vaccine that contained a viral cocktail of H5n1 and the common cold flu - exactly what would be needed to mutate the virus once mixed and incubated in a person's body.
For crying out loud how can this continue for even one more day, it has to stop these people are Nazis!
Don't you know the pharmaceutical industry is a huge part of the economy, and therefore, you are engaging in "economic terrorism" for bad-mouthing these cartelists?
(sarcasm done)
Along with the false left/right paradigm, we have also been brainwashed that to speak out against evil corporations is somehow against so-called "free-enterprise" or "free-markets".
Why can't things just be labeled either "good" or "bad".....or "right or "wrong"?
Does anyone remember that song by Joe Jackson called "Right and Wrong" from about 1985?
Submitted by ShineTheLight on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 23:52.
and he should not have been, nor anyone else. These hosts LOVE to hear themselves talk. Thimerosal supposedly has been removed from inoculations. Yes, No???
Submitted by MMJ Ministry on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 06:01.
Autism Debate with Jenny McCarthy on The Doctors Part One http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oEtF8FdqpA
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Submitted by Debunkamatic (not verified) on Wed, 06/03/2009 - 22:12.
If they were putting something in the vacines to give us autism, then why doesn't everyone get it? Why make something that affects 1-2 children in a 1000? Thats not a very effective NWO scheme is it. 1 in 125 babies are born with a congenital heart defect. What is causing this? Chemtrail, 9/11 dust, fluroide?
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Because the thimerosal lowers the IQ of most but has a extreme reaction in a few causing autism. This is about the dumbing down of society so that citizens are passive consuming sheep, not sharp and intelligent creatures who may otherwise challenge the people running things. It’s not hyperbolic to compare this to what the Nazis tried to do/did.
healthy and wonderful boy. At nine months old I was made to feel 'negligent' if I did not 'consent' to my son having the shots. I didn't want that for my baby. Of course if you fit the definition of 'negligent' then the state takes your child. I feared they would attempt to take him from me if I did not consent. This is coercion in the highest degree!
My son was horrifically injured by MMR/Pertusis. He seizured and his temp went to 106!!!!! We thought he would die. Many degrees of Austism are prevalent in so many kids now it is too breathtaking in its implications of the criminal intentions brought upon all of us.
If vaccines caused too high an autism rate, fewer people would believe they don't cause autism and more people would refuse the shots. It could get to the point where the pharmaceutical companies would actually have to answer for their criminal activity. It could literally put multinational companies out of business. There also needs to be enough kids with enough wits left to grow up and become tax paying adults.
Personally, I don't think they caused this intentionally, but now that it happened they have no choice but to keep the lid on it and deny everything.
Sometimes these forums are confusing as to whom is responding to whom.
Plus, in me making this clear, it bumps this thread back to the top which may enable a family to save their kids from being assaulted by Offit's Profits.
Have any kids been spared by any of you all this weekend?
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Hopefully this thread has saved a few kids from their death-serums.
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ive talked to my fiance
ive talked to my fiance about this issue starting over a year ago. I made my position that if we ever have kids thered be zero vaccination injected into my offspring. She took the complete opposite stance that she wouldnt have kids if they werent vaxed.
A year later, we're agreed that we dont even want to use a hospital but rather a midwife of some sort, and theres no way that either of us would let injections happen on the first day behind our backs.
On a side note, we both are agreed that flu vaccines are a joke and agree that they probably just make you sick.
I owe this community and a particular coworker thanks for making me even question this topic in the first place.
I love hearing stories like this !!!!!!!
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Is thimerosal
in or out of vaccines at this point?
Depends who you talk to
Thimerosal has not been banned as an ingredient in vaccines, so it's still legal to use. The pharmaceutical companies claimed in 2001 they would voluntarily remove it from their products with the exception of flu shots, but these companies tend to manufacture large stockpiles that can last for years and none of them have been taken off the market.
The CDC and FDA claim vaccines containing thimerosal are no longer being used, but I know of plenty of parents, when they were advised to check the vaccine ingredient lists just to be certain, saw "thimerosal" still listed as an ingredient. Most likely, children aren't getting significantly less mercury from their shots now than they were before 2001, and possibly more, because the number of mandated vaccines keeps increasing.
Thimerosal only ONE of many toxic ingredients
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I tend to agree with Dr. Carley that the whole thimerosal/mercury issue is almost a distraction - although it IS a very very toxic substance.
She also claims that autism (plus a myriad of other diseases/ailments) would still happen even if the mercury were to be fully removed. She doesn't believe in the whole "greening" of the vaccines.
Vaccines cannot be greened.
Here's her incredible paper:
INOCULATIONS: THE TRUE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
CAUSING VIDS (VACCINE INDUCED DISEASES)
(AN EPIDEMIC OF GENOCIDE)
by Rebecca Carley, M.D.
And here's her website:
www.drcarley.com
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And how sweet would it be for your child to also have arthritis?
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Everytime I post an article by Sherri Tenpenny in some other forums, some fool always has to say. "BUT SHE'S A D.O." (doctor of osteopathy).
Meanwhile, she knows more than ANYone's doctor about vaccinations - BY FAR !!!!
WHY IS CHILDHOOD ARTHRITIS ON THE RISE?
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I was shocked to learn this. . .
Vaccine manufacturers have been caught putting a pregnancy hormone called HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) into a certain percentage of vaccines given to Filipinos of child-bearing age.
The result? Spontaneous abortion during pregnancy. What a great way for the elites to control world population.
As you can see from this article, vaccine manufacturers cannot be trusted to provide a safe product.
http://www.rense.com/general54/Cancer-causing_vaccinesR.htm
Since vaccines represent BIG money for manufacturers, it is not surprising that any negatives effects-such as autism- will be denied.
More links ...
Tetanus vaccine may be laced with anti-fertility drug. International / developing countries. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12346214
Check out the related articles, too.
Also, Selma Hayek is the UNICEF paid spokesperson for Pampers "One Pack=One Vaccine" campaign.
http://www.unicefusa.org/news/news-from-the-field/unicef-pam...
Do you think she knows? Hmmm.
HCG does not cause
HCG does not cause Spontaneous abortion during pregnancy. HCG is the "pregnancy hormone". It supports the pregnancy & causes the morning sickness etc that shows a good strong pregnancy. Please correct whoever gave you that info.
colorfulpaul, I highly suggest you read this abstract
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They are creating - or HAVE created - an IMMUNITY against HCG.
You can no longer claim ignorance or be in denial.
And keep in mind, this was way back in 1993.
British Medical Bulletin - - Contraceptive vaccines
Based on the abstract I just quoted, some may say that there’s no proof this contraceptive-vaccine ever got off the ground – however - it DOES prove that there IS being developed - using the tetanus and diphtheria vaccines as piggy-backs – a vaccine which is also a contraceptive.
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What happened to colorfulpaul?
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Why no response to this?
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colorfulpaul - no follow-up?
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Read Lee's link
in it's entirety. It explains how the HCG caused infertility in these young women.
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It isn't just autism, my
It isn't just autism, my co-worker has an eight month old that started having febrile seizures after her 4 month vaccines. Then when her daughter had her 6 month vaccines with in 24 hours her seizures have been so bad that she has been knocked out and intubated 3 different times just to get her through the ordeal. Actually she's not my co-worker anymore since she has to quit her job and lose her medical coverage just to care for her child.
WHAT ELSE ARE IN THESE DAMN
WHAT ELSE ARE IN THESE DAMN SHOTS!!! Aids is linked to vaccines, Baxter tried to send out a vaccine that contained a viral cocktail of H5n1 and the common cold flu - exactly what would be needed to mutate the virus once mixed and incubated in a person's body.
For crying out loud how can this continue for even one more day, it has to stop these people are Nazis!
QUIT ROCKING THE BOAT !!!!
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Don't you know the pharmaceutical industry is a huge part of the economy, and therefore, you are engaging in "economic terrorism" for bad-mouthing these cartelists?
(sarcasm done)
Along with the false left/right paradigm, we have also been brainwashed that to speak out against evil corporations is somehow against so-called "free-enterprise" or "free-markets".
Why can't things just be labeled either "good" or "bad".....or "right or "wrong"?
Does anyone remember that song by Joe Jackson called "Right and Wrong" from about 1985?
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www.vaclib.org
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Check this
Check this also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE8kmifM6HU
I thought Alex Jones was joking about this but not anymore, this is horrible.
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Teach a man to phish and he'll clean out your bank account.
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Kennedy is not used to being interrupted
and he should not have been, nor anyone else. These hosts LOVE to hear themselves talk. Thimerosal supposedly has been removed from inoculations. Yes, No???
Autism Debate with Jenny McCarthy on The Doctors Part One
Autism Debate with Jenny McCarthy on The Doctors Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oEtF8FdqpA
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`Wise people, even though all laws were abolished, would still lead the same life'- Aristophanes -
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
this is why we fight
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Ron Paul Supporter Since 1997
`Wise people, even though all laws were abolished, would still lead the same life'- Aristophanes -
“We have allowed our nation to be over taxed and over regulated and overrun by bureaucrats, the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.” Ron Paul
If they were putting
If they were putting something in the vacines to give us autism, then why doesn't everyone get it? Why make something that affects 1-2 children in a 1000? Thats not a very effective NWO scheme is it. 1 in 125 babies are born with a congenital heart defect. What is causing this? Chemtrail, 9/11 dust, fluroide?
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Banned for not agreeing with the truthers. Welcome to the DailyPrisonPlanetPaul
Because the thimerosal
Because the thimerosal lowers the IQ of most but has a extreme reaction in a few causing autism. This is about the dumbing down of society so that citizens are passive consuming sheep, not sharp and intelligent creatures who may otherwise challenge the people running things. It’s not hyperbolic to compare this to what the Nazis tried to do/did.
Autism stats
Affects 1 out of every 150 children...........
My son was one of them. He was born a perfectly
healthy and wonderful boy. At nine months old I was made to feel 'negligent' if I did not 'consent' to my son having the shots. I didn't want that for my baby. Of course if you fit the definition of 'negligent' then the state takes your child. I feared they would attempt to take him from me if I did not consent. This is coercion in the highest degree!
My son was horrifically injured by MMR/Pertusis. He seizured and his temp went to 106!!!!! We thought he would die. Many degrees of Austism are prevalent in so many kids now it is too breathtaking in its implications of the criminal intentions brought upon all of us.
How dumb are you?
If vaccines caused too high an autism rate, fewer people would believe they don't cause autism and more people would refuse the shots. It could get to the point where the pharmaceutical companies would actually have to answer for their criminal activity. It could literally put multinational companies out of business. There also needs to be enough kids with enough wits left to grow up and become tax paying adults.
Personally, I don't think they caused this intentionally, but now that it happened they have no choice but to keep the lid on it and deny everything.
You're not funny.
This doesn't have to be an intentional scheme "to give us autism" for people to not want to be forced to put themselves or their loved ones at risk.
Jiminy Cricket is referring to Debunkamatic - not me.
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Sometimes these forums are confusing as to whom is responding to whom.
Plus, in me making this clear, it bumps this thread back to the top which may enable a family to save their kids from being assaulted by Offit's Profits.
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www.vaclib.org
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www.vaclib.org
you are correct
when a thread gets bumped back to the top it may enable a family to save their kids from being assaulted by Offits's Profits. :O)