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If you believe in 'our country' and 'our constitution'...

Please think about and answer this question.

What gives you the right to tell the unborn what rules they must live by and that they must repay the debt that the government is currently amassing?

Explain to me how that's not slavery.




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SteveMT's picture

Unfortunately none, 35M of the unborn have never been given....

the opportunity to be a slave or not, either way. They were terminated.

To answer your good question:

.....you would support it, as it was written.

We would never be slaves if we could only do that.

Good point!

What hope can we have for reclamation while this still goes on?

How does it feel knowing you're selling your progeny to slavery?

I'm sure your children and grandchildren will simply see their slavery as 'doing their part' too. After all, they'll be 'free' the way you are right now, right?

You sell your kids into slavery..

Your kids don't have a SSN, and they learn to work with their hands or anything that is under the table, keep their lives simple and surrounded by family...and they are born with no debt.

We choose slavery because of its convienences and our ignorance.

If you're ignorant of the truth and know of no other way..

.. is it still a choice when you go along with your slavery?

Slavery and education are incompatible with each other. - F.Douglas

What gives them the ability?

If you are a US citizen, the 14th amendment..........it's called "privileges and immunities", that the government gets to decided what they are and what is needed.
It's not slavery when there is consent.
So, in reality the unborn are not party to what is going on right now, but they will be when they get here.

I don't consent

If you know of no other choice, can you consent?

Yes, you can still consent;

the difficult part is the assent.

Interesting, but illogical.

If I were to tell you that there is only one road between two places you had to travel and to deviate from that road is to invite your certain death, would your choice to use that road be a choice at all?

I think the 14th is

I think the 14th is misleading.It made people not born in a state and those that were naturalized,and subject of the jurisdiction of the U.S.,citizens of the U.S. and also made those people citizens of the state in which they lived.
It states nowhere that people born in a state are citizens of the U.S.,but that The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all
Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.[Article. IV. Section. 2.]
I guess we have to ask ourselves,are we really citizens of the U.S.? If so then you are subject to their jurisdiction by which they can exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such
District...

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"All human constitutions are subject to corruption and must perish unless they are timely renewed and reduced to their first principles.'" --Thomas Jefferson

13 No servant can serve two masters; for either he shall hate the one, and love the other, or else he shall lean to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and riches. - Luke 16

The property of the state

The property of the state and the federal government is "protected".The property must be nurtured in a way to benefit these entities through forced vaccinations,forced education and other ways deemed by law.The desired result is a obedient taxpayer/consumer that has an illusion of freedom inside their cage erected by unconstitutional laws.

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"All human constitutions are subject to corruption and must perish unless they are timely renewed and reduced to their first principles.'" --Thomas Jefferson

13 No servant can serve two masters; for either he shall hate the one, and love the other, or else he shall lean to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and riches. - Luke 16

What is slavery?

Slavery: a condition in which one is not allowed to exercise his right of self ownership.

"What gives you the right to tell the unborn what rules they must live by and that they must repay the debt that the government is currently amassing?"

A) You can "tell" the unborn/babies what rules they must live by all you want. But if that "telling" moves over into forcing them...then it becomes a problem.
I think I know what you're getting at here, you might want to reword that so it's more clear.
B) Affixing the debt to them is definitely slavery.

It's definitely 'tell'

But the real problem is that jackboots with guns are willing to enforce those words.

Proposed Constitutional Amendment

"The Congress may not secure debt linked to future taxation or general fees, any debt secured must be self-liquidating in order to support specifically outlined enumerated powers granted to the Federal Government in the U.S. Constitution with exclusion of the "general welfare" clause."

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Very easy answer...

It is, of course, debt slavery.

I like easy answers!

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