New Fundraising email
Submitted by dante on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 10:14Just got this.
November 27, 2007
Our goal - our one and only goal - is to elect Ron Paul president of the United States. But as of this message, time is not on our side.
We have approximately 900 hours until the Iowa caucuses and about 1,000 hours until voters in New Hampshire go to the polls. That's just 900 hours for all of us to do what we can to make sure Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination for president.
Dr. Paul's best opportunity to win the nomination is for him to make a strong showing in the early primary states of New Hampshire, Iowa, Michigan, South Carolina, and Nevada. Appropriately, the most important part of our campaign strategy is an unrelenting blitz of radio and TV ads in these states.
The evidence shows very strongly that consistent, targeted media exposure is the best tool to increase Ron Paul's name recognition. It's no accident that Dr. Paul is surging in early primary states. Recent polls show him at 8% in New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina, and 6% in Iowa. In most cases, this represents a doubling of our poll numbers in just two weeks!
Your grassroots support on the ground, coupled with targeted media is critical to all of these efforts. Because half of "likely voters" still haven't heard of Ron Paul, we have plenty of room to double our poll numbers again. The donations that you make now allow us to continue our current level of intense media in these states uninterrupted.
Remember: We're battling against the likes of Mitt Romney, who is spending close to a million dollars per week on TV ads alone. The more we raise, and the sooner we raise it, the better we can compete.
And now that Michigan's primary also will be held in January, meeting the $12 million mark as soon as possible is more important than ever. This goal represents the minimum amount that we believe is necessary to make a strong run at the nomination. But because of the wealth and connections of the other candidates, none of us should be content with any amount that we raise. After all, we can't be satisfied with merely giving Ron Paul a chance to win the Republican nomination. We have to be determined to give him the absolute best chance possible.
The political elites recognize that Ron Paul is for real, and that he is the only first tier candidate with a message that threatens their power. It's no wonder that Rudy Giuliani, as reported in yesterday's Washington Post, is now on the offensive against Ron Paul.
Everyone involved in any way with this campaign has been making sacrifices that often go unnoticed and unrecognized. The selflessness with which you all donate to and volunteer for Ron Paul is the best sign that what we are doing truly is bigger than any one of us. On behalf of our campaign, I sincerely thank you for everything that you do every single day.
All of us recognize that this political race is not a game. It will prove to be the most important presidential election of our lifetimes.
Help us continue to repeatedly exceed expectations. Make your most generous donation today: https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate.
Jonathan Bydlak
Fundraising Director
Ron Paul 2008
Please!
Donate whenever you can and donate on Nov 30 and Dec 16. More the money, more airtime on TV and radio. It is as simple as that. If you don't want or don't have then no problems but please don't bother in sharing complaint-driven opinions which are just negative. Sure Ron Paul's campaign has problems but nothing is perfect.
The only time I would stop my support when Ron Paul changes his position or becomes dishonest. I know that will never happen and it has never happened in 30 years and it will never happen in future. So I am now a life-long RP supporter.
There is absolutely nothing better you can do than donating any day you can, spreading the word, voting in the primaries and voting in the general election. Thats the best way to do something for the good man who has been doing much more than you can ever do for you for the last 30 years. Please concentrate on what is good about the campaign and the greatness of the message rather than worrying about being pessimistic about the whole campaign just because someone has sent which you don't want to read.
Ron Paul 08
I'd disagree
My point about Huckabee is that he really didn't get all that much media coverage lately UNTIL he went from 8% to 21% in Iowa.
So that begs the question, how the heck did Huckabee, with almost no money rise so quickly in the polls with NO MONEY and NO GRASSROOTS SUPPORT?
That's a huge jump!
My point is simply that Ron Paul is overflowing in money, trying to figure out how to spend it, and still only gets 7-8% in New Hampshire: a libertarian republican state.
If the campaign can demonstrate to me that my first donation was worthwhile in that they can spend it well and increase Ron's numbers in New Hampshire, I will donate more when I see 10% polling in NH.
Hey, I think Ron Paul is a great man. That doesn't mean his campaign knows how to effectively promote him. They are two seperate issues.
I mean I think Huckabee is an idiot, but his campaign took what little money he has raised and turned his 8% to 21% in Iowa to beat Giuliani and take second place. THAT'S an effective campaign. Making something huge from almost nothing. Impressive.
I don't see anything wrong with this email...
What is the big deal???
They are just asking for more donations...they have a job to do too and that is raising cash. I choose to ignore it and donate on the 16th. I prefer media coverage right now...they can spend that money raised in the two weeks leading up to the early primaries. sorry, but we can change our dates any more than they can change the primary dates. ;)
"It does not take a majority to prevail. But rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." ~Samuel Adams while plotting the Boston Tea Party.
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Just my opinion,
but there is more to a fundraising job than sitting behind a desk sending out emails.
I would hope Ron Paul's fundraiser has a little more imagination for fundraising events and that sending out emails is not his only talent.
This happens to be the job description for a charity fundraiser, which probably isn't much different than a non charity one.
It seems to fall in line with what Overhaul-with-Paul had to say about his experience as a chairty fundraiser.
Looks like Overhaul knows what he or she is talking about.
Link
Typical work activities
Tasks typically include:
developing new and imaginative fundraising activities, many of which will be events-based;
working with all forms of the media to promote, market and advertise forthcoming events;
organising traditional fundraising activities, such as flag days and house-to-house collections of donated goods and monies;
increasing funds through researching and targeting charitable trusts sympathetic to the charity;
developing and implementing a strategy for the recruitment and
development of individual and corporate supporters;
overseeing corporate fundraising, including employee giving and matched giving from employers;
building and maintaining profitable, long-term fundraising relationships with donors and potential donors - this may include the writing and circulation of regular newsletters;
raising awareness of the charity and its work at both a local and national level - this may involve giving talks to groups, doing radio interviews and writing press releases;
developing and co-ordinating web-based fundraising, online auctions and the selling of merchandise;
writing applications and mail-shots and organising the use of direct mailing to a wide range of potential and current donors;
recruiting, organising and working with volunteers and supporting them in their endeavours - in large national charities you may be responsible for several hundred volunteers working in your area;
preparing reports for both donors and trustees of the charity;
making risk analyses and balancing time-cost ratios to ensure you
choose the most appropriate fundraising activities with the highest chance of success;
monitoring income and expenditure against the budget allocated and the target that has been determined;
designing and producing support materials, such as posters and newsletters.
Their job?
Responding to Kemp below:
I have personally raised nearly $5 million dollars in small increments in my years as president of a non-profit organization. This is money I have raised through personal cultivation of donors and through collaborative cultivation with board members and other volunteers I’ve recruited, it doesn’t count dollars raised by my staff people. Virtually none of the money comes in on its own. On a daily basis, I have been listening to donors, writing creative grant proposals, thank you letters, writing and spending budgets, designing staffing patterns around funds received and receivables, writing fund accountability reports and more since Jon Bydlak was in kindergarten. Can you accept I know a little something? Then read on.
There are two things the Campaign is not seeing. One, they are flogging the base. The base is passionate as we regularly see from the input of a couple of hundred DP posters. But all donors, many tens of thousands, get Bydlak’s emails, and it will do damage that is unseen. Donors have different levels of commitment, that is an indisputable fact. The lower two-thirds in terms of RP commitment, perhaps 50,000 people currently, you never hear from on DP and most don’t lurk here so don’t worry about them reading this. They will begin to question why they are being flogged for more money (thanklessly in the first email) instead of quick, regular reports on the sweet goodness being done with contributions, and the hard work the campaign ITSELF is doing in the days ahead, trying to get hosts for special private meetings with Dr. Paul, and much, much more. That leads to number two.
These 50,000 donors are not getting a tax write-off (as my donors are) and are even more likely to need to believe their money is being spent wisely. And though ads are important, are they MOST important? JB says ‘Appropriately, the most important part of our campaign strategy is an unrelenting blitz of radio and TV ads in these states.’ Buchanan beat Dole in New Hampshire. McCain beat Bush there, and both were wildly outspent. Huckabee’s rise in Iowa happened with little money. Are unrelenting ad buys the wisest strategy? It certainly is the easiest for the Campaign staff. And we DP posters are the choir, we tend to say ‘oh those people in the tv commercials are not actors, cut them some slack,’ and ‘the guy’s just 24 (Bydlak) he’s learning, give him a chance.’ The 50,000 donors I speak of don’t think that way. They won’t get irate (because they don’t care as deeply as we do) but they will quietly and subtly turn off, like a small candle that could have burned brighter. I know this because my career is to get the maximum light out of every candle.
Jon speaks to RP donors as bloggers instead of as those he is ultimately accountable to: present and future donors. He is right that this is not a game. The stakes are high, and we need excellence, top to bottom. I will give on November 30th and on the 16th, but this is not about me, it’s about winning. And we need those 50,000 donors to do that.
-JP
The first 5 million supporters of Dr. Paul are 'early adopters.' The next 10 million will require a modified approach.
"Huckabee’s rise in Iowa happened with little money. "
Exactly. I was astonished when I saw the jump from 8% to 21% polling for Huckabee. A guy who has raised a mere fraction of what Ron Paul has raised.
The way I see it is that Ron Paul's campaign raised $14 million ($5 from lat quarter, so far over $9 million this one).
So as Ron Paul states, he has the money and his supporters expect him to use it WELL.
To me the barometer of success lies in the poll numbers. Look I understand all the arguments about cell phones, independents, who voted last election, etc. That doesn't negate the fact that REPUBLICANS still need to support this guy. The great thing about everyone running is that the highest a candidate can get is 30% in the polls in any state. That means a percentage point here or there gained makes a whopping difference.
Given ALL the arguments about the unreliableness of polling, I still think Ron Paul's number needs to be 12-15% in landline polls in order to secure a victory in New Hampshire.
$14 million and his message should by any metric get him at least up to 10%. This is what I am waiting for before I decide to donate again on December 16. Ron needs 3-4 more percentage points to assure me his campaign knows what its doing and call sell his message.
BTW stop these idiotic pleas for money early. The campaign said $12 million by the end of December. And the majority of it is in. December 16 gave me enough time to see how effectively the campaign is using its money.
Again, Huckabee has a small fraction of our money in his coffers and he is at 21% in an early primary state. What does that tell you?
Point taken
You make some valid and good points. The fund-raising emails need to be composed in a better manner. Individuals generally want a "quality" product. Therefore, as a supplier, it is your job to promote the quality of your product.
I think the emails should contain some more information as to how the money is being spent, how that has been effective thus far, and have a positive tone.
You are very correct in assuming many supporters do not "troll" the websites. I know quite a few individuals that are planning on voting for RP that NEVER get on this site or even the official page. Therefore, the campaign needs to relay the positive outcomes that an individual's money is making.
Think about it: "Your donation of 25 cents a day will provide a hungry child with food." or "Thank you for your donation. With your help we have given thousands of individuals access the prescription drugs they need, but there are thousands more. Please continue to support our cause... blah blah."
Good points... I'm not going to knock the idea of a campaign sending out email in spite of a grassroots effort, but we can criticize the emails themselves.
- kipload
idealogs.blogspot.com
Keep Posting This Wisdom
Keep giving us these nuggets. The Ron Paul Apostles will be more than happy to put your experience and information to work!
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
Think...
The official campaign has NOTHING to do with Dec. 16th so it is in their best interest to send out fund-raising email. They have to collect money. Period. They do not know, do not want to know, nor control our efforts. For all they know we could raise $1 or $10,000,000. However, they have to keep a steady stream of money coming in.
If you cannot donate anymore than what you have allotted for Dec. 16th and that's when you want to donate. Fine. However, if you are planning on donating $500 of $1000 then split it up, or don't. Remember, its all about you as an individual.
They have a plan and are simply asking you to follow suit. If you don't believe what they are doing is the best thing then horde your cash back for the 16th, but don't ridicule the PCC of the man your are trying to get elected. If you can run a better campaign then run one.
- kipload
idealogs.blogspot.com
Ron Paul
is looking forward to December 16th, toss that savant e-mail asking for donations.
G_d bless
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G_d bless
Different Audience
This e-mail is sent out to everyone who registered on Ron Paul's website. This is going to be sent to a lot of people who will know nothing about "money bombs", and probably wouldn't care much about joining one even if they did. This kind of e-mail will reach out to those people, and they are more likely to give when the money is requested.
It could just be that the campaign does not want to hijack the December 16th, but they want to encourage those who are not involved in the money bomb event to go ahead and give anyway.
I, personally, am planning to wait for December 16th. I cannot afford to do both.
quality
Quality letter from Jonathon. Hey, you do care.
"Freedom Is A Road Seldom Traveled By The Multitude." - Frederick Douglass
A Note About the Polls
As another poster mentioned Ron Paul's low numbers, I thought I would shed a little light on the polls. First, the polls are important as they do reflect the impression of a group of important Republican voters. However, they only represent a subset of the Republican base. Most of the people polled belong to the relatively small block of voters who voted in the last Republican primary in 2004. This primary had the lowest voter turnout of any primary with only 6.6% of the vote, and it was predominantly a pro-Bush crowd.
What does this mean? It means that among staunch G. W. Bush supporters, Ron Paul has convinced 8% of them in New Hampshire to vote for him -- 5% nationally. This is actually very encouraging to me as it means long time Republicans are starting to wake up from their sleep and realized that they have been misled.
It also means that they are missing another large block of Republican voters: those who chose not to vote in the last primary and those who could not vote in the last primary. Many people who could vote, like myself, skipped the primary entirely because it was 1) unnecessary as G. W. Bush was a shoe-in as an incumbent and war-time President and/or 2) there were no other good candidates to choose from. The last meaningful primary was held in 2000 in which anyone under the age of 26 would have been ineligible to vote. We all know that there is a large base of support in this age group for Ron Paul.
Add to this the Democrats, Libertarians, and Independents who are joining the Republican party to vote for Ron Paul, and the numbers are likely to be considerably low. I have heard speculation from well informed people in New Hampshire that Ron Paul's numbers are solidly in the double digits.
We should not take this news as a reason to sit back and relax though. Even if Ron Paul pulls 20%, it will likely not be enough to take the primary, and he needs to start winning primaries soon in order to have a chance at the nomination. However, we also should not be discouraged by his numbers. The fact that his support has doubled among die-hard Bush supports is very encouraging. We need to continue to spread the message, and giving money to Ron Paul's campaign is one excellent way for us to do that.
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The Tea Party is a cool idea, but a donation then is in effect worth less than the same donation now. Money now is worth more than money in December.
Strangely, I would beg to differ ...significantly.
I used to be a person who disliked "pledges" and "mass donation days" and all of that stuff.
With the campaign in the GOOD cash situation that it is now (from the fund-raising vs spending data we have available, there is no current "crisis") -- and the REALLY big needs for cash being for the January time-frame in advertising for the HUGE 21-state primary day on February 5 -- money on December 16th is just as good as "money now" -- in fact, money on Dec 16th will be BETTER than money now, because if it EXCEEDS Nov5th, we'll get excellent press; conversely if it is LESS than Nov5th, the media pundits will spin it NEGATIVELY as a "loss" of support. And they won't care how much has been raised in the quarter... they are simply looking for something to "spin."
I think the staffers are just getting a but "testy" and "squeamish" (though this most recent letter had a much better "tone" -- more respectful and less demanding). But I also believe that they feel/think THEY as the campaign "leaders" need to be pulling the proverbial cart -- I'd be pretty shocked if they DIDN'T think that -- and as they are normal human beings, deep down inside, there's probably at least a little bit of ...shall we say "resentment" at being pulled BY the cart.
I Agree With You 100%
IMHO, Bydlak should concentrate on off-line fundraising. In business, and presumably in politics, when something is working extremely well -- especially if the results are surprising you -- you should leave it alone. For the most part Bydlak can only damage the online efforts; he can't help them. I don't mind the occasional "rah rah" messge, but it seems to me Bydlak is throwing HUGE monkey wrenches into the Dec. 16th effort.
I'm roughly half-way to maxing out my $2300 at this point. I'm waiting to pay off the last round of credit card debt (I'm not going to borrow against 16% interest payments -- sorry), and I was planning on donating a minimum of $800 on Dec. 16th, and possibly maxing out (my plan was to donate $400 the first hour, $400 when the total passed $4M, and max out if the total passed $6M). But I have to ask myself if, as the last email implied, Dec. 16th is too late, why should I put myself through the pain of that sized donation? Why not just wait to see how the first set of primaries go, and then max out if they go well?
I'm a HUGE Ron Paul supporter. If I'm thinking that, others are thinking that as well. Yeah, I get that other people won't like that thinking, but it is what it is. IMHO, Bydlak is not good at his job, and he's hurting the campaign.
If I just read correctly
If I just read correctly that the head of the campaign staff is 24 yrs. old (!!!), I'm not happy about that. He should at most be a consultant. I've worked professionally with kids in their 20's and I'm sorry to say, the majority just do not have the life experience for this kind of thing. Trying to stay positive here! : /
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore
Remember Doogie Howser
Trying to help you stay positive.
That is all :)
-Dave
"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand
SHE STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN - Michael Savage in reference to Dianne Fienstein
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Campaign VS Ron Paul...
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=13...
Watch this video titled Brothel or some such - Ron Paul says himself he is *money rich* and touts Dec 16th... shall we fail him? Wont the media pounce?
Something that has bothered me
Today on Morning Joe Paul said he never expected to get this far, which I am sure he is telling the truth, but should he at least not have been prepared for it? he also said they really didn't know where to spend the money but are trying to, by adding another State, which leads me to believe that they have plenty of money in the first four States.
Also, they put December 31 as their DEADLINE on the official site "to win." Why if they knew they needed the money earlier didn't they just put Dec 1?
We have been bombarded with request for money, which would be fine if they were some sort of plan behind it, but first it was Dec 31 to win, then it was Dec 16 Tea party, then we were told to donate earlier, then it was Blimp, then it was Nov 30 Rudy's Reading, then it was $25 per week Money Bomb. Is it me or is it a bit confusing? The problem with spreading thin is no big day which means no ton of free media.
Correct me if I am wrong, PLEASE>
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Yes
. I support him all the way, however the clowns trying to run the show are entirely incompetent. They know who is really in charge. "We" the grassroots are the ones in charge. They try to take the reins from us with these silly pledge e-mails. This is to let these incompetent savants know that I for one will give again only on December 16th. Just say "no" to the incompetents with your donation on December 16th. Ron Paul is expecting us to donate big time on December 16th. Check out this link.
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=13...
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G_d bless
We all want something specific...
All of us are wanting a little more out of Dr.Paul. He is humble, yes. He is VERY honest, yes. That is why we like him so much.
He is surprised by his support. We have "cured his skepticism" That shouldn't deter us. Imagine supporting any of the other guys, there are so many things to fault. Even from a neutral perspective.
A campaign has never had the power of the internet behind it. the internet is the one bastion of freedom left in this country, and many don't know how to gauge it. Call it "controlled chaos".
The donation days have been in place for a long time.
Think of it from this perspective. When a big donation day comes along, and the numbers keep adding up, people will give! There were 17,000+ signed up for 11/5 and 39,000 gave. The beauty of grassroots and a willingness to want to be a part of something!
Stay the course, eyes on the prize. Give what you can when you can. If you give it your all, you have no reason to be sad. People have awoken with this movement. They have been given new life. The Message will continue.
"Make fun buddy..." - Ron Paul
also keep in mind...
There are alot of "old school" people in this movement too. They don't read the message boards. They don't have a finger on the pulse of this campaign like many of us do.
Perhaps Bydlak is trying to reach them.
There are always a hundred or so people on here kicking around ideas. That ia a mere fraction of the total supporters. We are hardly a representative cross-section. So there are going to be some more agressive responses to the campaign's requests for money.
"Make fun buddy..." - Ron Paul
I wasnt going to make waves but check out this video...
I was going to keep mum to day, but this video belays the campaign request... what is going on campaign vs Ron Paul..
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=13...
Just bought 500 slim jims.
My friend and I are passing them out this weekend.
"Freedom is popular"
-Ron Paul
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
"Freedom is popular"
-Ron Paul
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Ron can have a nice check from me when he polls 10% in NH
Huckabee jumped from 8% to 21% in Iowa with almost no money raised (1-2 million?), and no grassroots support.
Ron Paul has raised $14 million, lots of grassroots support, and has jumped from 2% to 8% in NH.
So the question is, who is getting far more bang for their donated dollar?
Huckabee.
That is what iritates me so.
Iowa is conservative christian. So Huckabee should do well there.
New Hampshire is libertarian republican. So Ron Paul should do well there
So why, with more money, is Ron Paul polling only at 7-8%?
Huckabee also has what Paul has: no national name recognition.
Huckabee also had no major MSM coverage until hitting that 21%.
So my message to the campaign is this. Get Ron's message out with the money you have and get those NH polls to show 10% or more. Do that, and I'll send you more. If you can't, then you aren't running an effective campaign with my donation.
You are wrong with due respect.
Understand that Huckabee has been getting 4 times more coverage than Ron Paul on MSM. I am 100% sure that had Ron Paul been polling 20% in NH, MSM would still ignore him. Just use your common sense how MSM allow all the candidates including Huckabee to explain their stupid positions on important issues. Moreover, they rarely get interrupted or bullied. On the other hand, Ron Paul, whatever coverages he gets, is often asked stupid questions like "Would you support Guliani?" or "When you would consider dropping out?" MSM does not want Ron Paul to get elected. PERIOD. As for Poll numbers, understand that much of the polling data is based on the "likely Republican voters" which means voters who voted in primaries in 2004. That year saw one of the lowest primary turnout and those who turned out were die-hard Bush fans especially evangelicals. they are more likely to vote for neo-cons like Guliani or Huckabee than Ron Paul anyway. Even those kind of voters are being won over steadily and actually they are minority but because others chose to stay at home and thats why their votes had more impact. You also need to understand that NH has an open primary and I assume that the polls don't include Independents or those who switched to Republican party recently or apathetic Republican who didn't vote in the last primary. Half of America's states have open primaries. I am sure that in coming weeks the single-digits are going to get converted to double digits but the real support is huge and number of actual votes for Ron Paul in actual primaries will shock everyone.
A typical Ron Paul supporter believes in Ron Paul's message and knows that Ron Paul is the most honest and sincere politician in the world. A typical Ron Paul supporter would support and do things for the campaign in every way possible and he would help the campaign in every way possible. I feel sorry that you don't seem to be part of that category. I hope I am wrong about you.
Tax hike Mike
Hikeabee was getting serious MSM attention when polling at 1%. I'm not sure what his appeal is, but when Brownback dropped out, all the religious conservatives were told to coalesce around Hikeabee because Rudy is pro-choice, Romney's a Mormon, McCain's a flip-flopper ('00 McCain bares little resemblance to '07 McCain,) and Thompson can't stay awake long enough to campaign. Hikeabee was a governor and the MSM knows that 4 of the last 5 presidents were governors. That's about as complex a trend as they can follow. The religious conservatives want to impose their values on us, which is why they won't back Ron Paul. The irony is, Jesus said let you without sin cast the first stone. That seems Libertarian to me, not at all in line with the ideology of the right wing.
This was never a one man war
the message is radical! this is a revolution! it doesn't matter how many people hear these ideas if you and I are not out there speaking and explaining and answering questions. Huckabee's campaign and ideas don't require critical thinking and or reasoning. It is so much empty rhetoric. People actually have to understand what the real problems are and they don't and so Paul's ideas are foreign to them. And there is not a massive campaign against Huckabee that calls him "kook" or "racist" or "dangerous." Do you get it? Not to mention, that by now surely you understand why he is so low in the polls, surely you know all the reasons why his poll numbers do not reflect the enormity of our grass roots efforts. The whole, "I'm not giving any more money until this or that," is kinda dumb and negative. Either you support him or not. Just imagine: "Give me Liberty or Give me Death...well, only if a bunch more people start saying it too...otherwise, I'll take death. Come on.
Talk radio
On Des Moines radio, WHO, I have heard twice, some talk show devoted entirely to Huckabee. The talk show commentator appeared to be a one man campaigner for Huckabee and of course had Huckabee supporters calling in.
I'm sorry I don't have the name of the show as it held no interest to me other than the fact that WHO reports having 7000 listeners. Plus I was listening in my car and can't pick up the station in my home.