So tonight I quit

when we have won. Most people have a natural resistance to being taught anything they did not already want to know. But the ideas we plant along the way have a tendency to germinate at some point in the future.

I have seen people go from completely opposed to libertarian/conservative ideas, to accepting some if not all of them. Why? Because of something that happened in their own lives that made your words, from years ago, suddenly ring true. That's when the seeds sprout. If a person accepts one part of the libertarian philosophy, they will generally be open to the rest.

But never quit, because you never know which seeds will take root with whom, nor when it will happen.

Dear RPR:

I hope you didn't mean it when you said you quit. I hope you meant that you are quitting with your son only. You can't make him see the truth until he's ready to do so, when he is personally affected in some way. For your sake and the sake of all of us, I hope you will continue to do everything you can to fight all of the travesties going on today. As I'm sure you know, we need all the help we can get. I can certainly understand feeling hurt, discouraged and mad. I don't blame you. I think we all feel the same way at times. After I think about it, it simply gives me resolve to continue to fight even harder for "the cause". Please don't give up. We need you as well as all other patriots who're willing to continue the fight. Take care, don't give up.

maybe another young person will. I certainly didn't learn about RP from my Mom or any other family member. I discovered RP from a guy standing alone on the side of the road with a cardboard box that said, "RonPaul08".

so I take a break from rEVOLution and get a second wind then I come back with even more determination and belief freedom WILL prevail.

I am sure that someone has already mentioned to you Ben Franklin and his famous argument with his son who was a Tory. They never reconciled, Franklin choose liberty and his son moved to England to lead a life of obscurity.

P.S. Kids can be ignorant, I remember telling my step dad that gold would never go over $400.00 years ago. He was a gold and silver bug and would take me to seminars on investing and since gold had dropped from highs of $840.00 down to under $300.00 and stayed their most of my adult life up to that point I thought I knew what was happening. I didn't know what fiat currency was he did.

I rebelled against my dad once, I used to regret the fact that I did-- cause it changed my life path forever. Things happen for a reason and it will come to him in due time or it has already.

My father was a professional soccer player. He was hired by a team in Italy just before coming to this country. He had two choices to make, and personally I admire the one he chose. His choices were 1) join the professional team and work tirelessly in the field of professional sports where you either make it or you don't, or 2) come to America where anything was possible and you would be free.

My dad chose #2. It's good to be free. It was in this country where he worked tirelessly enjoying the beauty of smaller government, getting an education, meeting my mom, and being dragged off to Vietnam, then marrying mom and having a family.

As I was growing up, there was always a soccer ball at my feet. I shouldn't say always because growing up in the northeast and in America most of your friends played baseball, or football, or hockey. So although, I had that ball at my feet I also enjoyed playing the other sports with my neighborhood friends-- you know stick ball pretending your Rickey Henderson or Don Mattingly.

Anyways, as I started to approach high school, I had my dad chirping in my ear. "Son, you should start focusing on one sport so you can excel in it," he said. Continuing, "you should choose soccer," he said. "The World Cup is coming to the United States, and by 1994 you could play for USA or even Italy (if I was good enough to play for Italy)!"

So what did I do? I chose to play american football in high school. I could have easily continued to play soccer and no doubt about it play for the US. Complete rebellion. Rebellion and I wanted attention from some of the female student body who followed football more than soccer.

Was it a mistake? Of course not, everything will eventually lead you to the truth. Sure, I believe I could of been playing World Cup Soccer at the time, I inherited 50% of his DNA. Today, I do play professional soccer in a recreational competitive adult men's league :) and I change the world by giving people insight to the ideas and gifts of freedom and manual medicine.

He has already found the way. Just sit back and watch. Don't take it personally that the one authority figure he's bucked is you. Have gratitude for that he is bucking authority.

Give thanks for that you have already brought freedom to this country. Watch it in your son.

Send them this link so they can learn more! http://trueworldhistory.info/
The ''Money Masters" vid is quite good!

Is it more that Anything the folks suggest isn't cool so they'll bail? You have to sell it more hip & tell them that a piece of history being made right befoer their eyes. And they are going to be a part of it. And it'll be on record to be in the history books! I talked a few musicians into going there even though they've never been before. We must get this moving 60's-style. I like to learn from those that came before me & they kicked ass & helped end the Vietnam Conflict.

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Funny I just got finished talking to two divers that I haven't seen in over 4 months. These guys spent 4 months off with no work and started researching all the stuff I was talking about. They came up to me last night and We talked about the economy, buying silver, & stocking up. I had a real pleasant conversation especially since I finally have people that know what I know. Your son will come around though when He loses everything but at least it will happen.

some people like to live in their own little world and other people like to live in their own little world. a friend of mine once asked me why I got so worked up over stuff like this, said the stress wasnt healthy and the obsession just breeds unhappiness. he was right. but what he didnt understand is that some of us feel that our thoughts change our world in here, and some of us feel our thoughts change our world out there. everyone has a unique perspective on reality based upon their experiences.

You won't always feel this way, because in your heart you know the truth. And even your own son should not be coerced into our philosophy (Even though it is the correct one!)

It may be frustrating, but eventually when your son is paying lots of taxes, seeing his future mortgaged and losing more liberties, he will come around to your views.

Frankly I was amazed that Dr. Paul chose to come to this very liberal area of the state/country.

But the Campaign for Liberty must be strong enough here to justify his trip.

The woman heading the Campaign here (Katja Delavar) is originally from Iran and she gave a great speech about opressive governments.

She really can see the similarities (more so than we from the USA can) because she grew up under such opression. We are very lucky to have her working so hard here.

There is lots of room for hope as the C4L is growing and the Republican Party had better take note and embrace us or it's going to be a long dry spell.

But sometimes I feel that the worse things get, the better it is for us liberty fighters because it will force public complacency to turn into a desire for action.

And the Campaign for Liberty will be there ready to accept all new supporters!

And don't forget, Dr. Paul had been fighting this lonely fight for 30 years before anyone really noticed!

NOOO not that!!!

Find a commonality ;-)

Find a young group of Master Mind / Entreprenuer's who are already into Ron Paul. Guys that are starting up small businesses - brainstorming together.

If your son can make money with RP folks he will naturally come on board.

RP pushes free-markets -- The only profit driver in a Free-Market is entre- and intra-preneurialism.

Think about it :-)

Octobox

I'm sorry, but that doesn't exactly sound like the freedom and liberty we're fighting for. If the kid doesn't want to go see Ron Paul, why would you try to make him?

By the sounds of it he is an adult, and he has every right to make his own decisions. You've done your best to try to talk to him about Ron Paul and the liberty movement, but you can't force these things upon people, that just goes against our entire value system. You have to let him make up his own mind. It may very well be that the reason he won't listen and won't go is because you've told/asked him too.

It really doesn't matter that you're his mother, he is an adult and doesn't have to listen to you (harsh, I know, but its the truth). The best thing you can do as a mother is be loving regardless, and support him in his endeavors and share advice from your life experience wherever possible.

I am his mom.

It can be enormously frustrating to offer good suggestions to people and they are not ready to listen. Stop trying to get wool from a cow, and take the milk instead. Maybe in the meantime, you might want to talk to other, more receptive people in your family, your community and your workplace.

Your son might be misunderstanding your efforts to enlighten him as an attempt to force your ideas upon him. This is guaranteed to foster resistance in anyone, especially a family member. Why not try to LISTEN to him, find out why he believes as he does, see if you have common ground, and show him that maybe Ron Paul and the freedom movement may offer suggestions and opportunities that he may be overlooking.

Whatever happens, I hope that you and your son improve your communication.

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

I remember when England was getting bombed daily by nazi's and how the just QUIT!

I remember when I had no money to feed my 6 kids at one point and I just QUIT trying to feed them (not really).

I remember when Ron Paul had few people at a campaign rally in the first few days of the campaign stating (He said So) and he just QUIT!

Ron Paul has be speaking out against tryanny for 20+ Years and He also Just QUIT!

Storing guns, ammo, food, ...
Talking to your son about Fema death Camps.

If you told me that stuff I'd think you were "excentric" or a loon.

Not that there is anything wrong with being a loon. But, really chill out.
I'm just in it for the Liberty.

I go around with a smile on my face and advantagely someone ask why am I so happy. And I say that finally the tide is changing. The government is beginning to fear the people. (Audit the Fed, Tea Parties, Decline in D & R with increase in Independents) I only speak to those that ask. I have found that complete strangers are more open to the message than those we known like family, friends, and etc......

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"
GANDHI

Stop the crying and begging. You need to change your approach. The statist loons out there cling to government omniscience like it's a religion. It takes a long time to turn them because you have to do it with subtlety- one observation, one quip, one esmall example at a time.

Don't give up so easy. Victory is 90% perserverance.

Also, do not "fight for other's freedom". That is arrogant, pretentious, and self-righteous. Fight for FREEDOM itself. The "other's" will eventually see the light.

Its the same reason that my girlfriend doesn't listen. I love her dearly but she is stubbornly empirical about the world around her.

If something bad hasn't happened to her personally - it isn't real. Far from believing the TV News, she thinks the reporters are full of it. "Recession? What recession? The shops are full of people. Everyone is spending like crazy. Pffft."

I'm guessing that your son has a good job and a decent income. Either that or he's a student having fun in college. Am I right?

To be really blunt, things will have to get many orders of magnitude worse before the average person in the street starts to take politics seriously.

I'm not pinning my hopes on the average person!

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

Don't quit, just move on to the next person. You will convince others, and your son will come around.

Also if you can't get him to listen to Ron Paul then you have to become Ron Paul in that you educate him on these topics.

but I'm the college son with the sheeple parents.

If you son is in Seattle, he is in a hotbed of liberal fanatics. The papers are filled with propaganda, the local and state governments are pretty much communist. It will take time and patience for him to come around to the truth. It sounds like he was raised right, and given time, kids do eventually find their way back.

Hang in there!

Pat

BOHICA!!

of the family, just a member from every family.

Naton

Everybody needs this Freedom and Liberty movement but it will only be accepted by those of us who want it and not all that need it.

Carry on.